I think we need to look at the sort of things we want out of a venue:
- Not too noisy - Decent food/drink, but not too expensive - Spacious rather than cramped (particularly important for people with children) - Ideally, a children's play area attached - Near railway station for people out of town and with parking not to far away for those who still drive cars.
Perhaps there are some other points that could be added.I am not sure about public Wifi asI am getting increasingly nervous about security issues as regards this. However, perhaps we can organise Wikimifis for the occasion.
all the best all the best
Fabian Tompsett, Volunteer Support Organiser, Wikimedia UK, Address: 56-64 Leonard St, Shoreditch, London EC2A 4LT Phone:020 7065 0990
How about Sure Start Centres - often empty at the weekend. I used to run them and if a trusted outside organisation offered to do some training for the parents it mught be a good contra deal. Depends on making a relationship with the local manager. Or a local secondary school where again the students could be invited along.
On 30 September 2014 11:37, Fabian Tompsett < fabian.tompsett@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
I think we need to look at the sort of things we want out of a venue:
- Not too noisy
- Decent food/drink, but not too expensive
- Spacious rather than cramped (particularly important for people with
children)
- Ideally, a children's play area attached
- Near railway station for people out of town and with parking not to
far away for those who still drive cars.
Perhaps there are some other points that could be added.I am not sure about public Wifi asI am getting increasingly nervous about security issues as regards this. However, perhaps we can organise Wikimifis for the occasion.
all the best all the best
Fabian Tompsett, Volunteer Support Organiser, Wikimedia UK, Address: 56-64 Leonard St, Shoreditch, London EC2A 4LT Phone:020 7065 0990
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On 30/09/14 12:41, Jon Davies wrote:
Or a local secondary school where again the students could be invited along.
Spotlight, for example?
Gordo
I could volunteer for one at spotlight - given that it's nextdoor to my house...
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On 30 September 2014 14:10, Gordon Joly gordon.joly@pobox.com wrote:
On 30/09/14 12:41, Jon Davies wrote:
Or a local secondary school where again the students could be invited
along.
Spotlight, for example?
Gordo
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If we are willing to pay a modest amount there are lots of venues that we can have quite cheaply. But aside from not spending money, the advantage to my mind of large pubs on their quiet days is that not having to arrange anything with the venue means a lot less work for the event organiser.
Three other things I would add to Fabian's list, disability access, them not minding if we stay on for several hours, sometimes with only one or two people nursing beers, and separate bills or pay as you order. The pub we use in London fits that criteria pretty well, though four minutes walk from Holborn tube isn't the best connected place in London. My experience of cafes is that they are less likely to tolerate a large group that is long past the point of spending money, I also don't fancy trying to work out a bill at the end, much better to have people purchase from the bar as they order - different cafes seem to have differing systems for this and the one Charles uses in Cambridge is great.
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On 30 September 2014 12:41, Jon Davies jon.davies@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
How about Sure Start Centres - often empty at the weekend. I used to run them and if a trusted outside organisation offered to do some training for the parents it mught be a good contra deal. Depends on making a relationship with the local manager. Or a local secondary school where again the students could be invited along.
On 30 September 2014 11:37, Fabian Tompsett < fabian.tompsett@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
I think we need to look at the sort of things we want out of a venue:
- Not too noisy
- Decent food/drink, but not too expensive
- Spacious rather than cramped (particularly important for people
with children)
- Ideally, a children's play area attached
- Near railway station for people out of town and with parking not to
far away for those who still drive cars.
Perhaps there are some other points that could be added.I am not sure about public Wifi asI am getting increasingly nervous about security issues as regards this. However, perhaps we can organise Wikimifis for the occasion.
all the best all the best
Fabian Tompsett, Volunteer Support Organiser, Wikimedia UK, Address: 56-64 Leonard St, Shoreditch, London EC2A 4LT Phone:020 7065 0990
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I'm still concerned that this is a bit too close to the current "men with beards in real ale pubs" model, and doesn't do much to encourage those people who don't have beards...
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On 1 October 2014 10:32, Jonathan Cardy jonathan.cardy@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
If we are willing to pay a modest amount there are lots of venues that we can have quite cheaply. But aside from not spending money, the advantage to my mind of large pubs on their quiet days is that not having to arrange anything with the venue means a lot less work for the event organiser.
Three other things I would add to Fabian's list, disability access, them not minding if we stay on for several hours, sometimes with only one or two people nursing beers, and separate bills or pay as you order. The pub we use in London fits that criteria pretty well, though four minutes walk from Holborn tube isn't the best connected place in London. My experience of cafes is that they are less likely to tolerate a large group that is long past the point of spending money, I also don't fancy trying to work out a bill at the end, much better to have people purchase from the bar as they order - different cafes seem to have differing systems for this and the one Charles uses in Cambridge is great.
Regards
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On 30 September 2014 12:41, Jon Davies jon.davies@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
How about Sure Start Centres - often empty at the weekend. I used to run them and if a trusted outside organisation offered to do some training for the parents it mught be a good contra deal. Depends on making a relationship with the local manager. Or a local secondary school where again the students could be invited along.
On 30 September 2014 11:37, Fabian Tompsett < fabian.tompsett@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
I think we need to look at the sort of things we want out of a venue:
- Not too noisy
- Decent food/drink, but not too expensive
- Spacious rather than cramped (particularly important for people
with children)
- Ideally, a children's play area attached
- Near railway station for people out of town and with parking not
to far away for those who still drive cars.
Perhaps there are some other points that could be added.I am not sure about public Wifi asI am getting increasingly nervous about security issues as regards this. However, perhaps we can organise Wikimifis for the occasion.
all the best all the best
Fabian Tompsett, Volunteer Support Organiser, Wikimedia UK, Address: 56-64 Leonard St, Shoreditch, London EC2A 4LT Phone:020 7065 0990
Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
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On 1 October 2014 10:55, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
I'm still concerned that this is a bit too close to the current "men with beards in real ale pubs" model, and doesn't do much to encourage those people who don't have beards...
There must be an Occam's razor joke in here somewhere.
The office seems to be angling for lightweight training events, but that is not what meetups have been, since long before there was a chapter. So WMUK would like to "multiply entities", but local organisers will do their own thing.
I have said my bit on pubs, contra a London meetup participant who clearly thought the Queen Vic was the model, rather than the nearest Wetherspoons.
Charles
"London Wiki Wednesdays" used to rotate around various offices in Central London (zero cost, I believe). Added to that was a "beer and pizza" sponsor, who would get a chance to advertise for a few minutes.
The Penderel's Oak was meetup 2, following on from meetup 1 was St. James's Park.
Gordo
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