On Sunday 28 July 2002 03:00 am, The Cunctator wrote:
> What are the articles this person has been changing?
For 66.108.155.126:
20:08 Jul 27, 2002 Computer
20:07 Jul 27, 2002 Exploit
20:07 Jul 27, 2002 AOL
20:05 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
20:05 Jul 27, 2002 Leet
20:03 Jul 27, 2002 Root
20:02 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
19:59 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
19:58 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
19:54 Jul 27, 2002 Principle of least astonishment
19:54 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
19:52 Jul 27, 2002 Trance music
19:51 Jul 27, 2002 Trance music
For 208.24.115.6:
20:20 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
For 141.157.232.26:
20:19 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
Most of these were complete replacements with discoherent statements.
Such as "TAP IS THE ABSOLUTE DEFINITION OF THE NOUN HACKER" for Hacker.
For the specifics follow http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Special:Ipblocklist
and look at the contribs.
--mav
Dear all,
Most of you would be aware of some of the discussions that have occurred
around Wikipedia in the Norwegian languages. Since the last round of
discussions on this list, there has been a lot of internal debate, as
well as what seems to be a fairly widely accepted agreement following
voting.
This e-mail intends to, after a brief recap on Norwegian language and
wikipedia issues, take those interested through the latest development
and will stake out the road ahead. It is also intended to inform the
international community about the current agreement on no.wikipedia, so
as to prevent misunderstandings in the future.
Finally, we will mention an unfortunate reaction to the vote by a small
number of users at the Norwegian Bokmål/Riksmål (no:) wikipedia who want
to disregard the result of the voting and are planning to create a
_third_ Norwegian wikipedia with the sole mission of mixing the contents
of the two current Norwegian versions.
== A short language history of Norway ==
Spoken Norwegian ("norsk") (ISO 639-2 alpha-2 code "no") is in a fairly
unique situation compared to most other languages of the world in that
it has two widely accepted written standards, Bokmål (ISO 639-2 alpha-2
code "nb") and Nynorsk (ISO 639-2 alpha-2 code "nn"). By national
legislation they are both regarded as official written forms of
Norwegian. In addition, many people still make a distinction between
Bokmål and its precursor which still is in use, Riksmål.
Briefly speaking, Bokmål and Riksmål are descendants of the Danish
written language. Until the 1800s, Danish was the only widely used
written language in Norway as a result of four centuries of union with
Denmark. With increasing independence came a wish to norwegianise the
Danish standard, with Knud Knudsen at the forefront for changing parts
of the vocabulary and orthographics. Thus, Riksmål, and later Bokmål,
resulted. These forms together are today probably used by about 90% of
Norway's population, or somewhere around 3,500,000 people.
Parallel to this development, a new written standard was created by Ivar
Aasen. He travelled extensively throughout Norway, and based his new
language, landsmål, on the grammar and vocabulary of dialect samples
from around the country. This was later renamed Nynorsk. Modern Nynorsk
differs significantly from modern Bokmål, and may be linguistically
looked upon as as different (or as similar if you like) as Swedish is to
Danish. For English or Dutch/German speakers, the differences may be
likened to those between (Lowland) Scots and English or Low German and
Dutch. Today it is estimated that about 500,000-600,000 people have
Nynorsk as their first written language.
More information about the Norwegian language history can be found in
English, German, French, Spanish or Portuguese on the website of the
Norwegian Language Council:
http://www.sprakrad.no/templates/Page.aspx?id=653
== A short history of Wikipedia in Norwegian ==
The first Norwegian wikipedia started 26 November 2001 on the subdomain
no.wikipedia.org. As most wikipedias, its contributor and article count
started really picking up around the end of 2003. At the time, it
accepted all written standards of Norwegian, although the amount of
Nynorsk was minimal. There were already several debates about the
feasibilty and appropriateness of keeping the two languages united on
one Wikipedia. On 31 July 2004 a Wikipedia for Nynorsk was created.
The creation of nn:, however, split the community at no: wikipedia. Many
felt that given that Nynorsk now had its own wikipedia, no: should
become a Bokmål/Riksmål Wikipedia only. Others disapproved and claimed
that there was no need to change and that it should continue its
language policy of accepting all and keep its interwiki link name of
"Norsk".
