BTW, thank you for your recent help with the Tamil version of Tipu's Tiger. Our contacts at the Victoria and Albert Museum were awed at how this was done on the day of the Wikilounge and it has helped their internal discussion about making large numbers of official images and video available available to support further multi-language collaborations.
* Tipu's Tiger on http://ta.wikipedia.orghttp://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%BF
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On 20 July 2011 09:25, Bala Jeyaraman sodabottle@gmail.com wrote:
I can help with the tamil translation. let me know where to do the localisation/translation.
Just to update you on Tipu's Tiger, now that Fae brought up the topic. User Shyamal and I have been helping User:Johnbod, Fae and others in developing Tipu's Tiger. The collaboration is successful and Tipu's Tiger has gone much beyond the C- class article that was the version Tamil Wikipedians translated to a GA nominee today with many new facts and images.
The surprising thing we learnt in this collaboration that despite just being on the internet in India and never having been to England, much less the V&A Museum, it was possible for us to contribute in so many ways - from finding derivative works, and public domain images to adding facts and references. The reasons for this were primarily that thanks to Shyamal's knowledge of open resources we found historical material on the net and also to some plain old grunt work churning through page after page of search results in Google Web, Google Books, Google Scholar and Google Images.
All in all, collaborating with UK GLAM on this initiative was a very positive experience that we recommend to others. In one sense, this international collaboration is the defauilt mode for all editting in Wikipedia and thus nothing really new - in another sense, it was an interesting, purposeful and deliberate collaboration between Wikimedians all over the world and the V&A Museum. We hope that this is just the first of many such initiatives with the Victoria and Albert Museum, a museum which holds many objects important to Indian heritage.
Our thanks and good wishes to our British colleagues for this venture.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur ------------------------------------------------------
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Fae faenwp@gmail.com wrote:
BTW, thank you for your recent help with the Tamil version of Tipu's Tiger. Our contacts at the Victoria and Albert Museum were awed at how this was done on the day of the Wikilounge and it has helped their internal discussion about making large numbers of official images and video available available to support further multi-language collaborations.
- Tipu's Tiger on http://ta.wikipedia.orghttp://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%BF
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On 20 July 2011 09:25, Bala Jeyaraman sodabottle@gmail.com wrote:
I can help with the tamil translation. let me know where to do the localisation/translation.
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Hi Please give me the link, I want to translate in Bengali
Hi,
The Tipu's Tiger English article is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipu%27s_Tiger. A Bengali version would be fantastic.
It is currently in 13 different languages which you can see listed in the languages side-bar. As this is the key case study for the V&A we would love to have as many languages as possible and some of the current stub class language variations double checked for accuracy, for example Welsh needs some help. The English version is currently nominated for a DYK and has an outstanding GA nomination (strong hint to :en regulars).
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On 20 July 2011 15:35, Jayanta Nath jayantanth@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Please give me the link, I want to translate in Bengali
Glad to be of help (coudnt resist as the subject was very interesting). I will start work on updating the ta wiki article using the expanded en wiki version. I smell a potential main page article for ta wiki :-)
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Fae faenwp@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
The Tipu's Tiger English article is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipu%27s_Tiger. A Bengali version would be fantastic.
It is currently in 13 different languages which you can see listed in the languages side-bar. As this is the key case study for the V&A we would love to have as many languages as possible and some of the current stub class language variations double checked for accuracy, for example Welsh needs some help. The English version is currently nominated for a DYK and has an outstanding GA nomination (strong hint to :en regulars).
Cheers, Fae -- http://enwp.org/user_talk:fae Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/faetags
On 20 July 2011 15:35, Jayanta Nath jayantanth@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Please give me the link, I want to translate in Bengali
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Just read the article; it's great. And what a fantastic collaboration!
Also, this specific article can be shown to GLAM institutions in India as an example of what is possible.
Cheers Bishakha
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabottle@gmail.comwrote:
Glad to be of help (coudnt resist as the subject was very interesting). I will start work on updating the ta wiki article using the expanded en wiki version. I smell a potential main page article for ta wiki :-)
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Fae faenwp@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
The Tipu's Tiger English article is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipu%27s_Tiger. A Bengali version would be fantastic.
It is currently in 13 different languages which you can see listed in the languages side-bar. As this is the key case study for the V&A we would love to have as many languages as possible and some of the current stub class language variations double checked for accuracy, for example Welsh needs some help. The English version is currently nominated for a DYK and has an outstanding GA nomination (strong hint to :en regulars).
Cheers, Fae -- http://enwp.org/user_talk:fae Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/faetags
On 20 July 2011 15:35, Jayanta Nath jayantanth@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Please give me the link, I want to translate in Bengali
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Forgive the cheekiness, but this seems most apt as a subject to bring up on the WM UK list.
If you've not heard about the NoTW phone hacking, I congratulate you on having very, very effective reality-defenders.
Otherwise, assuming you've been like me and enjoying the tabloids being vilified, what questions would you like put to Robert Greenwald on the issue?
This is for an original article on Wikinews, and Robert was the producer/director of "OutFoxed: Rupert Murdoch's war on journalism". He exposed the overbearing hands-on force downmarket with Fox. What sort of things would people like him asked to speculate about regarding the (now 6 yr+ debacle over phone voicemail hacking).
Brian McNeil.
Now that the barndoor is open it appears that most MPs and journalists can now not only see it but they can write load and long pieces about it. Question: Did they know about all this before? Were they ignorant? Were they scared? Or did they just not see it?
On 20 July 2011 21:14, Brian McNeil brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
Forgive the cheekiness, but this seems most apt as a subject to bring up on the WM UK list.
