Wikipedia-l October 2005

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Re: Non-admin rollback?
by Derek Ross 19 Oct '05

19 Oct '05

Phroziac said: >Why isn't a rollback user group enabled on Wikipedia, and a >[[Wikipedia:Requests for rollback]] page made, so that we can allow >non-admins to get rollback access, as long as they aren't idiots? > If they're not idiots, we should be giving them full admin rights, not just rollback. Cheers Derek --------------------------------- Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos

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Non-admin rollback?
by Phroziac 19 Oct '05

19 Oct '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Why isn't a rollback user group enabled on Wikipedia, and a [[Wikipedia:Requests for rollback]] page made, so that we can allow non-admins to get rollback access, as long as they aren't idiots? It looks like it would just require this line in the settings to me... $wgGroupPermissions['rollback']['rollback'] = true; We get a *lot* of vandalism. We should be doing everything we can to help users fight the vandals off. - -- Phroziac Encrypted Email Preferred OpenPGP key ID: 0x8DA573EA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDVZ7JqkDk742lc+oRAkWJAJ4h7TljMeVwwKt3Z8Jqh6nBabDigACfR2OA w/2P1/IwC1P8vyl6W//1Z20= =IgJl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Standalone wikipedia
by Magnus Manske 18 Oct '05

18 Oct '05

I have created a standalone Wikipedia which could become the foundation af a DVD release or a desktop/intranet version of Wikipedia, currently Windows only (but should be easy to adapt to Linux/Mac). I don't have anywhere to put a DVD image, so you'll have to bake your own. All you need is my software (based on tinyweg and sqlite, running a real, unpatched MediaWiki) [1] (ca. 6MB) and a XML dump of wikipedia (I recommend [2], ca. 762 MB). Download both, uncompress the software (no need to uncompress the XML file!), and follow the instructions in the README file. Some issues: * The creation of the package takes time (think "over night") and disk space (~2.5GB) * Page rendering is a little slow, but bearable, roughly depending on the number of links on a page * No images * It doesn't run directly from DVD, as tinyweb insists on writing log files; you'll have to keep the whole thing on hard disk Things that don't work but which should be easy to do (for someone with time on their hands) * Interwiki links are renderd as "red links" (should be fixable in LocalSettings.php) * Search doesn't work (should be fixable by patching MediaWiki, at least for title search) Technical note: The conversion software (GPL, but source not yet included - too messy) generates a sqlite database with everything BUT the page texts. These are copied into a single large text file, and the database additionally stores the position of the respective text. That turns out to be the fastest way to query the database. I tried reading from a compressed text file, but the performance was horrible as there's no way to directly seek a position in a compressed file. Magnus [1] http://magnusmanske.de/wikipedia/standalonewiki.zip [2] http://download.wikipedia.org/wikipedia/en/20050924_pages_public.xml.bz2

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Wikimania 2006 - host city, contest part two - change in schedule
by Delphine Ménard 17 Oct '05

17 Oct '05

(warning, cross post to many lists, thank you for not replying to all - thank you for forwarding to the relevant lists) Boston (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2006/Boston) and Toronto (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2006/Toronto) have been shortlisted to host the 2006 edition of Wikimania. Wikimania 2006 will be the second international Wikimedia conference and will gather members of the Wikimedia community acorss projects as well as participants and speakers from different horizons to talk about wikis and more. An overview of the 2005 edition can be found at http://wikimania.wikimedia.org. Contrarily to what was announced on the Wikimania page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2006), and due to tight schedules of the jury from 3 corners of the planet, the jury might not be able to meet and give its answer on the 15th october as was planned. This will only be delayed a day or two, please stay tuned for an update. In the meantime, participants and others are free to ask/answer questions on the talk pages of the Boston (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimania_2006/Boston) and Toronto (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimania_2006/Toronto) bid. Best, Delphine -- ~notafish

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Fwd: [F/OSS-Community] Stockholm Challenge Award 2006
by Fred Bauder 17 Oct '05