Nynorsk Wikipedia soon proved a success, as it within the next few
months gathered several people who had felt uncomfortable in the
(mainly) Bokmål environment at no:. The name displayed in interwiki
links became "Norsk (nynorsk)" (languages are not spelt with upper case
in Norwegian). To date it continues to be one of the fastest growing
wikipedias, with a steady article increase, now at over 6000 articles
and >50 editors with more than 10 edits since arrival.
== Votes ==
The issue of no:'s language policy has come up time and again, and a
vote was held in March ([[:no:Wikipedia:Målform]]) as to which policy to
adapt. Independent of the method of the tally (whether or not to include
new contributors etc.) there was a majority for switching to a
Bokmål/Riksmål only language policy (50% for Bokmål/Riksmål, 43.2% for
Bokmål/Riksmål/Nynorsk/Høgnorsk, and 6.8% for the official variants
Bokmål/Nynorsk only).
Following this result, there is now going to be a vote on which
interwiki link name will most appropriately reflect the current language
policy of no:. The result of this vote will most likely be either "Norsk
(bokmål)" or "Norsk (bokmål/riksmål)".
Understandably, there has also been a debate as to whether the subdomain
should change from "no" to "nb", as this is the correct representation
of Bokmål according to ISO 639-2. However, there is some resentment
towards such a move and currently a general acceptance in letting the
Bokmål wikipedia stay at "no". The alternative some have suggested is a
server-side redirect from "no" to "nb", in the same way that "nb" today
is a server-side redirect to the equivalent page on "no".
== Summary of the problem ==
Unfortunately, a small group of users (who all write Bokmål/Riksmål) are
ignoring the results from the vote, and are claiming they want to
re-establish a wikipedia for all written standards of Norwegian. They
claim they have been in touch with people centrally in Wikimedia
(developers? stewards?) and that they have so far received positive
comments. With this email, we would like to state the fact that there
have been no official decisions about creating a third Norwegian
wikipedia containing both Bokmål and Nynorsk, it is merely an unofficial
initiative from a small group of users which started a sign-on list at
[[:no:Bruker:Norsk_Wikipedia]]. A spontaneous list with signatures
against this activity was immediately created at
[[:no:Wikipedia-diskusjon:Fellesnorsk]]. The process of creating a third
Norwegian wikipedia has not gone through a voting process in any of the
two existing Norwegian wikipedias (no: and nn:) and can not be
considered as a decision by the Norwegian Wikipedia community.
We believe the creation of a third wikipedia under the Wikimedia
foundation would have a serious and unfortunate impact on the existing
wikipedias in Norwegian, no: and nn:, and would undermine Wikipedia's
reputation in Norway. This being said, we are all for extensive co-
operation between the four Scandinavian language wikipedias (including
Swedish and Danish), as evident by the recent creation of
[[:meta:Skanwiki]], the Scandinavian meta-pages, and the use of featured
articles from neighbour wikipedias.
== Conclusion ==
Hopefully, this letter will help people better understand the
complicated language situation of the Norwegian Wikipedia community, so
as to give a background on which discussion can take place on this list
in the future, such as the inevitable debate following a possible
request for a re-establishment of the common (and third!) Norwegian
Wikipedia.
