Just to alert anyone a journalist has been in touch regarding some reported vandalism to the article about the Hillsborough Disaster = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster
We have explained how it is the community of editors who look after the content and that we have faith in the sound judgement of the community
Just for some context, it's been reported in the Liverpool Echo - http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/hillsborough-wikipedia-in... the Telegraph - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/10786380/Insulting-revisions... so please be aware it's a live story for now.
If you happen to receive any enquiries, please do feel free to send them my way.
Thanks and regards,
Stevie
On 24 April 2014 21:14, Jon Davies jon.davies@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
Just to alert anyone a journalist has been in touch regarding some reported vandalism to the article about the Hillsborough Disaster = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster
We have explained how it is the community of editors who look after the content and that we have faith in the sound judgement of the community
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If you spend a short while looking through the history of the article, you can see that:
1. there has been all sorts of vandalism over the years; 2. Cluebot caught a lot of the vandalism within a minute of it being made; 3. It's well-watched and editors reverted the rest of the vandalism quite quickly; 4, There's no incident of vandalism (that I could see) that remained more than a couple of hours.
In other words, our system works. But that's not news.
For the curious, this edit that started all the newspaper fuss:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hillsborough_disaster&diff=28...
from *gateway-202.energis.gsi.gov.uk http://gateway-202.energis.gsi.gov.uk* lasted just four minutes before being removed by another IP.
I have quoted you on the Hillsborough talk page!
On 25 April 2014 00:43, rexx rexx@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
If you spend a short while looking through the history of the article, you can see that:
- there has been all sorts of vandalism over the years;
- Cluebot caught a lot of the vandalism within a minute of it being made;
- It's well-watched and editors reverted the rest of the vandalism quite
quickly; 4, There's no incident of vandalism (that I could see) that remained more than a couple of hours.
In other words, our system works. But that's not news.
-- Rexx
On 24 April 2014 21:27, Stevie Benton stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:
Just for some context, it's been reported in the Liverpool Echo - http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/hillsborough-wikipedia-in... the Telegraph - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/10786380/Insulting-revisions... so please be aware it's a live story for now.
If you happen to receive any enquiries, please do feel free to send them my way.
Thanks and regards,
Stevie
On 24 April 2014 21:14, Jon Davies jon.davies@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
Just to alert anyone a journalist has been in touch regarding some reported vandalism to the article about the Hillsborough Disaster = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster
We have explained how it is the community of editors who look after the content and that we have faith in the sound judgement of the community
-- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies
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Some more today on the BBC (and probably others):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-27203371
It's currently on the BBC homepage with the description "The charity that represents Wikipedia in the UK has condemned edits made from government computers after more insults and vandalism emerged."
Looks like a good write up (factually accurate) with some choice quotes from Stevie.
Harry
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On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Stevie Benton < stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
Just for some context, it's been reported in the Liverpool Echo - http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/hillsborough-wikipedia-in... the Telegraph - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/10786380/Insulting-revisions... so please be aware it's a live story for now.
If you happen to receive any enquiries, please do feel free to send them my way.
Thanks and regards,
Stevie
On 24 April 2014 21:14, Jon Davies jon.davies@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
Just to alert anyone a journalist has been in touch regarding some reported vandalism to the article about the Hillsborough Disaster = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster
We have explained how it is the community of editors who look after the content and that we have faith in the sound judgement of the community
-- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies
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FWIW, it's not on the actual [[Hillsborough disaster]] page, they removed it unless it turns out to have any relevance or consequence, because it is in fact inane rubbish:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hillsborough_disaster#Removal_of_the_sect...
- d.
There’s a typo of the Wikimedia Foundation - “Wikipedia Foundation” - can someone contact them to fix it?
Vandalism, surely!
Stevie will be on to this but yes he handled this, as did others David, Seddon etc, sensibly.
There was a time when this would be used to knock Wikipedia.
Fingers crossed this will calm down now but you never know.
On 30 April 2014 01:22, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonewiki@gmail.com wrote:
There’s a typo of the Wikimedia Foundation - “Wikipedia Foundation” - can someone contact them to fix it? -- Thehelpfulone https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thehelpfulone
On 30 Apr 2014, at 01:04, Harry Burt harryaburt@gmail.com wrote:
Some more today on the BBC (and probably others):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-27203371
It's currently on the BBC homepage with the description "The charity that represents Wikipedia in the UK has condemned edits made from government computers after more insults and vandalism emerged."
Looks like a good write up (factually accurate) with some choice quotes from Stevie.
Harry
-- Harry Burt (User:Jarry1250)
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Stevie Benton < stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
Just for some context, it's been reported in the Liverpool Echo - http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/hillsborough-wikipedia-in... the Telegraph - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/10786380/Insulting-revisions... so please be aware it's a live story for now.
If you happen to receive any enquiries, please do feel free to send them my way.
Thanks and regards,
Stevie
On 24 April 2014 21:14, Jon Davies jon.davies@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
Just to alert anyone a journalist has been in touch regarding some reported vandalism to the article about the Hillsborough Disaster = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster
We have explained how it is the community of editors who look after the content and that we have faith in the sound judgement of the community
-- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies
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Thanks for sharing the link Harry. I'll pop a note to Dave Lee about the typo now.
Stevie
On 30 April 2014 08:23, Jon Davies jon.davies@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
Vandalism, surely!
