On Sunday 28 July 2002 03:00 am, The Cunctator wrote:
> What are the articles this person has been changing?
For 66.108.155.126:
20:08 Jul 27, 2002 Computer
20:07 Jul 27, 2002 Exploit
20:07 Jul 27, 2002 AOL
20:05 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
20:05 Jul 27, 2002 Leet
20:03 Jul 27, 2002 Root
20:02 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
19:59 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
19:58 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
19:54 Jul 27, 2002 Principle of least astonishment
19:54 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
19:52 Jul 27, 2002 Trance music
19:51 Jul 27, 2002 Trance music
For 208.24.115.6:
20:20 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
For 141.157.232.26:
20:19 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
Most of these were complete replacements with discoherent statements.
Such as "TAP IS THE ABSOLUTE DEFINITION OF THE NOUN HACKER" for Hacker.
For the specifics follow http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Special:Ipblocklist
and look at the contribs.
--mav
Dear all,
Most of you would be aware of some of the discussions that have occurred
around Wikipedia in the Norwegian languages. Since the last round of
discussions on this list, there has been a lot of internal debate, as
well as what seems to be a fairly widely accepted agreement following
voting.
This e-mail intends to, after a brief recap on Norwegian language and
wikipedia issues, take those interested through the latest development
and will stake out the road ahead. It is also intended to inform the
international community about the current agreement on no.wikipedia, so
as to prevent misunderstandings in the future.
Finally, we will mention an unfortunate reaction to the vote by a small
number of users at the Norwegian Bokmål/Riksmål (no:) wikipedia who want
to disregard the result of the voting and are planning to create a
_third_ Norwegian wikipedia with the sole mission of mixing the contents
of the two current Norwegian versions.
== A short language history of Norway ==
Spoken Norwegian ("norsk") (ISO 639-2 alpha-2 code "no") is in a fairly
unique situation compared to most other languages of the world in that
it has two widely accepted written standards, Bokmål (ISO 639-2 alpha-2
code "nb") and Nynorsk (ISO 639-2 alpha-2 code "nn"). By national
legislation they are both regarded as official written forms of
Norwegian. In addition, many people still make a distinction between
Bokmål and its precursor which still is in use, Riksmål.
Briefly speaking, Bokmål and Riksmål are descendants of the Danish
written language. Until the 1800s, Danish was the only widely used
written language in Norway as a result of four centuries of union with
Denmark. With increasing independence came a wish to norwegianise the
Danish standard, with Knud Knudsen at the forefront for changing parts
of the vocabulary and orthographics. Thus, Riksmål, and later Bokmål,
resulted. These forms together are today probably used by about 90% of
Norway's population, or somewhere around 3,500,000 people.
Parallel to this development, a new written standard was created by Ivar
Aasen. He travelled extensively throughout Norway, and based his new
language, landsmål, on the grammar and vocabulary of dialect samples
from around the country. This was later renamed Nynorsk. Modern Nynorsk
differs significantly from modern Bokmål, and may be linguistically
looked upon as as different (or as similar if you like) as Swedish is to
Danish. For English or Dutch/German speakers, the differences may be
likened to those between (Lowland) Scots and English or Low German and
Dutch. Today it is estimated that about 500,000-600,000 people have
Nynorsk as their first written language.
More information about the Norwegian language history can be found in
English, German, French, Spanish or Portuguese on the website of the
Norwegian Language Council:
http://www.sprakrad.no/templates/Page.aspx?id=653
== A short history of Wikipedia in Norwegian ==
The first Norwegian wikipedia started 26 November 2001 on the subdomain
no.wikipedia.org. As most wikipedias, its contributor and article count
started really picking up around the end of 2003. At the time, it
accepted all written standards of Norwegian, although the amount of
Nynorsk was minimal. There were already several debates about the
feasibilty and appropriateness of keeping the two languages united on
one Wikipedia. On 31 July 2004 a Wikipedia for Nynorsk was created.
The creation of nn:, however, split the community at no: wikipedia. Many
felt that given that Nynorsk now had its own wikipedia, no: should
become a Bokmål/Riksmål Wikipedia only. Others disapproved and claimed
that there was no need to change and that it should continue its
language policy of accepting all and keep its interwiki link name of
"Norsk".
Nynorsk Wikipedia soon proved a success, as it within the next few
months gathered several people who had felt uncomfortable in the
(mainly) Bokmål environment at no:. The name displayed in interwiki
links became "Norsk (nynorsk)" (languages are not spelt with upper case
in Norwegian). To date it continues to be one of the fastest growing
wikipedias, with a steady article increase, now at over 6000 articles
and >50 editors with more than 10 edits since arrival.