>From the community of no.wikipedia.org and nn.wikipedia.org,
Bjarte Sørensen [[:meta:User:BjarteSorensen]] (Administrator/bureaucrat on nn:)
Lars Alvik [[:no:User:Profoss]] (Administrator/bureaucrat on no:)
Øyvind A. Holm [[:no:User:Sunny256]] (Administrator on no:)
Onar Vikingstad [[:no:User:Vikingstad]] (Administrator on no:)
Jon Harald Søby [[:no:User:Jhs]] (Administrator on no:)
Chris Nyborg [[:no:User:Cnyborg]] (Administrator on no:)
Guttorm Flatabø [[:no:User:Dittaeva]] (Administrator on nn:)
Gunleiv Hadland [[:meta:User:Gunnernett]] (Administrator on nn:)
Jarle Fagerheim [[:nn:User:Jarle]] (Administrator on nn:)
Øyvind Jo Heimdal Eik [[:en:User:Pladask]] (Administrator on nn: and no:)
Kristian André Gallis [[:nn:User:Kristaga]]
Vegard Wærp [[:no:User:Vegardw]]
Nina Aldin Thune [[:no:User:Nina]]
Thor-Rune Hansen [[:no:User:ThorRune]]
Claes Tande [[:no:User:Ctande]]
Arnt-Erik Krokaa [[:no:User:AEK]]
Rune Sattler [[:no:User:Shauni]]
Hey all,
I keep seeing lines in my away log complaining about me being lazy and
not setting IRC cloaks, and about people offering their assistance (in
response to kinder notes of me just being busy). I thought I would
clear the situation up. I am on wikibreak at present for most of my
roles but I am still completely dedicated to being our most active IRC
Group Contact (James is also active, but less so) and so this is not
the issue. The reason why no cloaks are being set at present is
different.
Essentially, James and I are trying to redo our paperwork with
freenode to make sure that we are allowed to set the cloaks we do and
also to add new namespaces by popular request, such as wikiversity/
cloaks. The freenode head of staff is the person responsible for
sorting this paperwork with us and unfortunately she has been
indisposed due to injury for some weeks now. This means that we have
been unable to do what we need to do and as a result cloaks are just
sitting in the request system. However, as soon as things are sorted
out *I will set every cloak (assuming it meets the requirements) in
the system in one fell swoop!*
Please be patient and considerate while these problems are sorted out.
Rest assured there is no laziness involved!
Thanks,
[[m:User:Sean Whitton]]
[[m:IRC Group Contacts|Wikimedia IRC Group Contact]]
>From the mother of all front pages, http://www.wikipedia.org/
if you scroll down and click "other languages", you arrive at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias
Apparently, these tables are updated from s23.org. Some of the
links to the language pages could need to be updated. For example
No. 244 Sichuan Yi has the article [[:w:Yi language]] and there is
no redirect from the link given in this list.
Another list, updated very long ago and only containing the top 50
languages, is given on
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias_by_speakers_per_article
I think the article count of that second list needs to be updated
more frequently, perhaps through s23.org, but the number of
speakers for each language can only be rough estimates anyway and
needs to be updated only very seldom. I have tried to improve
that list by looking at the Wikipedia articles for each language.
The list is included below. Please report to me any obvious
errors, for example where I'm off by a power of magnitude.
I haven't been able to put any numbers on the speakers of Latin,
Classic Chinese, Dutch Lower Saxon, or Simple English. Some
languages have zero speakers in this list, e.g. Novial and Old
Church Slavonic. Is that fair? What numbers do you think should be
used? I think we should use the number of people who can be
expected to *read* Wikipedia (given literacy and computer access)
so Latin should have more than zero, right?
In this table, column 1 is the language code, as used in subdomain
names under wikipedia.org, column 2 and 3 are the printable
language name in English and English Wikipedia page title, as used
in s23.org today, and column 4 is my estimate of the total number
of speakers. This table has 256 entries, just like the "List of
Wikipedias" page on meta.
