For those interested in this proposed EU copyright change, and with access to the BBC IPlayer (it may only work in the UK), I suggest reviewing today's Daily Politics show.[1] The position of the Labour party MEP (Mary Honeyball) is to support new restrictions on Freedom of Panorama (she gives a good 2 minute explanation of why the proposed amendment is a great thing), while the UKIP Culture Spokesman (Peter Whittle) is set against.
The arguments on both sides are reasoned but slightly confused, with some errors creeping in. However these sound-bite cases for both sides are worth thinking through if attempting to provide MEPs with lobbying comments or better case studies and briefing material.[2] I'm surprised to see a Labour politician arguing to damage the UK's current Freedom of Panorama, it feels like a future vote loser to me, especially in the light of the ever looming UK referendum on whether to stay in the EU.[3]
Links 1. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b060kp1r - go to 52 minutes into the programme, available on-line for a month from broadcast. 2. http://www.europarl.org.uk/en/your-meps.html - contact details for UK MEPs, Honeyball can be found under London. 3. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32810887
Fae
To be honest, Honeyball is wrong on a lot of stuff. Seems to be her defining trait.
Sarah
On 23 Jun 2015, at 23:38, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
For those interested in this proposed EU copyright change, and with access to the BBC IPlayer (it may only work in the UK), I suggest reviewing today's Daily Politics show.[1] The position of the Labour party MEP (Mary Honeyball) is to support new restrictions on Freedom of Panorama (she gives a good 2 minute explanation of why the proposed amendment is a great thing), while the UKIP Culture Spokesman (Peter Whittle) is set against.
The arguments on both sides are reasoned but slightly confused, with some errors creeping in. However these sound-bite cases for both sides are worth thinking through if attempting to provide MEPs with lobbying comments or better case studies and briefing material.[2] I'm surprised to see a Labour politician arguing to damage the UK's current Freedom of Panorama, it feels like a future vote loser to me, especially in the light of the ever looming UK referendum on whether to stay in the EU.[3]
Links
- http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b060kp1r - go to 52 minutes into
the programme, available on-line for a month from broadcast. 2. http://www.europarl.org.uk/en/your-meps.html - contact details for UK MEPs, Honeyball can be found under London. 3. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32810887
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A couple of *very* strong pieces in The Times tomorrow.
-- James.
On 23/06/2015 23:38, Fæ wrote:
For those interested in this proposed EU copyright change, and with access to the BBC IPlayer (it may only work in the UK), I suggest reviewing today's Daily Politics show.[1] The position of the Labour party MEP (Mary Honeyball) is to support new restrictions on Freedom of Panorama (she gives a good 2 minute explanation of why the proposed amendment is a great thing), while the UKIP Culture Spokesman (Peter Whittle) is set against.
The arguments on both sides are reasoned but slightly confused, with some errors creeping in. However these sound-bite cases for both sides are worth thinking through if attempting to provide MEPs with lobbying comments or better case studies and briefing material.[2] I'm surprised to see a Labour politician arguing to damage the UK's current Freedom of Panorama, it feels like a future vote loser to me, especially in the light of the ever looming UK referendum on whether to stay in the EU.[3]
Links
- http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b060kp1r - go to 52 minutes into
the programme, available on-line for a month from broadcast. 2. http://www.europarl.org.uk/en/your-meps.html - contact details for UK MEPs, Honeyball can be found under London. 3. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32810887
Fae
Too bad I'm in Germany and cannot listen to the statements. It would be helpful to have a list of arguments of the Freedom of Panorama opponents, isn't it?
--Sebastian
Am 24.06.2015 00:38 schrieb Fæ:
For those interested in this proposed EU copyright change, and with access to the BBC IPlayer (it may only work in the UK), I suggest reviewing today's Daily Politics show.[1] The position of the Labour party MEP (Mary Honeyball) is to support new restrictions on Freedom of Panorama (she gives a good 2 minute explanation of why the proposed amendment is a great thing), while the UKIP Culture Spokesman (Peter Whittle) is set against.