== Votes ==
The issue of no:'s language policy has come up time and again, and a
vote was held in March ([[:no:Wikipedia:Målform]]) as to which policy to
adapt. Independent of the method of the tally (whether or not to include
new contributors etc.) there was a majority for switching to a
Bokmål/Riksmål only language policy (50% for Bokmål/Riksmål, 43.2% for
Bokmål/Riksmål/Nynorsk/Høgnorsk, and 6.8% for the official variants
Bokmål/Nynorsk only).
Following this result, there is now going to be a vote on which
interwiki link name will most appropriately reflect the current language
policy of no:. The result of this vote will most likely be either "Norsk
(bokmål)" or "Norsk (bokmål/riksmål)".
Understandably, there has also been a debate as to whether the subdomain
should change from "no" to "nb", as this is the correct representation
of Bokmål according to ISO 639-2. However, there is some resentment
towards such a move and currently a general acceptance in letting the
Bokmål wikipedia stay at "no". The alternative some have suggested is a
server-side redirect from "no" to "nb", in the same way that "nb" today
is a server-side redirect to the equivalent page on "no".
== Summary of the problem ==
Unfortunately, a small group of users (who all write Bokmål/Riksmål) are
ignoring the results from the vote, and are claiming they want to
re-establish a wikipedia for all written standards of Norwegian. They
claim they have been in touch with people centrally in Wikimedia
(developers? stewards?) and that they have so far received positive
comments. With this email, we would like to state the fact that there
have been no official decisions about creating a third Norwegian
wikipedia containing both Bokmål and Nynorsk, it is merely an unofficial
initiative from a small group of users which started a sign-on list at
[[:no:Bruker:Norsk_Wikipedia]]. A spontaneous list with signatures
against this activity was immediately created at
[[:no:Wikipedia-diskusjon:Fellesnorsk]]. The process of creating a third
Norwegian wikipedia has not gone through a voting process in any of the
two existing Norwegian wikipedias (no: and nn:) and can not be
considered as a decision by the Norwegian Wikipedia community.
We believe the creation of a third wikipedia under the Wikimedia
foundation would have a serious and unfortunate impact on the existing
wikipedias in Norwegian, no: and nn:, and would undermine Wikipedia's
reputation in Norway. This being said, we are all for extensive co-
operation between the four Scandinavian language wikipedias (including
Swedish and Danish), as evident by the recent creation of
[[:meta:Skanwiki]], the Scandinavian meta-pages, and the use of featured
articles from neighbour wikipedias.
== Conclusion ==
Hopefully, this letter will help people better understand the
complicated language situation of the Norwegian Wikipedia community, so
as to give a background on which discussion can take place on this list
in the future, such as the inevitable debate following a possible
request for a re-establishment of the common (and third!) Norwegian
Wikipedia.
>From the community of no.wikipedia.org and nn.wikipedia.org,
Bjarte Sørensen [[:meta:User:BjarteSorensen]] (Administrator/bureaucrat on nn:)
Lars Alvik [[:no:User:Profoss]] (Administrator/bureaucrat on no:)
Øyvind A. Holm [[:no:User:Sunny256]] (Administrator on no:)
Onar Vikingstad [[:no:User:Vikingstad]] (Administrator on no:)
Jon Harald Søby [[:no:User:Jhs]] (Administrator on no:)
Chris Nyborg [[:no:User:Cnyborg]] (Administrator on no:)
Guttorm Flatabø [[:no:User:Dittaeva]] (Administrator on nn:)
Gunleiv Hadland [[:meta:User:Gunnernett]] (Administrator on nn:)
Jarle Fagerheim [[:nn:User:Jarle]] (Administrator on nn:)
Øyvind Jo Heimdal Eik [[:en:User:Pladask]] (Administrator on nn: and no:)
Kristian André Gallis [[:nn:User:Kristaga]]
Vegard Wærp [[:no:User:Vegardw]]
Nina Aldin Thune [[:no:User:Nina]]
Thor-Rune Hansen [[:no:User:ThorRune]]
Claes Tande [[:no:User:Ctande]]
Arnt-Erik Krokaa [[:no:User:AEK]]
Rune Sattler [[:no:User:Shauni]]
A wikipedian asked me recently if I could allow him to join the
Wikipedia network on Facebook. This network requires to have a valid
email address from Wikipedia (whatever that might be... wikimedia.org
does not constitute a valid address).
Any idea who created that network ?
http://www.facebook.com/networks/50432512/Wikipedia/
Ant
A Barn raising is an event during which a community comes together to
assemble a barn for one or more of its households (...). In the past, a
barn was often the first, largest, and most costly structure built by a
family who settled in a new area. Barns were essential structures for
storage of hay and keeping of horses and cattle, which in those days
were an inseparable part of farming.