aa|Afar|Afar language|1400000
ab|Abkhazian|Abkhazian language|200000
af|Afrikaans|Afrikaans language|6000000
ak|Akan|Akan language|9000000
als|Alemannic|Alemannic language|10000000
am|Amharic|Amharic language|27000000
an|Aragonese|Aragonese language|30000
ang|Anglo-Saxon|Anglo-Saxon language|0
ar|Arabic|Arabic language|323000000
arc|Assyrian Neo-Aramaic|Assyrian Neo-Aramaic language|210000
as|Assamese|Assamese language|13079696
ast|Asturian|Asturian language|550000
av|Avar|Avar language|600000
ay|Aymara|Aymara language|2200000
az|Azeri|Azeri language|30000000
ba|Bashkir|Bashkir language|1000000
bar|Bavarian|Bavarian language|12000000
bat-smg|Samogitian|Samogitian language|500000
bcl|Central Bicolano|Central Bicolano language|2500000
be|Belarusian|Belarusian language|7000000
be-x-old|Belarusian (Tarashkevitsa)|Belarusian (Tarashkevitsa) language|7000000
bg|Bulgarian|Bulgarian language|12000000
bh|Bihari|Bihari language|52000000
bi|Bislama|Bislama language|206000
bm|Bambara|Bambara language|2700000
bn|Bengali|Bengali language|207000000
bo|Tibetan|Tibetan language|6150000
bpy|Bishnupriya Manipuri|Bishnupriya Manipuri language|450000
br|Breton|Breton language|500000
bs|Bosnian|Bosnian language|2000000
bug|Buginese|Buginese language|3500000
bxr|Buryat (Russia)|Buryat (Russia) language|400000
ca|Catalan|Catalan language|12000000
cbk-zam|Zamboanga Chavacano|Zamboanga Chavacano language|607000
cdo|Min Dong|Min Dong language|9100000
ce|Chechen|Chechen language|1330000
ceb|Cebuano|Cebuano language|28000000
ch|Chamorro|Chamorro language|60000
cho|Choctaw|Choctaw language|9200
chr|Cherokee|Cherokee language|15000
chy|Cheyenne|Cheyenne language|1700
co|Corsican|Corsican language|400000
cr|Cree|Cree language|50000
crh|Crimean Tatar|Crimean Tatar language|400000
cs|Czech|Czech language|12000000
csb|Kashubian|Kashubian language|50000
cu|Old Church Slavonic|Old Church Slavonic language|0
cv|Chuvash|Chuvash language|2000000
cy|Welsh|Welsh language|600000
da|Danish|Danish language|5300000
de|German|German language|124000000
diq|Zazaki|Zazaki language|2500000
dsb|Lower Sorbian|Lower Sorbian language|14000
dv|Divehi|Divehi language|300000
dz|Dzongkha|Dzongkha language|600000
ee|Ewe|Ewe language|3000000
el|Greek|Greek language|12000000
eml|Emilian-Romagnol|Emilian-Romagnol language|2000000
en|English|English language|1000000000
eo|Esperanto|Esperanto language|2000000
es|Spanish|Spanish language|420000000
et|Estonian|Estonian language|1100000
eu|Basque|Basque language|580000
fa|Persian|Persian language|110000000
ff|Fula|Fula language|10000000
fi|Finnish|Finnish language|6000000
fiu-vro|Võro|Võro language|70000
fj|Fijian|Fijian language|550000
fo|Faroese|Faroese language|80000
fr|French|French language|130000000
frp|Franco-Provençal/Arpitan|Franco-Provençal/Arpitan language|113000
fur|Friulian|Friulian language|600000
fy|West Frisian|West Frisian language|400000
ga|Irish|Irish language|100000
gd|Scottish Gaelic|Scottish Gaelic language|60000
gl|Galician|Galician language|3500000
glk|Gilaki|Gilaki language|2000000
gn|Guarani|Guarani language|7000000
got|Gothic|Gothic language|0
gu|Gujarati|Gujarati language|46000000
gv|Manx|Manx language|1745
ha|Hausa|Hausa language|39000000
hak|Hakka|Hakka language|34000000
haw|Hawaiian|Hawaiian language|2000
he|Hebrew|Hebrew language|7000000
hi|Hindi|Hindi language|330000000
ho|Hiri Motu|Hiri Motu language|120000
hr|Croatian|Croatian language|5000000
hsb|Upper Sorbian|Upper Sorbian language|55000
ht|Haitian|Haitian language|7800000