17 Oct '05

Begin forwarded message: > From: Yong Liu <classicalliberalism(a)gmail.com> > Date: October 17, 2005 7:25:47 AM MDT > To: community(a)opensource.mit.edu > Subject: [F/OSS-Community] Stockholm Challenge Award 2006 > Reply-To: liuyongaijiujiu(a)gmail.com > > > *Please circulate widely and apologies for cross-posting* > > I hope this will be of interest to you.If you have questions or > comments, please contact Earl Mardle at > earl.mardle(a)stockholmchallenge.se or Ulla Skidén at > ulla.skiden(a)stockholmchallenge.se. > > Best, > > Yong Liu > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > The Stockholm Challenge Award 2006 is open for entries > > THE STOCKHOLM CHALLENGE AWARD 2006 invites excellent ICT projects > from all over the world to compete for the prestigious Challenge > trophies. The Challenge is searching for the best initiatives that > accelerate the use of information technology for the social and > economic benefit of citizens and communities. The objective is to > help local entrepreneurs, who work to close the digital divide, by > bringing in research communities, development organisations and > strong corporate initiatives. > > THE AWARDS WILL BE HANDED OUT IN SIX CATEGORIES in the City Hall - > on May 11, 2006. Special focus will be on projects in countries and > regions with the greatest needs. There will also be an > international Challenge conference in Stockholm on issues related > to the role of ICTs in global development work. > > THE AWARD IS OPEN FOR ENTRIES until December 31st 2005. The > application form is easily accessible on the home page. > > The Stockholm Challenge is headquartered at the IT University - a > joint initiative by KTH (The Royal Institute of Technology) and > Stockholm University . It is managed by a consortium that also > includes the City of Stockholm, Ericsson and Sida, the Swedish > International Development Cooperation Agency. > > For more information, please contact: > Project Manager > Ulla Skidén > ulla.skiden(a)stockholmchallenge.se > Telephone: + 46 8 7904469 > Cell: +46 70 678 72 82 > > www.stockholmchallenge.se > > > Rules for participation in the Stockholm Challenge Award 2006 > > These are the basic rules for the participation in the Stockholm > Challenge Award. All competing projects must: > > 1. Include ICT > Illustrate how ICT is used to create new or better traditional > services and/or products, which are beneficial for human and social > development. > > 2. Be implemented > All competing projects must be up and running. They should be > implemented/piloted since no less than three months. The Stockholm > Challenge Award does not accept drafted concepts and ideas only. > The jury will only evaluate and compare projects that can show > measurable outcomes and impact. > > 3. Be linked to and/or supported by an established private or > public organisation. > > 4. Be verifiable, i.e. able to present credible references. > > 5. Be free from religious, political or other personal beliefs. > > To be noted: > > Projects that have won one of the Challenge categories in previous > years cannot enter the competition again. > > All applications must be in English > > Evaluation criteria > > Innovation, creativity and the convergence of ICT with many > different disciplines are some of the qualities that are looked for > in the competing projects. The jury, a group of international > senior experts, base their evaluation on the following criteria, > most of which all Challenge projects should meet: > > Innovation > Competing projects should illustrate new and innovative ways of > using ICT to improve the living and economical conditions > especially of those with great needs. > > Convergence > The addition of ICT as a tool to traditional development work can > improve and widen the scope of the project impact. Projects should > show successful convergences of different disciplines and sectors. > > Inclusion > It is favourable for the competing projects to show that they bring > individuals, groups and local organisations into larger communities > – national and global - such as medical, government, educational > and cultural networks, as well business environments. > > Equal Opportunity > It is important that the initiatives counteract inequality related > to the likes of gender, origin, age, physical and/or mental > disabilities. > > Sustainability > An important factor is sustainability. Not only economic > sustainability, i.e. how long the project will last and bring > benefits to its users. Sustainability also includes the > contribution of the project to a sustainable society and > environment at large. > > Opportunities > > To enter a project in the Stockholm Challenge Award is not only to > participate in a prestigious international ICT competition - it is > also a way to join networks of some of the best ICT entrepreneurs > and pioneers in the world. Testimonials from many of the projects, > which have competed in their respective categories over the years, > say that it is the inspiration, the new ideas, contacts and > partners that are the greatest rewards for a Challenger. > > The Stockholm Challenge represents excellent marketing through the > exposure to media, and to private and public organizations that are > involved in ICT work and implementations. It gives promotional > opportunities for entrepreneurs, universities, cities, cities and > regions. The Stockholm Challenge Final Events include a Best > Practice Exhibition and a Conference. It is a meeting place for > some the world's most successful IT entrepreneurs. > > Winners and finalists of the Stockholm Challenge are global role > models for cities, companies, organisations, schools and others who > are involved in adapting and spreading the use of ICT. >

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Help needed for helpdesk-l
by Cormac Lawler 16 Oct '05

