I know that this issue has come up one or two times this list
before, but from what I saw in the archives the discussion
attracted only a small audience, while the issue itself does not
show any signs of going way. I post this now hoping that there
will be a bigger discussion, hopefully followed by a resolution
of the matter.
The background of the issue and some comments on it are
available at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28policy%29#Moldovan_W…
and more information is at
http://mo.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ronline/Propunere
In short, http://mo.wikipedia.org/ is a version of Wikipedia
written in Romanian with Cyrillic characters. This combination is
used nowhere in the world except in Transnistria which is a
breakaway region of Republic of Moldova without international
recognition and with a rather dubious regime. It is a relic from
Soviet times, when in Republic of Moldova people used Cyrillic.
There are two views on this matter. Some people think that
nothing is wrong with having Wikipedia in all languages/character
sets possible. The number of potential readers and editors of
this particular version of Wikipedia is very small, but it still
could be useful. And deleting a language version of Wikipedia
would be against the Wiki spirit, would make Wikipedia
politicized, etc.
The other view is mostly reflected by people in Republic of
Moldova itself and neighboring Romania (again, we are talking
about the Romanian language here, the issue is the set of
characters - in Romania proper they use the Latin alphabet). To
us (I am from Republic of Moldova) writing our language in
Cyrillic is a symbol of what was wrong with the Soviet Union, a
totalitarian regime which did not give us even the choice of how
to write our own language, and of all the tragedies which
happened after Republic of Moldova was annexed to the Soviet
Union in 1940 and then again in 1945.
The discussion of this issue has been going on since June; see
again
http://mo.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ronline/Propunere
Neither side of course has any power to do anything about it (an
administrator is not enough to close it down, for example). I
would like to again express my hope that this discussion will
attract a wide audience, and that the issue of existence of this
Wikipedia will eventually be settled.
Thank you,
Oleg Alexandrov
CAM assistant professor, UCLA
aoleg(a)math.ucla.edu
I keep seeing references to fonts provided by our very own node_ue, and they
seem to have been well received all over the place. However the site
provided seems to be down:
http://fixedsys.org/~node_ue/fonts/
I'm asking here because it seems to be a fairly easy place to get hold of
Mark, and I thought it would be of general interest.
Is there any other place to get these fonts? I would like to see if they
would be useful for further special font designations like {{polytonic}} and
{{IPA}}: {{gothic}} maybe?
--
Phil
[[en:User:Phil Boswell]]
Dear all,
after a very tight vote within the jury, Boston has been chosen to
host Wikimania 2006, the second International Wikimedia Conference.
All information about the location can be found at:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2006/Boston
We wish to thank all participants for the work they have put into
their bids, and especially the supporters of Toronto whose city made
it to the shortlist. Results of the vote were 5 for Boston to 4 for
Toronto, and one abstention.
Definite dates and agenda to be confirmed shortly.
Best,
Delphine
PS. Sorry for the post in English to other lists, thank you for
translating it if needed.
PS. Désolée pour l'annonce en anglais. Bitte die Nachricht auf
Englisch vergeben. Disculpe per la notizia en inglese. ;-)
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No, we have no official representative in China. We have people in China,
who works voluntarily as sysops as well as elsewhere in the world and as
well as the other language versions.
Regards.
Ting Chen
> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: Jiaming Xu <john.xu.1982(a)gmail.com>
> An: Wing.Philopp(a)gmx.de
> Betreff: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Wikipedia blocked in China?
> Datum: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:16:27 +0800
>
> Thanks pal. Is this sysops in Beijing an official representative of
> wikimedia in China?
>
> On 10/21/05, Ting Chen <Wing.Philopp(a)gmx.de> wrote:
> >
> > The block is officially confirmed. One of the sysops in Beijing would
> > submit
> > a pittition in the next days.
> >
> > >What is really happening? There's
> > > rumor
> > > on the net that it's been blocked by the government here, but I don't
> > know
> > > exactly what is happening.
> > > Plus, is it a malfunction of the colocation servers in Seoul, Korea
> > where
> > > the Asian access might be directed to?
> > > And I can view wikipedia articles from A9's syndication, but sure no
> > > editing.
> > > I see from the Berlios site that it seems fine in the US and Europe,
> so
> > > friends from Taiwan and Hongkong could be esp helpful.
> > > Thank ou.
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Hi folks. I noticed several days ago that wikipedia is no longer accessible
from mainland China (en,de,zh.....). What is really happening? There's rumor
on the net that it's been blocked by the government here, but I don't know
exactly what is happening.
Plus, is it a malfunction of the colocation servers in Seoul, Korea where
the Asian access might be directed to?
And I can view wikipedia articles from A9's syndication, but sure no
editing.
I see from the Berlios site that it seems fine in the US and Europe, so
friends from Taiwan and Hongkong could be esp helpful.
Thank ou.
