Just a note for the World War I buffs amongst you - there's quite an interesting plan by Oxford University to crowdsource a livetweet of the Battle of Arras. More info here: http://ww1centenary.oucs.ox.ac.uk/?p=253
I'm planning to take part and other Wikimedians would be very welcome.
You might notice that the organisers have taken a licensing approach of putting the eventual resource they are creating from this initiative under CC-BY-NC, but nevertheless encouraging participants to digitise their own materials and put them on Commons. So that's 50% right ;-)
Chris
I think we should make a real effort to explain the pros and cons of the various CC licenses and what they actually mean for copyright holders and re-users. I think many choices of licenses like NC are born out of a lack of understanding, and people might be more receptive to CC-By-SA if they understood it better.
I could be wrong, but that's my general impression.
Harry
________________________________ From: Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, 29 March 2012, 17:49 Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Livetweeting the Battle of Arras (1917)
Just a note for the World War I buffs amongst you - there's quite an interesting plan by Oxford University to crowdsource a livetweet of the Battle of Arras. More info here: http://ww1centenary.oucs.ox.ac.uk/?p=253
I'm planning to take part and other Wikimedians would be very welcome.
You might notice that the organisers have taken a licensing approach of putting the eventual resource they are creating from this initiative under CC-BY-NC, but nevertheless encouraging participants to digitise their own materials and put them on Commons. So that's 50% right ;-)
Chris
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Oh, don't worry, we do! And we're not alone - many of the digital staff working in various institutions are very open to this, as are some funders of them (e.g. Europeana)
Of course the best possible sell is showing what could be done with material once it was released... :)
On Thursday, March 29, 2012, HJ Mitchell hjmitchell@ymail.com wrote:
I think we should make a real effort to explain the pros and cons of the
various CC licenses and what they actually mean for copyright holders and re-users. I think many choices of licenses like NC are born out of a lack of understanding, and people might be more receptive to CC-By-SA if they understood it better.
I could be wrong, but that's my general impression. Harry ________________________________ From: Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, 29 March 2012, 17:49 Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Livetweeting the Battle of Arras (1917)
Just a note for the World War I buffs amongst you - there's quite an
interesting plan by Oxford University to crowdsource a livetweet of the Battle of Arras. More info here: http://ww1centenary.oucs.ox.ac.uk/?p=253
I'm planning to take part and other Wikimedians would be very welcome. You might notice that the organisers have taken a licensing approach of
putting the eventual resource they are creating from this initiative under CC-BY-NC, but nevertheless encouraging participants to digitise their own materials and put them on Commons. So that's 50% right ;-)
Chris
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Nice. :-) Was this spontaneous on their part, or was there behind-the-scenes discussions here?
Thanks, Mike
On 29 Mar 2012, at 18:33, Chris Keating wrote:
Oh, don't worry, we do! And we're not alone - many of the digital staff working in various institutions are very open to this, as are some funders of them (e.g. Europeana)
Of course the best possible sell is showing what could be done with material once it was released... :)
On Thursday, March 29, 2012, HJ Mitchell hjmitchell@ymail.com wrote:
I think we should make a real effort to explain the pros and cons of the various CC licenses and what they actually mean for copyright holders and re-users. I think many choices of licenses like NC are born out of a lack of understanding, and people might be more receptive to CC-By-SA if they understood it better. I could be wrong, but that's my general impression. Harry ________________________________ From: Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, 29 March 2012, 17:49 Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Livetweeting the Battle of Arras (1917)
Just a note for the World War I buffs amongst you - there's quite an interesting plan by Oxford University to crowdsource a livetweet of the Battle of Arras. More info here: http://ww1centenary.oucs.ox.ac.uk/?p=253 I'm planning to take part and other Wikimedians would be very welcome. You might notice that the organisers have taken a licensing approach of putting the eventual resource they are creating from this initiative under CC-BY-NC, but nevertheless encouraging participants to digitise their own materials and put them on Commons. So that's 50% right ;-) Chris
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On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Michael Peel <michael.peel@wikimedia.org.uk
wrote:
Nice. :-) Was this spontaneous on their part, or was there behind-the-scenes discussions here?
Actually it's a sign of the way things are going! There are lots of people in "digital engagement" jobs who are themselves quite signed up to the idea of open knowledge, aided by bodies like JISC and Europeana which insist on / encourage various levels of openness.
So often I think we end up talking to people whose institutions are cautious about losing the NC bit of CC-BY-NC, and we can help them win their internal arguments within those institutions by proving that if they release material on CC-BY-SA there will be high-impact uses of it...
Chris
I know some of the relevant folks through one of my day jobs, and I've encouraged them to think about Wikipedia/Wikimedia through mailing lists/ talks and so on. This included corresponding with the WW1 Centenary project's developer, Pat Lockley, about the MediaWiki API. Since then, Pat has created http://ww1centenary.oucs.ox.ac.uk/space-into-place/all-quiet-on-the-wikipedi... . So my and others' behind-the-scenes discussions may have helped get people thinking about our approach.
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Michael Peel michael.peel@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
Nice. :-) Was this spontaneous on their part, or was there behind-the-scenes discussions here?
Thanks, Mike
On 29 Mar 2012, at 18:33, Chris Keating wrote:
Oh, don't worry, we do! And we're not alone - many of the digital staff working in various institutions are very open to this, as are some funders of them (e.g. Europeana)
Of course the best possible sell is showing what could be done with material once it was released... :)
On Thursday, March 29, 2012, HJ Mitchell hjmitchell@ymail.com wrote:
I think we should make a real effort to explain the pros and cons of the various CC licenses and what they actually mean for copyright holders and re-users. I think many choices of licenses like NC are born out of a lack of understanding, and people might be more receptive to CC-By-SA if they understood it better. I could be wrong, but that's my general impression. Harry ________________________________ From: Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, 29 March 2012, 17:49 Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Livetweeting the Battle of Arras (1917)
Just a note for the World War I buffs amongst you - there's quite an interesting plan by Oxford University to crowdsource a livetweet of the Battle of Arras. More info here: http://ww1centenary.oucs.ox.ac.uk/?p=253 I'm planning to take part and other Wikimedians would be very welcome. You might notice that the organisers have taken a licensing approach of putting the eventual resource they are creating from this initiative under CC-BY-NC, but nevertheless encouraging participants to digitise their own materials and put them on Commons. So that's 50% right ;-) Chris
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I know some of the relevant folks through one of my day jobs, and I've encouraged them to think about Wikipedia/Wikimedia through mailing lists/ talks and so on. This included corresponding with the WW1 Centenary project's developer, Pat Lockley, about the MediaWiki API. Since then, Pat has created
http://ww1centenary.oucs.ox.ac.uk/space-into-place/all-quiet-on-the-wikipedi... . So my and others' behind-the-scenes discussions may have helped get people thinking about our approach.
Good stuff. It's interesting that some institutions are now encountering us in a number of different ways - I think it shows we're gradually becoming part of the landscape.
I had somehow missed that blog post, but it's very interesting - I have left a comment - thanks for pointing it out!
Chris
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