hu|Hungarian|Hungarian language|14500000
hy|Armenian|Armenian language|7000000
hz|Herero|Herero language|133000
ia|Interlingua|Interlingua language|1500
id|Indonesian|Indonesian language|200000000
ie|Interlingue|Interlingue language|0
ig|Igbo|Igbo language|20000000
ii|Sichuan Yi|Sichuan Yi language|6000000
ik|Inupiak|Inupiak language|10000
ilo|Ilokano|Ilokano language|7000000
io|Ido|Ido language|2500
is|Icelandic|Icelandic language|300000
it|Italian|Italian language|70000000
iu|Inuktitut|Inuktitut language|30000
ja|Japanese|Japanese language|127000000
jbo|Lojban|Lojban language|0
jv|Javanese|Javanese language|100000000
ka|Georgian|Georgian language|4100000
kab|Kabyle|Kabyle language|7000000
kg|Kongo|Kongo language|7000000
ki|Kikuyu|Kikuyu language|5347000
kj|Kuanyama|Kuanyama language|670000
kk|Kazakh|Kazakh language|12000000
kl|Greenlandic|Greenlandic language|54000
km|Khmer|Khmer language|16000000
kn|Kannada|Kannada language|40000000
ko|Korean|Korean language|71000000
kr|Kanuri|Kanuri language|4000000
ks|Kashmiri|Kashmiri language|4600000
ksh|Ripuarian|Ripuarian language|250000
ku|Kurdish|Kurdish language|20000000
kv|Komi|Komi language|293000
kw|Cornish|Cornish language|3500
ky|Kirghiz|Kirghiz language|3136733
la|Latin|Latin language|
lad|Ladino|Ladino language|110000
lb|Luxembourgish|Luxembourgish language|300000
lbe|Lak|Lak language|120000
lg|Luganda|Luganda language|3110000
li|Limburgian|Limburgian language|1600000
lij|Ligurian|Ligurian language|0
lmo|Lombard|Lombard language|9130000
ln|Lingala|Lingala language|10000000
lo|Lao|Lao language|5225552
lt|Lithuanian|Lithuanian language|4000000
lv|Latvian|Latvian language|1500000
map-bms|Banyumasan|Banyumasan language|15000000
mg|Malagasy|Malagasy language|6000000
mh|Marshallese|Marshallese language|43900
mi|Maori|Maori language|150000
mk|Macedonian|Macedonian language|2000000
ml|Malayalam|Malayalam language|35700000
mn|Mongolian|Mongolian language|5700000
mo|Moldovan|Moldovan language|2030000
mr|Marathi|Marathi language|90000000
ms|Malay|Malay language|30000000
mt|Maltese|Maltese language|600000
mus|Muscogee|Muscogee language|4300
my|Burmese|Burmese language|42000000
mzn|Mazandarani|Mazandarani language|3000000
na|Nauruan|Nauruan language|6000
nah|Nahuatl|Nahuatl language|1500000
nap|Neapolitan|Neapolitan language|7500000
nds|Low Saxon|Low Saxon language|10000000
nds-nl|Dutch Low Saxon|Dutch Low Saxon language|
ne|Nepali|Nepali language|40000000
new|Newar / Nepal Bhasa|Newar / Nepal Bhasa language|1000000
ng|Ndonga|Ndonga language|690000
nl|Dutch|Dutch language|23000000
nn|Norwegian (Nynorsk)|Norwegian (Nynorsk) language|500000
no|Norwegian (Bokmål)|Norwegian (Bokmål) language|5000000
nov|Novial|Novial language|0
nrm|Norman|Norman language|20000
nv|Navajo|Navajo language|178000
ny|Chichewa|Chichewa language|9300000
oc|Occitan|Occitan language|1900000
om|Oromo|Oromo language|25000000
or|Oriya|Oriya language|31000000
os|Ossetian|Ossetian language|500000
pa|Punjabi|Punjabi language|88000000
pag|Pangasinan|Pangasinan language|1500000
pam|Kapampangan|Kapampangan language|2300000
pap|Papiamentu|Papiamentu language|329000
pdc|Pennsylvania German|Pennsylvania German language|300000
pi|Pali|Pali language|0
pih|Norfolk|Norfolk language|616
pl|Polish|Polish language|46000000
pms|Piedmontese|Piedmontese language|2000000
ps|Pashto|Pashto language|50000000
pt|Portuguese|Portuguese language|213000000
qu|Quechua|Quechua language|10400000
rm|Romansh|Romansh language|70000
rmy|Romani|Romani language|4800000