----------
Barn raising occurs when a community actively decides to come to the
same place at the same time to help achieve some specific goal. The goal
may be of direct interest to a subset of the community or it may be a
superordinate goal, of interest to the entire community, such as an
international event.
Make the impossible possible. It's pretty much impossible for one person
to raise alone a barn. The main part of the process is taking two framed
walls that have been built lying on the ground and raising them to
vertical. Thus barn raising demands collaboration in a way that other
activities do not.
Make friends. A barn raising tends to be a situation where you raise the
walls of a barn, then you have a big party with everyone who's around.
That's where the social aspect of it comes from. Lift some walls,
rejoice, have beer, and dance.
Benefits to the community, and to the individuals involved:
A typical barn raising generates a sense of accomplishment within a
short period of time. This is a collaboration booster, and generates
good will.
The people helping expect to learn about how to raise barns which will
help them when it comes to their own barn.
Barn raising is fun, as a social event! Having a barn to raise does more
than just get people together and let them talk. It gives them something
to talk about.
When the entire town helps someone build a barn, then that person is
beholden to the entire town, so it creates new and strengthens existing
social bonds.
Asynchronous collaboration liberates us from the need of proximity, but
it also weakens the bond. When the work is done, you're drinking alone
and you have no one to dance with.
Wikis thrive on asynchronous, gradual improvement, and barn raising
events are rare, but important.
Barn raising is not church raising. Although often it is valuable to
build an immaculate example of some ideal or utopian philosophy, these
projects often require a large investment and religious zeal to hold
them together. Sure, churches are often beautiful, but they are
impractical en masse. Conversely, barns are practical, functional,
cheap, full of horseshit, and you don't need to be a hallowed Prophet to
make one. Don't we prefer barns to churches here ?
However, barn raising does requires humility, trust, accountability,
commitment, and sacrifice from and among its community.
Barn raising is not GroupThink. The individual grants the Collective
influence over how she acts, but not how she thinks. Each barn raiser's
motivation may differ, so it doesn't matter if the community disagrees
as to the purpose of the barn, provided that it agrees that a barn is
necessary.
Sources: Wikipedia, Meatball wiki, and some personal tweaks
----------
What does it teach us ?
It may not matter so much that the entire community does not fully agree
with the purpose of the conference. Frankfurt's event may have been a
proof of concept. Boston's may have been a PR event. Taipei's may have
been an asian reachout. Alexandria will perhaps be an arab and public
institutions reachout. And perhaps in the future, London will be a
fundraising event; Paris a political event; Antartica a "save the ice
event". Who knows ?
We will never all agree, and that's fine. Wikipedians can be influenced,
but no one can tell them what to think. They may participate, or not,
they may have different motivations, they may have a different vision,
but that is not what is really important.
What is important is that we collectively agree that an event, which we
chose to call Wikimania, is necessary.
What is important is that we organise this event together.
What is important is that bids are proposed by wikipedians themselves.
What is important is that bids are selected by wikipedians themselves.
What is important is that the program, the speakers, the social events
be chosen and organized by wikipedians themselves.
What is important is that the event be meant with wikipedians and
wikimedia projects in mind.
Get to know other participants. Get to make friends with some of them.
Fight, sweat, scream, cry with them. Damage your nails on the wood. Get
too short nights. Struggle for that hammer. Compete for the jug of
water. Disagree with which paint should be put on it.
But in the end, get the feeling of accomplishment with the others.
Want to kill the barnraising effort ?
Make it an event in San Francisco every year, organized by a
professional team, with a clear agenda defined by the ED (400 people,
must accomodate the press, must be an opportunity to raise money, should
involve 3 international big speakers, opportunity to announce new
software development). This event might be interesting, but that will be
the death of Wikimania.
This is my vision of what Wikimania is.
Ant
Hi all,
I just saw the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version
which shows mediawiki version being used as 1.13alpha (r32485) .
Looking at the CVS commits
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-cvs/2008-March/date.html
I see there were quite a few commits later as well as before and after
that with the latest commit
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-cvs/2008-March/053663.html
with the same subject SVN: [32569] trunk/phase3 .
So on what basis of a particular alpha commit is it used to wikipedia?
Another question but slightly different, is there anyway to know by
either a mail or some RSS or somehow when the mediawiki back-end is
changed to show wikipedia? Let's say it moves to 1.13alpha (r32569) ;)
then how an interested/curious person can come to know without
visiting that particular URL?
Lastly, I'm subscribed but not talking any mail from wikipedia as
already over-subscribed & over-full with mail. But would be interested
to hear from all concerned, so please CC me when replying on the same
:)
--
Regards,
Shirish Agarwal
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Dear All,
The survey on Wikipedia contributors' information source use is still
open for anyone interested and willing to participate.