16 Oct '05

Hi, Since the helpdesk-l address was made more instantly visible, there has been a surge of questions to the list - of a wide range of queries/problems/issues. Your help would be appreciated. You can subscribe at http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/helpdesk-l Thanks, Cormac / Cormaggio

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http://nap.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paggena_prencepale
by Sabine Cretella 16 Oct '05

16 Oct '05

I just had a look at the main page - in this moment it shows 100 pages :-) of course many of them are still stubs, but well, things are going ahead :-) Ho appena dato uno sguardo alla pagina principale - in questo momento mi mostra 100 pagine :-) naturalmente molti sono ancora stub, ma stiamo andando :-) (per chi non lo sapesse - in particolare nel gruppo Napulitano: uno stub è un articolo minimo che serve per iniziare qualcosa e per animare altri a contribuire - chi volesse la newsletter in napoletano - cioè chi non la riceve ancora: per piacere fatemi sapere con un messaggio privato) (for those of you who do not receive the newsletter in Neapolitan language and would like to receive it, please let me know sending a private message). Ciao, Sabine ___________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger: chiamate gratuite in tutto il mondo http://it.messenger.yahoo.com

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requests for new languages/Lombard
by "Jørgen G. Bosoni" 15 Oct '05

15 Oct '05

Cf. the discussion at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Requests_for_new_languages/Lombard#… I would like to ask an Administrator to set up a test Wikipedia for Lombard. Best regards, JørgenGB

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Gibraltar
by A Gibraltarian 15 Oct '05

15 Oct '05

Hello, I would like to bring to your attention a situation where there are clear violations of the principles of WP, and abuse of power by some sysops. There are some members (mainly Spanish) who have embarked upon a campaign of vandalism on the Spanish version of the Gibraltar article. They are using this article to spread Spanish anti-Gibraltar propaganda, lies, and insults to the people of Gibraltar. Even when posts are true, they are as far from NPOV as they can get. Gibraltarians have been accused variously of being smugglers, money launderers, we all live from illegal and/or illicit activity, we ignore EU law, we have stolen land from Spain (and territorial waters, and airspace), the British troops have even been accused of ethnic cleansing! WP is not a discussion forum, certainly less an anti-Gibraltar forum. If this is what these people want they should find another forum for it. When I have edited text I have been accused of vandalism simply because I do not share the Spanish vision (or delusion). They act as if they had formed a tribe or bully group, and between them seem to think that they somehow own the article and only those editions that match their views are allowed. As if this wasnt enough 3 sysops in particular, Dodo, Ecemaml, & Sanbec are abusing their position and blocking my access. Their attitude and behaviour is totally unacceptable. I request help from anyone able to, as serious violations of WP policy are being committed by them. I request that these people be told that they do not have the right to own WP articles, nor unjustifiably block a user just because he shares differing views to you. No doubt they will invent some excuse to justify their actions, but there is no justification. I thank you for your help. A Gibraltarian _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

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Re: Ant: [Wikipedia-l] Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia - a policy question?
by elephantus 13 Oct '05

13 Oct '05

> In the future sh.wiki hopes to implement an automatic converter > between Cyrillic, Latin, Ijekavski, and Ekavski, so these > stylistic/dialect/variety issues won't be a problem anymore. > > Now, with such conversion, you wouldn't have to worry about edit wars > over what norm is used, because no matter what norm it is written in, > it is displayed in the chosen norm (possibly based on IP range-- users > in Croatia and Bosnia get Ijekavian, users in Serbia get Ekavian; > users in Croatia, Bosnia, and Montenegro get Latin alphabet, users in > Serbia get Cyrillic, but of course you can change these preferences). > > Mark Differences between standard Serbian and Croatian are larger than just differences of ekavian/ijekavian. A text in Serbian converted to ijekavian feels to us just a little less Serbian (somewhat Bosnian) than the original, it's not somehow magically transformed into Croatian. And please, don't throw NPOV phrases at me, because how on earth are you going to NPOV-ize loads of technical, scientific and everyday vocabulary, syntax etc.? Do you plan to write slashes between variants? Write the same sentence twice? Believe me, all of this has been tried before, immense force, threats, everything was applied and the end result was the same – zero. Elephantus (from Croatian Wikipedia) -- Odaberite XXLadsl i iskoristite 60 dana neograničenog surfanja za samo 1 kn! Uz svaki XXLadsl poklanjamo Iskonov glazbeni CD. http://www.iskon.biz/xxladsl

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