rn|Kirundi|Kirundi language|4600000
ro|Romanian|Romanian language|28000000
roa-rup|Aromanian|Aromanian language|300000
roa-tara|Tarantino|Tarantino language|900000
ru|Russian|Russian language|255000000
rw|Kinyarwanda|Kinyarwanda language|7000000
sa|Sanskrit|Sanskrit language|200000
sc|Sardinian|Sardinian language|2500000
scn|Sicilian|Sicilian language|10000000
sco|Scots|Scots language|1500000
sd|Sindhi|Sindhi language|21300000
se|Northern Sami|Northern Sami language|20000
sg|Sango|Sango language|2000000
sh|Serbo-Croatian|Serbo-Croatian language|20000000
si|Sinhalese|Sinhalese language|15000000
simple|Simple English|Simple English language|
sk|Slovak|Slovak language|6000000
sl|Slovenian|Slovenian language|2200000
sm|Samoan|Samoan language|370337
sn|Shona|Shona language|7000000
so|Somali|Somali language|10000000
sq|Albanian|Albanian language|6000000
sr|Serbian|Serbian language|11000000
ss|Swati|Swati language|1706924
st|Sesotho|Sesotho language|5000000
stq|Saterland Frisian|Saterland Frisian language|2000
su|Sundanese|Sundanese language|27000000
sv|Swedish|Swedish language|9000000
sw|Swahili|Swahili language|40000000
ta|Tamil|Tamil language|74000000
te|Telugu|Telugu language|80000000
tet|Tetum|Tetum language|800000
tg|Tajik|Tajik language|4380000
th|Thai|Thai language|50000000
ti|Tigrinya|Tigrinya language|6700000
tk|Turkmen|Turkmen language|9000000
tl|Tagalog|Tagalog language|87000000
tlh|Klingon|Klingon language|16
tn|Tswana|Tswana language|4407174
to|Tongan|Tongan language|105000
tokipona|Tokipona|Tokipona language|3
tpi|Tok Pisin|Tok Pisin language|4000000
tr|Turkish|Turkish language|80000000
ts|Tsonga|Tsonga language|3275105
tt|Tatar|Tatar language|8000000
tum|Tumbuka|Tumbuka language|2000000
tw|Twi|Twi language|7000000
ty|Tahitian|Tahitian language|120000
udm|Udmurt|Udmurt language|550000
ug|Uyghur|Uyghur language|10000000
uk|Ukrainian|Ukrainian language|41000000
ur|Urdu|Urdu language|104000000
uz|Uzbek|Uzbek language|18500000
ve|Venda|Venda language|750000
vec|Venetian|Venetian language|2200000
vi|Vietnamese|Vietnamese language|80000000
vls|West Flemish|West Flemish language|1160000
vo|Volapük|Volapük language|25
wa|Walloon|Walloon language|600000
war|Waray-Waray|Waray-Waray language|3000000
wo|Wolof|Wolof language|6700000
wuu|Wu|Wu language|77000000
xal|Kalmyk|Kalmyk language|518500
xh|Xhosa|Xhosa language|7900000
yi|Yiddish|Yiddish language|3000000
yo|Yoruba|Yoruba language|21000000
za|Zhuang|Zhuang language|14000000
zea|Zealandic|Zealandic language|250000
zh|Chinese|Chinese language|1080000000
zh-classical|Classical Chinese|Classical Chinese language|
zh-min-nan|Min Nan|Min Nan language|46000000
zh-yue|Cantonese|Cantonese language|66000000
zu|Zulu|Zulu language|26000000
--
Lars Aronsson (lars(a)aronsson.se)
Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se
Hello everyone,
First of all I would like to apologise for the cross-post, finding the
correct place to send this is somewhat difficult.
I'd like to present a legal scenario (disclaimer, IANAL, although I'm
sure that will become painfully clear) that I am hoping to get resolved.
I will try and present it in the shortest and clearest way possible.
I work on machine translation software,¹ focussing on lesser-used and
under-resourced languages.² One of the things that is needed for our
software is bilingual dictionaries. A usable way of getting bilingual
dictionaries is to harvest Wikipedia interwiki links.³
This much is straightforward. The legal scenario comes with the
licensing issues involved.