Hi, I was invited to speak about "Wiki-projects" on a translator's
conference in Cracow. Well, really my translator colleagues know me for
the one that works on the Wikimedia projects and of course also on
Ultimate Wiktionary. This means that I will tell about how things on a
wiki work, about GFDL, about Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Ultimate Wiktionary
and if time permits also about Wikibooks, Wikisource, Wikiquote,
Wikinews and whatever - I would at least like to add all these
informations on a CD to give to the participants (there should be
descriptions in many languages around, right?).
Now I don't have problems to burn approx. 120 CDs - I could also ask for
help to a friend of mine here, where I live, but I need contents -
enough to show the potentials but not too much in order to have people
then go to the projects itself for further reference.
I just talked with Frieda from the Italian chapter - she will help me to
create the entrance pages that have to be done manually.
Now what I would like to have are the downloaded pages of the
translations of the week from the last year because I suppose these are
articles that are very complete. I suppose, being these translations
they will also create a very particular mood for translators and maybe
some of them will decide to dedicate some time to their local projects.
People going to this conference come from anywhere and it is very likely
that they will give copies of the CD to friends and others if we have
some useful stuff on it. I'll also try to add some glossaries that I
have myself and that are under GFDL.
So please help us to create this CD by downloading these pages and
sending them to me. Maybe it would also be a good idea to tell us
briefly on the list what/on which wikipedia you are going to do the
downloads of the pages.
Or would it make sense to use HTTrack (well I should learn how to use it
properly) in order to have the links working? Martin gave me this idea
for another project some days ago and there I saw that all the links
access directly the website where the page was downloaded from on the
Internet.
Well, thank you for any help!
Ciao, Sabine
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Some of you know that I (LA2) am the founder of Project Runeberg,
a website (runeberg.org) where we scan old books from Sweden,
Denmark, Finland, Norway, and Iceland, including several works
that are recycled for Wikipedia. In promoting the way we work, my
biggest obstacle is that the world at large is so unwilling to
learn Swedish. You don't know what you're missing!
So I found and bought "The New Student's Reference Work", a little
encyclopedia in five volumes, published in Chicago in 1914. As it
was published before 1923, it is now in the public domain. Since
this non-Scandinavian work doesn't fit in Project Runeberg, I put
it in Wikisource.
First I scanned images (300 dpi JPEG) of all 2791 pages and
uploaded them to Wikimedia Commons, where you will find them in
the category http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:LA2-NSRW
Then, for each book page, I created a wiki page on Wikisource
displaying the scanned image and containing the raw OCR text. If
you want to help in proofreading, use two separate browser windows
to open the enlarged image and edit the wiki text.
Finally, I made a front page with a short preface and a rough
table of contents, which is your starting point:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_New_Student%27s_Reference_Work
Some trivia:
It turns out that this work has a historic relationship to
Encyclopædia Britannica. The main editor, Chandler B. Beach,
started out as a salesman for Britannica, but in 1892 set out to
create his own, smaller and more easily sold "Youth's Cyclopedia".
His companion F.E. Compton took over the firm in 1907 and later
produced "Compton's Encyclopedia". In 1941 this competitor was
acquired by Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc.
Someone already noticed that the illustration plate for Peanuts,
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:LA2-NSRW-3-0473.jpg is
identical to the one found in Koehler's Medicinal-Plants 1887,
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Koeh-163.jpg
So reuse of encyclopedic materials is nothing new indeed.
--
Lars Aronsson (lars(a)aronsson.se)
Project Runeberg - free Nordic literature - http://runeberg.org/
Placeopedia is an online application which integrates Google Maps
images and Wikipedia encyclopedia articles.See
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placeopedia>
and<http://www.placeopedia.com/>.
The Board are currently working on a logo licensing contract which
would permit such sites to use the Wikipedia logo.
A new mailing list for Placeopedia has recently been created at
<http://www.mysociety.org/mailman/listinfo/mysociety-maps> and they
would welcome input from Wikipedians on various aspects of the site.
For example, some issues already raised are whether links to
Placeopedia should be added automatically to all Wikipedia articles
that have a corresponding entry in Placeopedia. There is already a
template for this on the English Wikipedia
(<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Placeopedia>) but so far any
links have only been added manually.
Another issue is whether users of Placepedia should be able to add
categories to Wikipedia directly from Placeopedia.
If you have an interest in maps, please join the mailing list to help
answer these Wikipedia-related questions.
<http://www.mysociety.org/mailman/listinfo/mysociety-maps>
Angela.
Since the jury has been speculating on why or why not people would go
to one or the other of the two shortlisted cities for Wikimania, a
page was started on meta to actually stop speculating and finding
reasons why *you* (not your neighbour, not your dog, not your
grand-mother) would go (or not go) to Boston or to Toronto. This is
not a vote, this is not even really a poll. Please help us by stating
your reasons on this page:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2006/Why_and_why_not%3F
[[m:Wikimania 2006/Why_and_why_not?]]
Thank you :-)
Delphine
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