I am currently engaged in conducting research on Wikipedia users'
information behaviour and especially the information sources and
services used in contributions.
The purpose of this survey is to map information sources used in writing
and editing Wikipedia articles. The survey is a part of the research
project "Information service 2.0" conducted by myself (Department of
Information Studies, Åbo Akademi University, Finland) as a part of the
Academy of Finland research project "Library 2.0 - a new participatory
context".
The individual answers will be processed strictly confidential, the data
will not be handed over to any third parties or to non-academic use and
all informants will remain strictly anynomous.
Survey URL
http://survey-3.istohuvila.fi/index.php?sid=62924&lang=en
More information about the project may be found at
http://www.istohuvila.fi/library-20http://www.library2pointoh.fi
Best Regards,
Isto Huvila
--
Ph.D., research fellow, lecturer
Information Studies :: Åbo Akademi University
(w) +358-2-2153467 (m) +358-40-5726259
(e) isto.huvila(a)abo.fi (w3) www.istohuvila.fi
I am wondering if there is an extension or other means of determining
when an extension is installed and what pages/articles are dependent
upon it. I see listed at the bottom of pages being edited, the needed
templates & sometimes other things. Is there a way to tell what
extensions a page requires? If one is using some pages or templates from
other wiki sites it would be very helpful to also know what extensions
are required to make that page look correct.
Thanks!
Frosty
Please translate this announcement into other languages and forward it
to other mailing lists and village pumps. (The translators list has
already been notified and will help with this process.)
The Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Germany have collaborated, with
financial support from Wikimedia France, to support development of a
new extension to our software
which makes it possible to flag versions of wiki articles as having
reached a certain quality. This new toolset could mark the beginning
of a new era for Wikipedia and its sister projects, giving readers
more transparency than ever about the quality of a given article. A
special note of thanks to Aaron Schulz, who has developed much of the
functionality as a volunteer -- we would not be where we are today
without him. The ongoing support and patience of Philipp Birken from
the German chapter was also critical.
Before this functionality will be enabled on any Wikimedia project, it
needs to be tested thoroughly for usability, bugs, security and
performance. Test wikis have been set up in English and German
(because the German Wikimedia community has been driving the
development of this functionality from the beginning).
http://en.labs.wikimedia.org/http://de.labs.wikimedia.org/
These wikis contain a copy of the Wikibooks database. This copy is
completely separate from the "real" Wikibooks, so do not worry about
destroying anything of value. Please follow the instructions on the
Main Pages to participate. If you do not speak English or German, we
encourage you right now to
- set up test wikis independently using the open source extension
available from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs ,
or
- change the user interface preference, and create pages in the
English test wiki in your language.
This is due to our limited capacity to set up additional wikis. If you
feel you really, absolutely, strongly need a test wiki in your
language, please file a request through:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/
Wikimedia communities will also have to decide what kind of
configuration to use for their project. Key questions to answer
include:
- What quality attributes should there be?
- Who should be permitted to flag changes as having been reviewed for
vandalism, or for other quality attributes?
- Should the default view for unregistered users change to the "stable
version" on all pages, some pages, or no pages?
The German Wikimedia community has implemented a particular
long-standing community proposal and will probably go live the soonest
with this configuration; other communities will still have to develop
consensus.
== What's next? ==
The test will run at least until April 10, 2008 before the extension
is implemented live on any wiki. This is to allow any serious problems
to be surfaced by the community. If there are no critical open issues
as of April 10, any language/project community will be permitted to
file a request through https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ to activate the
extension. This request will have to point to pages in the project
indicating a consensus to move forward. Detailed instructions to do so
will be posted on the test wikis.
--
Erik Möller
Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation
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Dear All,
I am currently engaged in conducting research on Wikipedia users'
information behaviour and especially the information sources and
services used in contributions.
The purpose of this survey is to map information sources used in writing
and editing Wikipedia articles. The survey is a part of the research
project "Information service 2.0" conducted by myself (Department of
Information Studies, Åbo Akademi University, Finland) as a part of the
Academy of Finland research project "Library 2.0 - a new participatory
context".
The individual answers will be processed strictly confidential, the data
will not be handed over to any third parties or to non-academic use and
all informants will remain strictly anynomous.
Survey URL
http://survey-3.istohuvila.fi/index.php?sid=62924&lang=en
More information about the project may be found at
http://www.istohuvila.fi/library-20http://www.library2pointoh.fi
Best Regards,
Isto Huvila
--
Ph.D., research fellow, lecturer
Information Studies :: Åbo Akademi University
(w) +358-2-2153467 (m) +358-40-5726259
(e) isto.huvila(a)abo.fi (w3) www.istohuvila.fi