During the last UK Chapter AGM, it was asked why the membership numbers had radically changed, there was no specific answer to the question. Was any analysis done on this afterwards? When reviewing membership it seems likely that the charity's trustees would have been concerned at these figures so shortly before the AGM, due to the potential risk of entryism.
Membership jumped from a total of 147 (a five year low) in May 2017, to the all time record high the following month of 498, i.e. new sign-ups that month more than *tripled* the total membership.
A second question - the report of membership numbers has been updated every month for the past five years.[1] It has not been updated since October 2017. Could anyone confirm what the most recent membership numbers are so the report can be updated?
P.S. the links in the FAQ about the register of members are out of date, the companylawclub link is a 404 error and the companieshouse link advises to go to their new website.
Links: 1. https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Membership/Numbers 2. https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Volunteers_-_Frequently_Asked_Questions#Why_do...
Thanks, Fae
Dear Fae,
As was explained at the AGM the increase in the number of members was the result of a successful membership drive.
Regards, Richard Nevell
On 9 Apr 2018 21:34, "Fæ" faewik@gmail.com wrote:
During the last UK Chapter AGM, it was asked why the membership numbers had radically changed, there was no specific answer to the question. Was any analysis done on this afterwards? When reviewing membership it seems likely that the charity's trustees would have been concerned at these figures so shortly before the AGM, due to the potential risk of entryism.
Membership jumped from a total of 147 (a five year low) in May 2017, to the all time record high the following month of 498, i.e. new sign-ups that month more than *tripled* the total membership.
A second question - the report of membership numbers has been updated every month for the past five years.[1] It has not been updated since October 2017. Could anyone confirm what the most recent membership numbers are so the report can be updated?
P.S. the links in the FAQ about the register of members are out of date, the companylawclub link is a 404 error and the companieshouse link advises to go to their new website.
Links: 1. https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Membership/Numbers 2. https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Volunteers_-_Frequently_Asked_Questions#Why_do...
Thanks, Fae -- faewik@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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Yes, at the AGM the tripling of membership numbers was explained as being due to an increase in members joining. No meaningful facts were presented to the members, but the impression given by the Chair and the CEO was that there would be more information publicly available.
My question was "why". Sharing information about any discussion the trustees have had on improving protection against entryism, would be healthy for transparency, as would sharing exactly what happened that caused this massive, overnight, leap in membership totals. Currently, there is zero information on the nature of who joined, which may have been down to how they joined. As an example, if 351 people joined at an academic conference in London, then the people joining would be academics who go to events in London and if the 351 new members were found due to appeals by the CEO on Facebook, then the new members would be limited to people who follow or network with the CEO on Facebook.
It appears that the jump in numbers was a one-off event, there has been no continued growth since whatever happened. Should the chapter start maintaining the published membership report again, then it will be possible for people apart from chapter employees to have access to the latest facts.
Thanks, Fae
On 9 April 2018 at 22:01, Richard Nevell richard.a.j.nevell@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Fae,
As was explained at the AGM the increase in the number of members was the result of a successful membership drive.
Regards, Richard Nevell
On 9 Apr 2018 21:34, "Fæ" faewik@gmail.com wrote:
During the last UK Chapter AGM, it was asked why the membership numbers had radically changed, there was no specific answer to the question. Was any analysis done on this afterwards? When reviewing membership it seems likely that the charity's trustees would have been concerned at these figures so shortly before the AGM, due to the potential risk of entryism.
Membership jumped from a total of 147 (a five year low) in May 2017, to the all time record high the following month of 498, i.e. new sign-ups that month more than *tripled* the total membership.
A second question - the report of membership numbers has been updated every month for the past five years.[1] It has not been updated since October 2017. Could anyone confirm what the most recent membership numbers are so the report can be updated?
P.S. the links in the FAQ about the register of members are out of date, the companylawclub link is a 404 error and the companieshouse link advises to go to their new website.
Links:
https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Volunteers_-_Frequently_Asked_Questions#Why_do...
Thanks, Fae -- faewik@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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On 10 April 2018 at 11:41 Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
It appears that the jump in numbers was a one-off event, there has been no continued growth since whatever happened.
I don't know what happened. I did correspond with the office about a prompt to renew. One could simulate such a "one-off event" by simply asking people whose membership had lapsed to renew. I was doing this sort of thing for WMUK some seven years ago, so as an explanation it is not far-fetched.
Charles
Dear Fae,
My memory could be failing me, but I thought it was explained at the AGM that the increase was a result of asking donors to become members.
It sounds like you are more interested in the 'how' of the process and the 'who' as you seem dissatisfied with the answer to *why* there was an increase. To make sure we're on the same page is that what you meant?
Regards, Richard Nevell
PS. Have you had a chance to look into the issue on Commons with the conflicting licence for some images from the Portable Antiquities Scheme? My question was archived before a reply.
On 10 April 2018 at 11:41, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, at the AGM the tripling of membership numbers was explained as being due to an increase in members joining. No meaningful facts were presented to the members, but the impression given by the Chair and the CEO was that there would be more information publicly available.
My question was "why". Sharing information about any discussion the trustees have had on improving protection against entryism, would be healthy for transparency, as would sharing exactly what happened that caused this massive, overnight, leap in membership totals. Currently, there is zero information on the nature of who joined, which may have been down to how they joined. As an example, if 351 people joined at an academic conference in London, then the people joining would be academics who go to events in London and if the 351 new members were found due to appeals by the CEO on Facebook, then the new members would be limited to people who follow or network with the CEO on Facebook.
It appears that the jump in numbers was a one-off event, there has been no continued growth since whatever happened. Should the chapter start maintaining the published membership report again, then it will be possible for people apart from chapter employees to have access to the latest facts.
Thanks, Fae
On 9 April 2018 at 22:01, Richard Nevell richard.a.j.nevell@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Fae,
As was explained at the AGM the increase in the number of members was the result of a successful membership drive.
Regards, Richard Nevell
On 9 Apr 2018 21:34, "Fæ" faewik@gmail.com wrote:
During the last UK Chapter AGM, it was asked why the membership numbers had radically changed, there was no specific answer to the question. Was any analysis done on this afterwards? When reviewing membership it seems likely that the charity's trustees would have been concerned at these figures so shortly before the AGM, due to the potential risk of entryism.
Membership jumped from a total of 147 (a five year low) in May 2017, to the all time record high the following month of 498, i.e. new sign-ups that month more than *tripled* the total membership.
A second question - the report of membership numbers has been updated every month for the past five years.[1] It has not been updated since October 2017. Could anyone confirm what the most recent membership numbers are so the report can be updated?
P.S. the links in the FAQ about the register of members are out of date, the companylawclub link is a 404 error and the companieshouse link advises to go to their new website.
Links:
https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Volunteers_-_Frequently_Asked_Questions#Why_do...
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