Ah yes, spotted this on my way in this morning. At least it's accurate!
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On 28 June 2012 16:55, Charles Matthews charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.comwrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/pr-firms-urged-not-to-edit-w...
Charles
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Short, too, so complies with rule one: the less you say, the less you can get wrong!
Stevie
On 28 June 2012 17:00, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:
Ah yes, spotted this on my way in this morning. At least it's accurate!
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On 28 June 2012 16:55, Charles Matthews charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.comwrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/pr-firms-urged-not-to-edit-w...
Charles
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On 28 June 2012 17:00, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
On 28 June 2012 16:55, Charles Matthews charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/pr-firms-urged-not-to-edit-w...
Ah yes, spotted this on my way in this morning. At least it's accurate!
Coupla PRs on CREWE are *deeply* upset it says that PR people shouldn't edit, rather than that PRs *with a COI* shouldn't edit. Apparently this is "amoral".
- d.
On 28 June 2012 17:00, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:
Ah yes, spotted this on my way in this morning. At least it's accurate! http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Ish, I thought.
Charles
Are there PRs who edit for their clients without a COI? Serious question!
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On 28 June 2012 17:05, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 28 June 2012 17:00, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
On 28 June 2012 16:55, Charles Matthews <charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com
wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/pr-firms-urged-not-to-edit-w...
Ah yes, spotted this on my way in this morning. At least it's accurate!
Coupla PRs on CREWE are *deeply* upset it says that PR people shouldn't edit, rather than that PRs *with a COI* shouldn't edit. Apparently this is "amoral".
- d.
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On 28 June 2012 17:05, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 28 June 2012 17:00, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
On 28 June 2012 16:55, Charles Matthews <charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com
wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/pr-firms-urged-not-to-edit-w...
Ah yes, spotted this on my way in this morning. At least it's accurate!
Coupla PRs on CREWE are *deeply* upset it says that PR people shouldn't edit, rather than that PRs *with a COI* shouldn't edit. Apparently this is "amoral".
Hmmm, did they get past the executive summary?
Charles
On 28 June 2012 17:14, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:
Are there PRs who edit for their clients without a COI? Serious question!
No in the conventional sense of COI, potentially yes in the WP sense of
COI, or we wouldn't bother with all this?
Charles
With my comms head on (and as an individual, not an employee of WMUK) I would say this is very difficult. The exception in my view would be neutral factual data, such as addresses, date of formation and so on. Even things such as financial information could be seen as a COI, especially if they show their client in a favourable light.
Stevie (as an individual, not as a WMUK employee)
On 28 June 2012 17:14, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:
Are there PRs who edit for their clients without a COI? Serious question!
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On 28 June 2012 17:05, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 28 June 2012 17:00, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
On 28 June 2012 16:55, Charles Matthews <
charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/pr-firms-urged-not-to-edit-w...
Ah yes, spotted this on my way in this morning. At least it's accurate!
Coupla PRs on CREWE are *deeply* upset it says that PR people shouldn't edit, rather than that PRs *with a COI* shouldn't edit. Apparently this is "amoral".
- d.
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Anybody can edit Wikipedia.... that's the mantra!
Gordo
On 28 June 2012 22:15, Gordon Joly gordon.joly@pobox.com wrote:
Anybody can edit Wikipedia.... that's the mantra!
Gordo
We have nearly 4 million articles on everything from Aardvaarks to
Zoroastrianism. PR people are welcome to edit almost any of them, just not the ones that relate to their clients, themselves or their employer, or compete with any of those or are fully protected. So yes PR people are welcome and can edit Wikipedia, provided they come here as volunteers and stay clear of articles where they have a COI.
WSC
On 29/06/12 08:49, WereSpielChequers wrote:
On 28 June 2012 22:15, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly@pobox.com mailto:gordon.joly@pobox.com> wrote:
Anybody can edit Wikipedia.... that's the mantra! GordoWe have nearly 4 million articles on everything from Aardvaarks to Zoroastrianism. PR people are welcome to edit almost any of them, just not the ones that relate to their clients, themselves or their employer, or compete with any of those or are fully protected. So yes PR people are welcome and can edit Wikipedia, provided they come here as volunteers and stay clear of articles where they have a COI.
WSC
COI? What ATG?
Gordo
.......
ATG ==> Axe to Grind
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