Forwarding because this (ambitious!) proposal may be of interest to people
on other lists. I'm not endorsing the proposal at this time, but I'm
curious about it.
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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From: Denny Vrandečić <vrandecic(a)gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 6:32 PM
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Semantic Web languages allow to express ontologies and knowledge bases in a
way meant to be particularly amenable to the Web. Ontologies formalize the
shared understanding of a domain. But the most expressive and widespread
languages that we know of are human natural languages, and the largest
knowledge base we have is the wealth of text written in human languages.
We looks for a path to bridge the gap between knowledge representation
languages such as OWL and human natural languages such as English. We
propose a project to simultaneously expose that gap, allow to collaborate
on closing it, make progress widely visible, and is highly attractive and
valuable in its own right: a Wikipedia written in an abstract language to
be rendered into any natural language on request. This would make current
Wikipedia editors about 100x more productive, and increase the content of
Wikipedia by 10x. For billions of users this will unlock knowledge they
currently do not have access to.
My first talk on this topic will be on October 10, 2018, 16:45-17:00, at
the Asilomar in Monterey, CA during the Blue Sky track of ISWC. My second,
longer talk on the topic will be at the DL workshop in Tempe, AZ, October
27-29. Comments are very welcome as I prepare the slides and the talk.
Link to the paper: http://simia.net/download/abstractwikipedia.pdf
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Thanks for your letter,
Now I m written my Home Office Mailing Address for your further information
and necessery action if needed :-
2nd Floor, Falate No 201, Al-Kareem Arcade,
Near Jhat Phat Market, Chakiwara No 2,
Country Code No, 0092,
Region South Asia ,
Mobile Phone Numbers: 0092-3003572508 and 0092-3322352563,
Email ID: asgharilogistics(a)gmail.comYou are requested to please send me any
articals/Informations via DHL, FeedEx mail directly to the above mentioned
Dated: 23 October 2018.
Here is the information required for the procedure:
*Name of the language:* Provençal / Prouvençau
*Codes:* ISO-639 1: oc
ISO-639 2: oc
*Number of living native speakers:* about 400.000 (no recent official
It can be considered as a dialect of the Occitan language but some
particularities make it very different from the other Occitan dialects.
Moreover, the way of writing is not the same: a different written form is
used in the provençal area, a specific one, designed for the Provençal
language/dialect, and called "mistralian norm". It is a norm which uses
forms closer to the oral language, and thus easier to read, and is the
majority written form used in the region.
Because of the fact that provençal, like all other regional languages of
France, has never been taught in schools until now, most of the native
speakers can't understand a written text, even if they speak the language
and they understand it orally. If one of those speakers want to read a
Wikipedia article in the language (s)he speaks, he will find nothing but an
article written in general Occitan, that (s)he won't understand because of
the dialectal differences and the written form used, an unfamiliar norm
(s)he won't be able to read easily.
That's the reason why we need a Provençal version of Wikipedia, and why I
send you this email. Please consider all these elements before taking a
decision. I am ready to provide more elements if necessary.
What I told you is not a politic or a personal opinion; it's the result of
my ambition of preserving and promoting this language, an ambition shared
by many other people.
Adding Provençal to the Wikipedia languages would help us to make it alive.
Thank you very much,