The arguments on both sides are reasoned but slightly confused, with some errors creeping in. However these sound-bite cases for both sides are worth thinking through if attempting to provide MEPs with lobbying comments or better case studies and briefing material.[2] I'm surprised to see a Labour politician arguing to damage the UK's current Freedom of Panorama, it feels like a future vote loser to me, especially in the light of the ever looming UK referendum on whether to stay in the EU.[3]
Links
- http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b060kp1r - go to 52 minutes into
the programme, available on-line for a month from broadcast. 2. http://www.europarl.org.uk/en/your-meps.html - contact details for UK MEPs, Honeyball can be found under London. 3. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32810887
Fae
Hi team WMUK, I'm planning to write a letter to my MEP(s) about this. Has anyone written one already and can share it? Deryck
On 23 June 2015 at 23:38, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
For those interested in this proposed EU copyright change, and with access to the BBC IPlayer (it may only work in the UK), I suggest reviewing today's Daily Politics show.[1] The position of the Labour party MEP (Mary Honeyball) is to support new restrictions on Freedom of Panorama (she gives a good 2 minute explanation of why the proposed amendment is a great thing), while the UKIP Culture Spokesman (Peter Whittle) is set against.
The arguments on both sides are reasoned but slightly confused, with some errors creeping in. However these sound-bite cases for both sides are worth thinking through if attempting to provide MEPs with lobbying comments or better case studies and briefing material.[2] I'm surprised to see a Labour politician arguing to damage the UK's current Freedom of Panorama, it feels like a future vote loser to me, especially in the light of the ever looming UK referendum on whether to stay in the EU.[3]
Links
- http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b060kp1r - go to 52 minutes into
the programme, available on-line for a month from broadcast. 2. http://www.europarl.org.uk/en/your-meps.html - contact details for UK MEPs, Honeyball can be found under London. 3. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32810887
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Hi Deryck
I wrote one on Sunday (before Honeyball had spoken on e.g. the BBC) http://sjgknight.com/finding-knowledge/2015/06/freedom-of-panorama-savefop/ It could definitely be improved but it might help as a start. Do let me know if any useful links especially re: the issues of ‘NC’
Best
Simon
From: wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Deryck Chan Sent: 24 June 2015 13:39 To: UK Wikimedia mailing list Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK positions on the proposed harmonization of Freedom of Panorama in Europe
Hi team WMUK,
I'm planning to write a letter to my MEP(s) about this. Has anyone written one already and can share it?
Deryck
On 23 June 2015 at 23:38, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
For those interested in this proposed EU copyright change, and with access to the BBC IPlayer (it may only work in the UK), I suggest reviewing today's Daily Politics show.[1] The position of the Labour party MEP (Mary Honeyball) is to support new restrictions on Freedom of Panorama (she gives a good 2 minute explanation of why the proposed amendment is a great thing), while the UKIP Culture Spokesman (Peter Whittle) is set against.
The arguments on both sides are reasoned but slightly confused, with some errors creeping in. However these sound-bite cases for both sides are worth thinking through if attempting to provide MEPs with lobbying comments or better case studies and briefing material.[2] I'm surprised to see a Labour politician arguing to damage the UK's current Freedom of Panorama, it feels like a future vote loser to me, especially in the light of the ever looming UK referendum on whether to stay in the EU.[3]
Links 1. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b060kp1r - go to 52 minutes into the programme, available on-line for a month from broadcast. 2. http://www.europarl.org.uk/en/your-meps.html - contact details for UK MEPs, Honeyball can be found under London. 3. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32810887
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I think Stevie Benton is working on a letter to MEPs. As far as I know it's at a drafting stage.
Richard
On 24 June 2015 at 13:39, Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
Hi team WMUK, I'm planning to write a letter to my MEP(s) about this. Has anyone written one already and can share it? Deryck
On 23 June 2015 at 23:38, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
For those interested in this proposed EU copyright change, and with access to the BBC IPlayer (it may only work in the UK), I suggest reviewing today's Daily Politics show.[1] The position of the Labour party MEP (Mary Honeyball) is to support new restrictions on Freedom of Panorama (she gives a good 2 minute explanation of why the proposed amendment is a great thing), while the UKIP Culture Spokesman (Peter Whittle) is set against.