Our software, composed of an engine, and language pair packages are
under the GPL. Our language pairs, which represent both programmatic
elements (rules, scripts etc.), and non-programmatic elements (tagged
wordlists) etc. Both of these elements are tightly coupled. It is _not_
practical to distribute them separately. Furthermore, many of the
linguistic sub-resources we come across, spellcheckers, dictionaries,
etc. are released under the GPL, which would make decoupling the two
parts un-achievable, or at the very least, un-maintainable.
Wikipedia is under the GFDL. This covers everything that is
user-contributed. GFDL content cannot be included in GPL programs. Here
is my problem.
Now, I've been told that interwiki links do not have the level of
originality required for copyright, many of them being created by bot.
I'm not sure that this is the case, as some of them are done by people
and choosing the correct article has at least some level of work.
Besides, this would be a cop-out, if we for example wanted to sense
disambiguate the terms extracted using the first paragraph of the
article, this would still be a licence violation.
So, is there any way to resolve this? I understand that probably it is
on no-ones high list of priorities. On the other hand, I understand that
the FSF is considering to update the GFDL to make it compatible with the
Creative Commons CC-BY-SA licence.
Would it also be possible at the same time to add some kind of clause
making GFDL content usable in GPL licensed linguistic data for machine
translation systems?
Many thanks for your time, and I'm sorry if this problem has been bought
up before and I've missed the discussion. Any questions you have can be
directed to myself, or our mailing list:
apertium-stuff(a)lists.sourceforge.net
Fran
¹ http://www.apertium.org
² For example, we have systems to translate between Spanish-Occitan, and
Spanish-Catalan. These systems generate pretty good translations
(needing only superficial post-editting) and have been used on the two
Wikipedias in question. See:
http://xixona.dlsi.ua.es/wiki/index.php/Evaluating_with_Wikipedia
³ This would probably also apply to data extracted from Wiktionary, but
for the moment lets concentrate on Wikipedia as that is what I have been
doing.
Please circulate this call among Wikimedia communities, researchers
and other people that may be interested! This call is also online at
http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org/wiki/Call_for_Participation
== Wikimania 2008: Call for Participation ==
[[w:Wikimania|Wikimania]] is an annual global event devoted to
[[foundation:Main Page|Wikimedia]] projects around the globe
(including [[w:Main page|Wikipedia]], [[:w:b:en:Main page|Wikibooks]],
[[:w:s:en:Main page|Wikisource]], [[:en:n:Main page|Wikinews]],
[[:w:wikt:en:Main page|Wiktionary]], [[:w:v:en:Main
page|Wikiversity]], [[:m:q:en:Main page|Wikiquote]], [[:species:Main
page|Wikispecies]], and [[:commons:Main page|Wikimedia Commons]]) and
for its editors and users to gather, meet each other, exchange ideas,
and report on research and projects. It is a community event, which
is also open to the public and to researchers. This year's conference
will be held from '''July 17-19, 2008''' in
[[w:Alexandria|Alexandria]], [[w:Egypt|Egypt]] at the new Library of
Alexandria ([[w:Bibliotheca Alexandrina|Bibliotheca Alexandrina]]).
For more information, please visit the Wikimania 2008 Home page at
http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org
We are accepting submissions for presentations, workshops, panels,
posters, open spaces, and artistic artifacts. Please carefully follow
the submission guidelines below. Submissions can be sent via the
following link:
:https://wikimedia.pentabarf.org/submission/wikimania2008
=== Important dates ===
* 1 February – 16 March : Submission
* 17 March – 30 April : Review, feedback and notification of acceptance
* 17 – 19 July 2007 : '''Wikimania'''
=== Conference Tracks ===
Submissions should address one or more of the following themes:
; Wikimedia Communities : Interesting projects and particularities
within the communities; policy creation within individual projects;
conflict resolution and community dynamics; reputation and identity;
multi-lingualism, languages and cultures; social studies. We
explicitly invite you to discuss your local Wikimedia project's
community.
