Hi all,
Does anyone watch University Challenge? I've heard a rumour that a round of questions was focused on the Wikipedia puzzle globe symbols around the 26th July 2010 - can anyone confirm or deny this?
Thanks, Mike
I have a copy of it! I filmed it!
- Hampton
On 3 Aug 2010, at 09:47 PM, Michael Peel email@mikepeel.net wrote:
Hi all,
Does anyone watch University Challenge? I've heard a rumour that a round of questions was focused on the Wikipedia puzzle globe symbols around the 26th July 2010 - can anyone confirm or deny this?
Thanks, Mike
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On 03/08/2010 21:47, Michael Peel wrote:
Hi all,
Does anyone watch University Challenge? I've heard a rumour that a round of questions was focused on the Wikipedia puzzle globe symbols around the 26th July 2010 - can anyone confirm or deny this?
Thanks, Mike
Yes, it was. Question was to name some of the language, as I recall.
Gordo
I can do everyone one-better!
http://hamptoncatlin.com/unichallenge.ogg
I recorded it!
-hampton.
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Gordon Joly gordon.joly@pobox.com wrote:
On 03/08/2010 21:47, Michael Peel wrote:
Hi all,
Does anyone watch University Challenge? I've heard a rumour that a round of questions was focused on the Wikipedia puzzle globe symbols around the 26th July 2010 - can anyone confirm or deny this?
Thanks, Mike
Yes, it was. Question was to name some of the language, as I recall.
Gordo
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On 4 August 2010 14:09, Hampton Catlin hcatlin@wikimedia.org wrote:
I can do everyone one-better!
http://hamptoncatlin.com/unichallenge.ogg
I recorded it!
And disregarded copyright in posting it online?
...seriously?
A fair-use of BBC material in my mind!
And I'm not publishing it anywhere else except internally to wmf people.
-hampton.
PS: Speaking of that... I don't even know how many people are on this particular list!
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
On 4 August 2010 14:09, Hampton Catlin hcatlin@wikimedia.org wrote:
I can do everyone one-better!
http://hamptoncatlin.com/unichallenge.ogg
I recorded it!
And disregarded copyright in posting it online?
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On 4 August 2010 19:19, Hampton Catlin hcatlin@wikimedia.org wrote:
...seriously?
Yes, seriously. There is a perception that the free software/free content movement is all about wilfully ignoring copyright and we should be very careful not to provide support for that perception.
A fair-use of BBC material in my mind!
I don't see how it is fair use. Just because it's a short clip doesn't automatically make it fair use. You didn't critique or review the work, you just copied it so that other people could see it.
And I'm not publishing it anywhere else except internally to wmf people.
This is a public mailing list. You don't need to be subscribed to read it.
I apologize to everyone in the group for so blatantly violating the copyright of the BBC.
The clip has been removed. I shall notify staff-l of the removal.
Next time, I should begin negotiations with the content owners before doing anything entertaining.
-hampton.
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
On 4 August 2010 19:19, Hampton Catlin hcatlin@wikimedia.org wrote:
...seriously?
Yes, seriously. There is a perception that the free software/free content movement is all about wilfully ignoring copyright and we should be very careful not to provide support for that perception.
A fair-use of BBC material in my mind!
I don't see how it is fair use. Just because it's a short clip doesn't automatically make it fair use. You didn't critique or review the work, you just copied it so that other people could see it.
And I'm not publishing it anywhere else except internally to wmf people.
This is a public mailing list. You don't need to be subscribed to read it.
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On 4 August 2010 20:44, Hampton Catlin hcatlin@wikimedia.org wrote:
I apologize to everyone in the group for so blatantly violating the copyright of the BBC.
The clip has been removed. I shall notify staff-l of the removal.
Next time, I should begin negotiations with the content owners before doing anything entertaining.
:-)
Hampton,
Thomas is right in what he says - but don't fret about it. There's a whole youtube of copyvios out there. ;-)
Cormac
On 04/08/2010 20:44, Hampton Catlin wrote:
Next time, I should begin negotiations with the content owners before doing anything entertaining.
Copyright is so complex!
Gordo
On 5 August 2010 10:18, Stephen Tilley stephen@tilley.net wrote:
Do we know if the BBC asked for permission to use another organisation's logo in this way?
I don't see why they would need to. There is certainly no trademark violation, since the way it was used couldn't confuse anyone into thinking the BBC was associated with Wikipedia, and think the fair use exemption to copyright would apply (they are essentially providing commentary on the logo).
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 14:07 +0100, Thomas Dalton wrote:
On 5 August 2010 10:18, Stephen Tilley stephen@tilley.net wrote:
Do we know if the BBC asked for permission to use another organisation's logo in this way?
I don't see why they would need to. There is certainly no trademark violation, since the way it was used couldn't confuse anyone into thinking the BBC was associated with Wikipedia, and think the fair use exemption to copyright would apply (they are essentially providing commentary on the logo).
This is not the United States of America. It is *fair dealing*, not fair use.
But, yes. Essentially Thomas is correct.
On 5 August 2010 22:23, Brian McNeil brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 14:07 +0100, Thomas Dalton wrote:
On 5 August 2010 10:18, Stephen Tilley stephen@tilley.net wrote:
Do we know if the BBC asked for permission to use another organisation's logo in this way?
I don't see why they would need to. There is certainly no trademark violation, since the way it was used couldn't confuse anyone into thinking the BBC was associated with Wikipedia, and think the fair use exemption to copyright would apply (they are essentially providing commentary on the logo).
This is not the United States of America. It is *fair dealing*, not fair use.
Indeed. I'm in the habit of speaking American so as not to confuse their little minds! ;) I need to break that habit when emailing the UK list...
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