(This mail goes to wikipedia-l and foundation-l just as an announce. I
assume that we should talk at mediawiki-l mailing list.)
We are at the end of the first phase. Brane Jelisavcic finalized
Zhengzhu's work. It is working now on
http://conversion.vikimedija.org/ (using MediaWiki 1.5rc4). If anyone
has some questions about that, please, ask it here because Brane reads
this list.
We want to implement this extension on Serbian Wikipedia. What should
we do for that? (I.e., is it enough to ask here, or we should ask for
it somewhere else?)
After the implementation of this part, we would start to work on the
next phase (read-write access to all variants).
Are there any photo / image websites (similar to flickr.com) that
allow the user to manipulate (i.e. edit) the uploaded images,
similar to running Gimp or Photoshop but as a web application?
I was thinking about this functionality for Wikimedia Commons, so
I'm seeking some inspirational examples to look at. Are there any?
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Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se
I got a note on my talk page, and I just answered it. Here's what I said.
(Angela, if you would like me in the pool for UK interviews, feel free
to send 'em my email and I might even send you my mobile number -
though I almost never answer it by day and it goes to message.)
- d.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com>
Date: Oct 11, 2005 11:36 PM
Subject: Wikipedia interview
To: rmullins(a)tampatrib.com
Hi Richard - I got your note on my talk page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:David_Gerard&diff=25298…
Assuming this was actually you ;-) then I'd be most happy to do an interview :-)
Time for a phone or instant-message interview is a tricky one if
you're in a hurry, but I can do email very conveniently.
I see you left a pile of notes on article talk pages wanting to talk
to people who wrote the articles - possibly a quicker way would be to
look through the history (which lists all revisions to an article
ever, though you may have to go back several pages through busy ones
;-) and then put notes on their talk pages, if they're still around.
And now, to answer your questions:
"I'd love to hear what interested you about Wikipedia."
I first started using it in December 2003. I'd heard about it, seen it
come up in Google searches sometimes and had mild curiosity about it.
Then my wife said to have a look at it ... and I started editing. (I
just asked her and she says I drew her into it! She's
[[User:Redcountess]])
"I'd love to know how often you work on entries and what your
particular area of interest is."
I've edited *all manner* of things. I've been working heavily on
Scientology-related articles of late - I am apparently what passes for
an expert (I have a website at http://www.suburbia.net/~fun/scn/ ) and
wrote about half the article on [[Xenu]] - the one that's quoted
directly in just about EVERY article on Tom Cruise in the past few
months. Which I'm very pleased by! (And we have a new one, [[Space
opera in Scientology doctrine]], which is even better.) I also write
about Australian indie rock bands (another specialist area of mine),
computer and technical topics, anything else I notice needs an article
...
I also use Wikipedia as a reference, particularly in technical or
computer areas - it's actually a reliable encyclopedia in these areas
in my experience. And I'll edit anything that needs a bit of a
copyedit or clearer writing. It's very nice being able to fix simple
errors.
"Also, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the accuracy of the system
and what you think of errors added to the entries."
People adding errors to "test" the system are a pain in the backside.
See [[Wikipedia:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point]].
Anyone can do it, and anyone can take a dump in public; it doesn't
make it a good or decent idea.
As for the general accuracy ... in technical areas, it's good enough
to actually use. I understand it's that good in mathematics. I'm sure
there are other areas I don't know of where it's that good. I
understand we're the world's best Pokemon resource ;-) There are many
areas we don't cover as well as we'd like to, but we're trying to be
aware of this.
There's always going to be a certain percentage of articles that are
great, some that are okay and some that are very sketchy and have
"Under Construction" signs on them. The encyclopedia's expanding all
the time, so the numbers for each of these percentages will always
increase. We're working on article rating systems to try to make it
easier for people to find the good stuff without hampering the works
in progress or the process of making them.
If you have other questions, please do email me. If you really want to
do a phoner, my phone number is +44 xxxx xxx xxx - time here is
presently BST, which is GMT +1. If my phone goes to message, please
leave a message!
- thanks, David.
>I don't know how much different the languages/dialects are. I do know
>that from both sides people are moving towards separate languages. If
>we consider languages to be variations with at least a given amount of
>difference, they are indeed dialects of the same language. But if we
>consider languages to be dialects with a special formal status,
>they're different languages.