; Free Knowledge : Open access to information; ways to gather and
distribute free knowledge, usage of the Wikimedia projects in
education, journalism, research; ways to improve content quality and
usability; copyright laws and other legal areas that interfere with
Wikimedia projects. Free Content in the Middle-East/Africa.
; Technical infrastructure : Issues related to MediaWiki development
and extensions; Wikimedia's technical infrastructure; new ideas for
development (including case studies from other wikis or similar
projects).
; Scientific track : Papers about massively collaborative work, open
and free content creation, community dynamics, the social or economic
aspects of the Wikimedia projects, and other topics related to
Wikimedia projects. Papers submitted to the scientific track will be
peer reviewed by a reviewing committee regarding their novelty,
rigour, and estimated impact, and accepted or rejected based on these
reviews. The papers will be published in proceedings afterwards, and
depending on the number and the quality of the submissions, a journal
special issue may be pursued. Scientific track papers must be in
English, and must not exceed 7,500 words (or 15 pages LNCS).
Your topic must be related either to the Wikimedia projects and their
communities, or to the creation of free content in general.
=== Types of Submissions ===
We are seeking submissions for
* presentations (10–30 minute talks with discussion afterwards)
* workshops (60–120 minute session with more involvement of the audience)
* panels (group of 2-5 speakers to discuss on a specific subject)
* posters (printed presentations or visual displays that can stand on their own)
* artistic artifacts (plays, competitions, comedy, visualizations, or
other representations of some aspect of the projects)
In addition there will the possibility to give [[lightning talks]] (5
minute short presentations). These will be organized on the Wikimania
2008 wiki without need to submit via the submission system.
=== Submission Guidelines ===
Wikimania is organized by volunteers, so please help us minimize
wasted effort by submitting via the [[submission]] system and
following these guidelines. All submissions MUST explicitly include
the following:
# an English "Event title"
# a short English "Abstract" of your event in 50 to 100 words. The
abstract will be used for the public schedule.
# the "Track" your submission fits in best (Wikimedia Communities,
Free Knowledge, Technical infrastructure, or Scientific)
# the "Event type" (presentation, workshop, panel, poster, artistic...)
# information about the speaker (full name, email, a short description
of at least 2 sentences...)
# for submissions to the scientific track: set "Submission of paper
for proceedings" to "yes" and upload a paper instead of the
"Description" below as "Attachment". Papers must be in English, and
must not exceed 7,500 words.
In addition you can add some more information like a a subtitle of the
event, an image (will be resized to 128x128px) and private "Submission
notes" for reviewers and conference organisation. In particular you
should give:
* a more detailed "Description" of your event in English or Arabic.
The description is essential for review: please give an overview of
the areas to be covered or taught. The better you describe your
submission, the more likely it will get accepted. State clearly the
relevance to the Wikimedia projects and whether submission concerns a
specific wiki project. You can also include links. The description
will later be used for the public schedule but you can edit it before.
* special requirements (such as equipment for a workshop or panel) if needed
* the language used for presentation
* whether you want to submit a paper for proceedings
* whether you want to submit presentation slides
* whether the presentation is intended to be a specific length
* the target audience you are going to reach and what previous
knowledge is needed
* images or sketches of the poster or artistic artifact if available
* for panel submissions a suggested moderator and short biographies of
each suggested panelist
In the "Submission notes" you should tell us whether you will attend
to Wikimania (a) surely, (b) probably, (c) only if your submission is
accepted, or (d) only if we provide travel and/or accommodation. You
can also add yourself to the public list of attendees at the Wikimania
2008 wiki: http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org/wiki/Attendees
Please note that all submissions must be dual licensed under the GNU
Free Documentation License version 1.2 or later ''and'' the Creative
Commons Attribution License! By submitting for Wikimania 2008 you
agree to this condition.
For more information see the submission guidelines at
http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submission
===Submissions===
Once you are sure you have included all of the required information,
please send your submission before the respective deadline through our
'''submission system''':
:https://wikimedia.pentabarf.org/submission
== See also ==
* About the venue: http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org/wiki/Venue
* Brainstorming page for program ideas:
http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program_ideas
* Editable list of attendees: http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org/wiki/Attendees