The arguments on both sides are reasoned but slightly confused, with some errors creeping in. However these sound-bite cases for both sides are worth thinking through if attempting to provide MEPs with lobbying comments or better case studies and briefing material.[2] I'm surprised to see a Labour politician arguing to damage the UK's current Freedom of Panorama, it feels like a future vote loser to me, especially in the light of the ever looming UK referendum on whether to stay in the EU.[3]
Links
- http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b060kp1r - go to 52 minutes into
the programme, available on-line for a month from broadcast. 2. http://www.europarl.org.uk/en/your-meps.html - contact details for UK MEPs, Honeyball can be found under London. 3. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32810887
Fae
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Owen Blacker's blog post on Medium:
https://medium.com/vantage/freedom-of-panorama-is-under-attack-6cc5353b4f65
The Times headline is *superlative*. If only the Times wasn't paywalled ...
On 24 June 2015 at 13:45, Richard Nevell richard.nevell@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
I think Stevie Benton is working on a letter to MEPs. As far as I know it's at a drafting stage.
Richard
On 24 June 2015 at 13:39, Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
Hi team WMUK, I'm planning to write a letter to my MEP(s) about this. Has anyone written one already and can share it? Deryck
On 23 June 2015 at 23:38, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
For those interested in this proposed EU copyright change, and with access to the BBC IPlayer (it may only work in the UK), I suggest reviewing today's Daily Politics show.[1] The position of the Labour party MEP (Mary Honeyball) is to support new restrictions on Freedom of Panorama (she gives a good 2 minute explanation of why the proposed amendment is a great thing), while the UKIP Culture Spokesman (Peter Whittle) is set against.
The arguments on both sides are reasoned but slightly confused, with some errors creeping in. However these sound-bite cases for both sides are worth thinking through if attempting to provide MEPs with lobbying comments or better case studies and briefing material.[2] I'm surprised to see a Labour politician arguing to damage the UK's current Freedom of Panorama, it feels like a future vote loser to me, especially in the light of the ever looming UK referendum on whether to stay in the EU.[3]
Links
- http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b060kp1r - go to 52 minutes into
the programme, available on-line for a month from broadcast. 2. http://www.europarl.org.uk/en/your-meps.html - contact details for UK MEPs, Honeyball can be found under London. 3. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32810887
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I completely missed this thread; sorry about that :)
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 at 20:16 David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Owen Blacker's blog post on Medium:
https://medium.com/vantage/freedom-of-panorama-is-under-attack-6cc5353b4f65
The Times headline is *superlative*. If only the Times wasn't paywalled ...
On 24 June 2015 at 13:45, Richard Nevell richard.nevell@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
I think Stevie Benton is working on a letter to MEPs. As far as I know
it's
at a drafting stage.
Richard
On 24 June 2015 at 13:39, Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
Hi team WMUK, I'm planning to write a letter to my MEP(s) about this. Has anyone
written
one already and can share it? Deryck
On 23 June 2015 at 23:38, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
For those interested in this proposed EU copyright change, and with access to the BBC IPlayer (it may only work in the UK), I suggest reviewing today's Daily Politics show.[1] The position of the Labour party MEP (Mary Honeyball) is to support new restrictions on Freedom of Panorama (she gives a good 2 minute explanation of why the proposed amendment is a great thing), while the UKIP Culture Spokesman (Peter Whittle) is set against.
The arguments on both sides are reasoned but slightly confused, with some errors creeping in. However these sound-bite cases for both sides are worth thinking through if attempting to provide MEPs with lobbying comments or better case studies and briefing material.[2] I'm surprised to see a Labour politician arguing to damage the UK's current Freedom of Panorama, it feels like a future vote loser to me, especially in the light of the ever looming UK referendum on whether to stay in the EU.[3]
Links
- http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b060kp1r - go to 52 minutes into
the programme, available on-line for a month from broadcast. 2. http://www.europarl.org.uk/en/your-meps.html - contact details for UK MEPs, Honeyball can be found under London. 3. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32810887
Fae
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