Some good suggestions, feel free to open discussion here: http://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Brainstorming
On 20 August 2013 11:16, wikimediauk-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
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- Wikimania 2014: On journalism (brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org)
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 02:22:07 -0400 From: brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org To: "wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org" wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: UK Wikimedia mailing wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014: On journalism Message-ID: 20130820022207.10354rhl1uv7kbnz@webmail.wikinewsie.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed"
We're looking a year ahead, so we should have plenty of time to sort things out. But, the UK has some particularly-talented Wikinewsies (I'm looking at Iain Macdonald, Tom Morris and Paul Williams in particular).
It would be short-sighted, in the extreme, not to ask the UK-resident Wikinewsies to get involved. Given the direction I've seen Paul heading off in (to Wikinews' great loss) I suspect he would make a great 'Head of Broadcasting' for next year's Wikimania; and, with Wikimedia UK's support, could help make sure Wikimania 2014 is the 'most-online' annual conference to-date. [All sessions webcast live, all recordings thereof online faster than the BBC does with iPlayer.]
The major snag for me, a Wikinewsie in Edinburgh, is it looks-like Wikimania 2014 clashes with the Edinburgh Festival and Fringe. (I already have interest from a local community Radio station, which might lead to free use of high-end gear, and a few other things in-the-works).
But, anyone who is planning to travel to the UK for Wikimania should bear that in-mind!
If you want to come up to The Athens of The North, post-conference, start looking at those accommodation bookings right now. Otherwise, you'll be camping somewhere in the vicinity of Arthur's Seat.
Regardless, and no-matter how hard Wikimedia UK tries to promote their London Wikimania, I can promise you "us lot up in Scotland" will keep knocking you off the front page when it comes to headlines in the press. Does anyone else have some 'creative ideas' about Wikimania 2014 having a 'token presence' in Edinburgh? (The Fringe venue I want to 'hijack' is close-enough to the Edinburgh Uni CS facilities I was hacking - 25 years ago - that, we could run an armoured fibre straight into JANET).
It's simply too-good an opportunity to miss. And, where I strongly agree with the broad-criticisms Jimmy made of mainstream media in his HK keynote, I know that "the news division of the WMF" (i.e. Wikinews) could wipe the floor with the Mainstream on the independence debate.
Brian.
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 10:16:06 +0100 From: Toni Sant toni.sant@wikimedia.org.uk To: UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014: On journalism Message-ID: <CAKYVc0m5y=zVFy2j43vu_N7Uwq7= 6iJZ9Dfrx1h24KK0yvUs1g@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Brian -
Is the fact that Wikimedia UK is currently supporting a Wikimedian in Residence at the National Library of Scotland of any relevance to developing your idea? See
http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2013/08/a-month-as-wikimedian-in-residence-at-t...
More than this, I'd be very interesting in supporting you and/or any other volunteers in Scotland (or anywhere in the UK for that matter) to explore ways to bring journalism students at all levels to Wikinews. I'd be more than happy to strike up a conversation about this on this mailing list, or any other way that's appropriate -- there's even room for a possible roundtable discussion about this at the upcoming EduWiki conference. Just let me know.
Incidentally, this idea I'm proposing is greatly inspired by the wonderful work that Dr. Chad Tew, who is an associate professor of journalism at the University of Southern Indiana. See http://en-wp.com /wiki/User:Crtew -- it would be really great if something like this was developed in Scotland and/or anywhere else in the UK
Kind regards,
Toni
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On 20 August 2013 07:22, brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
We're looking a year ahead, so we should have plenty of time to sort things out. But, the UK has some particularly-talented Wikinewsies (I'm looking at Iain Macdonald, Tom Morris and Paul Williams in particular).
It would be short-sighted, in the extreme, not to ask the UK-resident Wikinewsies to get involved. Given the direction I've seen Paul heading
off
in (to Wikinews' great loss) I suspect he would make a great 'Head of Broadcasting' for next year's Wikimania; and, with Wikimedia UK's
support,
could help make sure Wikimania 2014 is the 'most-online' annual
conference
to-date. [All sessions webcast live, all recordings thereof online faster than the BBC does with iPlayer.]
The major snag for me, a Wikinewsie in Edinburgh, is it looks-like Wikimania 2014 clashes with the Edinburgh Festival and Fringe. (I already have interest from a local community Radio station, which might lead to free use of high-end gear, and a few other things in-the-works).
But, anyone who is planning to travel to the UK for Wikimania should bear that in-mind!
If you want to come up to The Athens of The North, post-conference, start looking at those accommodation bookings right now. Otherwise, you'll be camping somewhere in the vicinity of Arthur's Seat.
Regardless, and no-matter how hard Wikimedia UK tries to promote their London Wikimania, I can promise you "us lot up in Scotland" will keep knocking you off the front page when it comes to headlines in the press. Does anyone else have some 'creative ideas' about Wikimania 2014 having a 'token presence' in Edinburgh? (The Fringe venue I want to 'hijack' is close-enough to the Edinburgh Uni CS facilities I was hacking - 25 years ago - that, we could run an armoured fibre straight into JANET).
It's simply too-good an opportunity to miss. And, where I strongly agree with the broad-criticisms Jimmy made of mainstream media in his HK
keynote,
I know that "the news division of the WMF" (i.e. Wikinews) could wipe the floor with the Mainstream on the independence debate.
Brian.
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