If you've not heard about the NoTW phone hacking, I congratulate you on having very, very effective reality-defenders.
Otherwise, assuming you've been like me and enjoying the tabloids being vilified, what questions would you like put to Robert Greenwald on the issue?
This is for an original article on Wikinews, and Robert was the producer/director of "OutFoxed: Rupert Murdoch's war on journalism". He exposed the overbearing hands-on force downmarket with Fox. What sort of things would people like him asked to speculate about regarding the (now 6 yr+ debacle over phone voicemail hacking).
Brian McNeil.
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Brian_McNeil - Accredited Reporter. Facts don't cease to be facts, but news ceases to be news.
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My money is on "scared". And, in many, many cases I'd still bet that this is the case.
Over the last 6+ years the only people kicking this issue back into the sunlight have been Private Eye. At least two police investigations have been closed in an unseemly manner, with claims everything was already known. Given recent revelations, this is obviously not the case. Police have seemingly been bribed, blackmailed, or otherwise compromised. Ditto for our elected _servants_ in Westminster.
I can't wait to see what comes next; will The Dirty Digger need to fall off the back of a yacht when the FBI and Australian Federal Police investigations ramp up? Will half the UK's politicians be forced into early retirement on their index-linked final salary pensions that resemble those they've taken away from the majority of UK public servants?
Pass the popcorn! I'll take this over Corrie anyday.
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 23:39 +0100, Roger Bamkin wrote:
Now that the barndoor is open it appears that most MPs and journalists can now not only see it but they can write load and long pieces about it. Question: Did they know about all this before? Were they ignorant? Were they scared? Or did they just not see it?
On 20 July 2011 21:14, Brian McNeil brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote: Forgive the cheekiness, but this seems most apt as a subject to bring up on the WM UK list.
If you've not heard about the NoTW phone hacking, I congratulate you on having very, very effective reality-defenders. Otherwise, assuming you've been like me and enjoying the tabloids being vilified, what questions would you like put to Robert Greenwald on the issue? This is for an original article on Wikinews, and Robert was the producer/director of "OutFoxed: Rupert Murdoch's war on journalism". He exposed the overbearing hands-on force downmarket with Fox. What sort of things would people like him asked to speculate about regarding the (now 6 yr+ debacle over phone voicemail hacking). Brian McNeil. -- http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Brian_McNeil - Accredited Reporter. Facts don't cease to be facts, but news ceases to be news. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org-- Roger Bamkin Chair WMUK 01332 702993 (aka @Victuallers)
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Brian McNeil.
On 22 July 2011 00:59, Brian McNeil brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
Pass the popcorn! I'll take this over Corrie anyday.
I would. Just. But only because I hate Corrie.
I was turned off the whole story when it turned into a Murdoch witch-hunt and everybody ignored what all the other newspapers were doing.
On 20 July 2011 14:54, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com wrote:
All in all, collaborating with UK GLAM on this initiative was a very positive experience that we recommend to others
If you're looking for further GLAM articles to translate, please consider this one:
* The King of Rome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_of_Rome from GLAM/Derby
and:
* articles about endangered species from the GLAM/ARKive project http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/ARKive, listed in the "Work done" section.
Please let me know if and when you do any of these.
Hi Ashwin,
One area where it does help being in London is photography. The V&A has been very progressive about this, you can't use flash, or at least not where there is a risk of damaging the artworks. But otherwise they are quite open to photography of their own collection (special exhibitions with visiting collections are another story).
So far we've barely started on
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Indian_sculpture_in_the_Victoria_...
There are many more exhibits in the museum, including quite a lot from India, and I hope we'll see many more photos loaded in the future. But if you have any specific requests please do let us know, probably the best place to post a request for photography is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_London
Bye for now, hope some of us will meet some of you in Haifa!
WereSpielChequers
On 20 July 2011 14:54, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com wrote:
Just to update you on Tipu's Tiger, now that Fae brought up the topic. User Shyamal and I have been helping User:Johnbod, Fae and others in developing Tipu's Tiger. The collaboration is successful and Tipu's Tiger has gone much beyond the C- class article that was the version Tamil Wikipedians translated to a GA nominee today with many new facts and images.
The surprising thing we learnt in this collaboration that despite just being on the internet in India and never having been to England, much less the V&A Museum, it was possible for us to contribute in so many ways - from finding derivative works, and public domain images to adding facts and references. The reasons for this were primarily that thanks to Shyamal's knowledge of open resources we found historical material on the net and also to some plain old grunt work churning through page after page of search results in Google Web, Google Books, Google Scholar and Google Images.
All in all, collaborating with UK GLAM on this initiative was a very positive experience that we recommend to others. In one sense, this international collaboration is the defauilt mode for all editting in Wikipedia and thus nothing really new - in another sense, it was an interesting, purposeful and deliberate collaboration between Wikimedians all over the world and the V&A Museum. We hope that this is just the first of many such initiatives with the Victoria and Albert Museum, a museum which holds many objects important to Indian heritage.
Our thanks and good wishes to our British colleagues for this venture.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
On 20 July 2011 14:05, Fae faenwp@gmail.com wrote:
BTW, thank you for your recent help with the Tamil version of Tipu's Tiger. Our contacts at the Victoria and Albert Museum were awed at how this was done on the day of the Wikilounge and it has helped their internal discussion about making large numbers of official images and video available available to support further multi-language collaborations.
- Tipu's Tiger on http://ta.wikipedia.org
Cheers, Fae
Hmm interestingly the professional photos also suffer from the long standing problem of making it difficult to indicate the scale of an object if you are unfamiliar with it.
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