For an illustration of the differences between the standard
Serbian and Croatian, I'd like to use an economic comparison: If
I were buying a paper encyclopedia with the same content, but, say,
translated into both Serbian Latin and Croatian, I'd be willing
to pay probably around 50% more for the Croatian translation, simply
because it's easier to use for me, it's more comfortable etc.
If the encyclopedia were in Serbian Cyrillic it would be almost
worthless to me, except as a curiosity (I can read Cyrillic, albeit
slower). And I was born before the downfall of Yugoslavia and have
read (and own) many books in Serbian. The younger generations would
probably be even more uncomfortable reading Serbian.
Elephantus (from the Croatian Wikipedia)
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> I don't want to force anything on anyone, but I reallythink that everybody would be better off
here
> with a single WP whereall standards is converted and/or accepted.MarkOn
I read all of your e-mails. I thought about this carefully, it's
not a whim or anything.
On the matter of unity vs. separateness:
Bitter (and sometimes bloody) experience has shown us that any
gains made by having a larger number of speakers/writers are
more than offset by the energy wasted in petty bickering and/or
ill-will generated by the neccessary compromises on many things.
Normally, I wouldn't have anything against ill-informed people
trying this out one more time for themselves and banging
their head against a wall, but in this case I'm interested
in the well-being and progress of Croatian Wikipedia.
I tried to put a banner on the Main Page pointing the
way to the three other Wikipedias after several people asked
me why the Croatian Wikipedia is named "Serbocroatian". You, Dejvid
and Pokrajac removed this without a word of explanation, even
calling it "vandalism". Now you may or may not be aware of this,
but many people from the former Yugoslavia, when they see a
project (organization, institution) having a "Serbocroatian"
section automatically assume that people there haven't yet switched
to the three separate languages and simply turn around and walk away.
This is what I'd like to avoid.
Elephantus (from the Croatian Wikipedia)
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Hello;
I post it here, though it is not restricted to wikipedia. But many read
this list, so that might do.
Freenode is changing is channel naming policy.
The channel names beforehand #xx.wikipedia will be changed in #wikipedia-xx
Some people already reported that some of these channels (like the
spanish one) were already registered by unknown people... or people who
have left the projects.
If this is the case of your language channel, please do together agree
on a new owner, then please contact Fennec to make the change :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fennec
Fennec is the contact for freenode.
Thanks
Anthere
Cross-posted to wikitech-l and wikipedia-l because I thought there might
be wider interest. People reading via Gmane might see a duplicate.
The master database server for the Korean Wikipedia has now been moved
to our cluster in Korea. The switch went quite well, with no downtime
and only half an hour of read-only time, most of that due to me mucking
around with the configuration and fixing bugs. All Apache processing for
that wiki is now done in Korea, including serving images. Only commons
images are drawn from Florida.
This is a pilot for full utilisation of the Yahoo cluster, eventually
we'll move ja and the other East Asian wikis there. For now, the Koreans
have a big cluster all to themselves, so they should expect to get pages
back faster than you can blink at any time of the day or night. A life
of sheer bliss that the rest of us can only dream of :)
-- Tim Starling
Hi everybody,
I would like to announce that just in the last couple days the
Serbocroatian Wikipedia crossed the 1000-article mark.
It is fast growing now -- already it is nearly 1/4 the size of the
Bosnian WP, 1/10 the size of the Croatian WP, and 1/15 the size of the
Serbian WP.
It is my hope that at some point in the future, probably when sh.wiki
reaches a bigger number of articles, that these three Wikipedias can,
by a democratic vote, unite and all use sh.wiki together although it
will take a lot of work to get there.
One reason for the fast growth is that most articles are not new
material, but rather are based on the existing articles from the
Bosnian, Croatian, and Serbian WPs. This means that there are nearly
30.000 articles to draw from, although there is a certain degree of
overlap.
Cheers
Mark
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Hello folks,
I have just submitted a patch to the problem, that sometimes a user is
blocked longer than is intended. The problem is described as following and
is submitted as Bug 856 in Bugzillar:
If a user is blocked, say for 2 hours. And he tries to make some edit
though. Then the IP he uses would be also blocked for the timespan. If he
tries to make some edit a second time, then his IP would be blocked for
another day, exceeding the priviosly defined 2 hours.
The patch I submitted should fix this bug. The auto-block should never
exceed the user-block in any case.
Thanks
Ting
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