On 02/09/07, Gordon Joly gordon.joly@pobox.com wrote:
So, like the Queen of England, both an official and a real birthday?
Not the first time dearest Jimbo has been referred to as being like the Queen of England. Unfortunately, the comparison is not at all appropriate.
Generally, if Jimbo celebrates his birthday on, say, August 5th or 6th, it wouldn't necessarily be different from many other people celebrating their birthdays slightly ahead of or after schedule.
(While we're on the subject, my birthday falls comfortably inside of the Wikimania period.)
Rob Church
Take a look at this: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2008/Bids/Atlanta/Sponsorships and note the difference to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2008/Bids/London/List_of_potential_...
Am I honestly just wasting my time?
Rather than just trying to find money randomly, it may be better to try and work out a budget first so we know what we need. How much does it cost to run a wikimania and what resources would be required?
Also some potential sponsors may not be able to provide money but would be able to provide some kind of service that we might need, eg if ucl donate their facilities for the conference that would represent a saving of £thousands compared to commercial conference facility rates.
Also I've had a look at last years sponsors, (at least) two of them have offices in the UK: Yahoo! and Afilias; might they be willing to go again?
On 03/09/07, Gary Kirk gary.kirk@gmail.com wrote:
Take a look at this: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2008/Bids/Atlanta/Sponsorships and note the difference to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2008/Bids/London/List_of_potential_...
Am I honestly just wasting my time?
-- Gary Kirk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
They possibly will. But I for one have no idea what the sponsorship is for, and thus there is no way I can approach anybody about it. There is only a certain level I can take this bid to personally on my own, and I've reached it. Tell me what we need money for and I'll try my best, as can everyone else with limited time, resources. bla bla... :)
On 9/3/07, James Hardy wikimediauk@weeb.biz wrote:
Rather than just trying to find money randomly, it may be better to try and work out a budget first so we know what we need. How much does it cost to run a wikimania and what resources would be required?
Also some potential sponsors may not be able to provide money but would be able to provide some kind of service that we might need, eg if ucl donate their facilities for the conference that would represent a saving of £thousands compared to commercial conference facility rates.
Also I've had a look at last years sponsors, (at least) two of them have offices in the UK: Yahoo! and Afilias; might they be willing to go again?
On 03/09/07, Gary Kirk gary.kirk@gmail.com wrote:
Take a look at this: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2008/Bids/Atlanta/Sponsorships and note the difference to
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2008/Bids/London/List_of_potential_...
Am I honestly just wasting my time?
-- Gary Kirk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
At 17:24 +0100 3/9/07, Gary Kirk wrote:
They possibly will. But I for one have no idea what the sponsorship is for, and thus there is no way I can approach anybody about it. There is only a certain level I can take this bid to personally on my own, and I've reached it. Tell me what we need money for and I'll try my best, as can everyone else with limited time, resources. bla bla... :)
What of the UK Chapter (company directors) and Alison Wheeler and the team who put together the bid last time around?
Gordo
Gary Kirk wrote:
Take a look at this: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2008/Bids/Atlanta/Sponsorships and note the difference to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2008/Bids/London/List_of_potential_... http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2008/Bids/London/List_of_potential_business_sponsors
Am I honestly just wasting my time?
-- Gary Kirk
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no :-)
But, a few suggestions
1) every year, we contact the sponsors of the previous years. The global ones are often willing to give again.
2) you should contact major charity organizations that could give to the organization of Wikimania. In particular if they have a big location in London...
3) same for big companies located in London.
4) companies to focus on are those involved in high tech (cell phones, computers, wiki services), news and education. All might get happy to benefit from rather cheap indirect advertisement
A good idea is to have most sponsors with "no string attached". There are however some specifics that sponsors love to pay for.
Example * for the past three year, OSI donates money for scholarships. This is particularly interesting to make sure people from very far away, or isolated, or poor countries, can come. In the past few years, we were able to fund travels for some africans, south americans, ex ussr countries, asia etc... Google provided funds for the travel of some tech support.
* funding the big Wikimania party. Typically, might be covered by a cell phone company :-)
* funding the VIP party.
* funding with the drinks, breakfast food, finger food during the day (Coca Cola etc...)
* funding tee-shirts, totbag, badges, wikireader, puzzle, little presents for everyone, banners etc... with the name of the sponsor on it of course !
* funding for child care facility for participants. It may be providing a professional child care person and toys.
Other types of sponsors can help in providing stuff (such as video system, laptops, cell phones, sim cards etc...). Or in providing human help (volunteers to do boring stuff, or professional stuff).
A good idea is to first to work on a list of things to be provided to the participants. Then identify what sponsors might desire funding. When you look for sponsors, either propose "no string attached" funding, or propose to participate to a certain thing.
Once you know you want a sponsor to fund the food or the drinks, it is much easier to think "what about asking Cola Cola ? ", or "what about asking this famous "ready-to-eat food service" for help ?
ant
- every year, we contact the sponsors of the previous years. The global
ones are often willing to give again.
Shouldn't global sponsors being contacted once by WMF, rather than individually by each bid? If I were Coca-Cola I would get very annoyed at lots of requests for sponsorship by the same people, only one of which actually happens.
Thomas Dalton wrote:
- every year, we contact the sponsors of the previous years. The global
ones are often willing to give again.
Shouldn't global sponsors being contacted once by WMF, rather than individually by each bid? If I were Coca-Cola I would get very annoyed at lots of requests for sponsorship by the same people, only one of which actually happens.
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probably. it certainly makes more sense for you to focus on local sponsors.
Ant
I would suggest that even when contacting "global" sponsors, you would really only be contacting the local arm of the global corporation, eg Coca-Cola Enterprises Ltd (in Uxbridge) rather than The Coca-Cola Company (Atlanta)
(Though since Atlanta is the home of coke, that is probably why the atlanta bid put them at the top of the list)
On 05/09/07, Florence Devouard Anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
Thomas Dalton wrote:
- every year, we contact the sponsors of the previous years. The
global
ones are often willing to give again.
Shouldn't global sponsors being contacted once by WMF, rather than individually by each bid? If I were Coca-Cola I would get very annoyed at lots of requests for sponsorship by the same people, only one of which actually happens.
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probably. it certainly makes more sense for you to focus on local sponsors.
Ant
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