Stevie will be on to this but yes he handled this, as did others David, Seddon etc, sensibly.
There was a time when this would be used to knock Wikipedia.
Fingers crossed this will calm down now but you never know.
On 30 April 2014 01:22, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonewiki@gmail.com wrote:
There’s a typo of the Wikimedia Foundation - “Wikipedia Foundation” - can someone contact them to fix it? -- Thehelpfulone https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thehelpfulone
On 30 Apr 2014, at 01:04, Harry Burt harryaburt@gmail.com wrote:
Some more today on the BBC (and probably others):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-27203371
It's currently on the BBC homepage with the description "The charity that represents Wikipedia in the UK has condemned edits made from government computers after more insults and vandalism emerged."
Looks like a good write up (factually accurate) with some choice quotes from Stevie.
Harry
-- Harry Burt (User:Jarry1250)
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Stevie Benton < stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
Just for some context, it's been reported in the Liverpool Echo - http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/hillsborough-wikipedia-in... the Telegraph - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/10786380/Insulting-revisions... so please be aware it's a live story for now.
If you happen to receive any enquiries, please do feel free to send them my way.
Thanks and regards,
Stevie
On 24 April 2014 21:14, Jon Davies jon.davies@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
Just to alert anyone a journalist has been in touch regarding some reported vandalism to the article about the Hillsborough Disaster = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster
We have explained how it is the community of editors who look after the content and that we have faith in the sound judgement of the community
-- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies
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On 30 Apr 2014, at 01:04, Harry Burt wrote:
Some more today on the BBC (and probably others): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-27203371 [14]
Its currently on the BBC homepage with the description "The charity that represents Wikipedia in the UK has condemned edits made from government computers after more insults and vandalism emerged."
This is what they've got from two IP addresses? Or, can we take it that: "Government machines were also used to vandalise, or "troll", on several pages, including: [...]" means the press are chasing other GSI addresses?
Looks like a good write up (factually accurate) with some choice quotes from Stevie.
On 30.04.2014 03:23, Jon Davies wrote:
Vandalism, surely!
Yes, and yes.
There was a time when this would be used to knock Wikipedia. Fingers crossed this will calm down now but you never know.
The UK's tech press, including the BBC, are now capable of having as much fun as we did with the US government[1]. I wonder how good they are at finding out more IPs, and linking them up to government departments, or offices.
[1] http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews_investigates_Wikipedia_usage_by_U.S._Se...
I'm pretty sure we will hear more over the coming days. There's bound to be all sorts of journalists having a play around with the various history tabs and user IDs, especially after David Gerard spoke about them so eloquently on FiveLive on Friday!
I dropped a note to Dave Lee and he's going to make the amend noted above. He also mentioned the piece was featured on the Today programme, too. Will see if I can find it.
On 30 April 2014 09:17, Brian McNeil brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
On 30 Apr 2014, at 01:04, Harry Burt wrote:
Some more today on the BBC (and probably others):
Its currently on the BBC homepage with the description "The
charity that represents Wikipedia in the UK has condemned edits made from government computers after more insults and vandalism emerged."
This is what they've got from two IP addresses? Or, can we take it that: "Government machines were also used to vandalise, or "troll", on several pages, including: [...]" means the press are chasing other GSI addresses?
Looks like a good write up (factually accurate) with some choice
quotes from Stevie.
On 30.04.2014 03:23, Jon Davies wrote:
Vandalism, surely!
Yes, and yes.
There was a time when this would be used to knock Wikipedia.
Fingers crossed this will calm down now but you never know.
The UK's tech press, including the BBC, are now capable of having as much fun as we did with the US government[1]. I wonder how good they are at finding out more IPs, and linking them up to government departments, or offices.
[1] http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews_investigates_ Wikipedia_usage_by_U.S._Senate_staff_members
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I heard a brief mention between 6 and 7.
On 30 April 2014 09:21, Stevie Benton stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:
I'm pretty sure we will hear more over the coming days. There's bound to be all sorts of journalists having a play around with the various history tabs and user IDs, especially after David Gerard spoke about them so eloquently on FiveLive on Friday!
I dropped a note to Dave Lee and he's going to make the amend noted above. He also mentioned the piece was featured on the Today programme, too. Will see if I can find it.
On 30 April 2014 09:17, Brian McNeil brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
On 30 Apr 2014, at 01:04, Harry Burt wrote:
Some more today on the BBC (and probably others):
Its currently on the BBC homepage with the description "The
charity that represents Wikipedia in the UK has condemned edits made from government computers after more insults and vandalism emerged."
This is what they've got from two IP addresses? Or, can we take it that: "Government machines were also used to vandalise, or "troll", on several pages, including: [...]" means the press are chasing other GSI addresses?
Looks like a good write up (factually accurate) with some choice
quotes from Stevie.
On 30.04.2014 03:23, Jon Davies wrote:
Vandalism, surely!
Yes, and yes.
There was a time when this would be used to knock Wikipedia.
Fingers crossed this will calm down now but you never know.
The UK's tech press, including the BBC, are now capable of having as much fun as we did with the US government[1]. I wonder how good they are at finding out more IPs, and linking them up to government departments, or offices.
[1] http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews_investigates_ Wikipedia_usage_by_U.S._Senate_staff_members
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