I have around an hour of audio from one of Tony Benn's appearances up here at the Fringe. Sadly, Real Work is leaving me with zero time to transcribe that into anything I can work from.
I won't, publicly, share the link to that; but, if anyone is interested in helping out, ping me. I have asked if the trailer for the film - an "audio-biographical" as they label it - can be released under a free license, which (with some hilarious confusion over Wikinews versus WikiLeaks) was in-general agreed to.
I also have an open invite to get in touch with Tony's assistant Ruth, should I be visiting London, to go one step further than Andy's current suggestion of recording an audio intro of Wikipedia bio article subjects, and capture a short video clip of Tony introducing himself.
Any help making that happen would be greatly appreciated. Since - at my request Tony spoke to his son Hilary, and got the photo currently adorning his Wikipedia bio gifted from Hilary, there is also an opportunity to request more images, from earlier in his political life, be donated to Commons.
Tangentially related, I've run out of some of the brochures I had. I've been leaving them lying around Fringe venues, and would like to keep doing so. But, obviously, with a Wikinews leaflet in-addition to all the Commons and Wikipedia stuff.
Someone in the office should have my mobile number, please reach out to me as I'm ridiculously busy with work.
Brian McNeil
Hi Brian,
That all sounds really interesting, nicely done!
I don't have your mobile number but I am connected to you on Skype. If there's a good time to contact you please let me know and I'll ping you and we can take it from there. Happy to help in whatever way is useful to you.
Thanks and regards,
Stevie
On 15 August 2013 08:51, brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
I have around an hour of audio from one of Tony Benn's appearances up here at the Fringe. Sadly, Real Work is leaving me with zero time to transcribe that into anything I can work from.
I won't, publicly, share the link to that; but, if anyone is interested in helping out, ping me. I have asked if the trailer for the film - an "audio-biographical" as they label it - can be released under a free license, which (with some hilarious confusion over Wikinews versus WikiLeaks) was in-general agreed to.
I also have an open invite to get in touch with Tony's assistant Ruth, should I be visiting London, to go one step further than Andy's current suggestion of recording an audio intro of Wikipedia bio article subjects, and capture a short video clip of Tony introducing himself.
Any help making that happen would be greatly appreciated. Since - at my request Tony spoke to his son Hilary, and got the photo currently adorning his Wikipedia bio gifted from Hilary, there is also an opportunity to request more images, from earlier in his political life, be donated to Commons.
Tangentially related, I've run out of some of the brochures I had. I've been leaving them lying around Fringe venues, and would like to keep doing so. But, obviously, with a Wikinews leaflet in-addition to all the Commons and Wikipedia stuff.
Someone in the office should have my mobile number, please reach out to me as I'm ridiculously busy with work.
Brian McNeil
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Quoting Stevie Benton stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk:
Hi Brian,
That all sounds really interesting, nicely done!
I don't have your mobile number but I am connected to you on Skype. If there's a good time to contact you please let me know and I'll ping you and we can take it from there. Happy to help in whatever way is useful to you.
If I'm on, ping me.
I also have "using Commons, or Archive.org" on a forthcoming Edinburgh City Council agenda - and will be speaking to their solicitor anyway.
FYI:
http://wikinewsie.org/Edinburgh2013/
A recording of Tony's talk on Tuesday is near the bottom. And, I've still about another 50GiB of video footage to process, edit, etc, etc, etc.
I'm in Maidenhead next week, but have to get back up here for the Friday evening to film a charity concert (and, probably, do half the sound engineering).
On 15 August 2013 08:51, brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
I also have an open invite to get in touch with Tony's assistant Ruth, should I be visiting London, to go one step further than Andy's current suggestion of recording an audio intro of Wikipedia bio article subjects, and capture a short video clip of Tony introducing himself.
Thank you, Brian.
My following comment is thinking out loud and in no way meant to sound ungrateful.
I must confess I have mixed feelings about use of video for this. While it is generally a richer media, a "talking head" adds little over a still image and audio. The files are larger and one of my aims with the project was to have something light and easily and cheaply downloadable.
What do others think?
On a positive note, BBC presenter Evan Davis (Today Programme; Dragon's Den) has just supplied a cracking voice recording which is now on his article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Davis
Id say there is space for both. As well as being ligjtweight audio also has the advantage of being simpler to record and get sorted - but if someone is willing to do video then audio at the same time should be trivial to achieve.
Video is, then, perhaps value added?
Tom On 15 Aug 2013 12:03, "Andy Mabbett" andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 15 August 2013 08:51, brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
I also have an open invite to get in touch with Tony's assistant Ruth, should I be visiting London, to go one step further than Andy's current suggestion of recording an audio intro of Wikipedia bio article subjects, and capture a short video clip of Tony introducing himself.
Thank you, Brian.
My following comment is thinking out loud and in no way meant to sound ungrateful.
I must confess I have mixed feelings about use of video for this. While it is generally a richer media, a "talking head" adds little over a still image and audio. The files are larger and one of my aims with the project was to have something light and easily and cheaply downloadable.
What do others think?
On a positive note, BBC presenter Evan Davis (Today Programme; Dragon's Den) has just supplied a cracking voice recording which is now on his article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Davis
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Quoting Thomas Morton morton.thomas@googlemail.com:
On 15 Aug 2013 12:03, "Andy Mabbett" andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
I must confess I have mixed feelings about use of video for this. While it is generally a richer media, a "talking head" adds little over a still image and audio. The files are larger and one of my aims with the project was to have something light and easily and cheaply downloadable.
Id say there is space for both. As well as being ligjtweight audio also has the advantage of being simpler to record and get sorted - but if someone is willing to do video then audio at the same time should be trivial to achieve.
Video is, then, perhaps value added?
Not exactly well-thought-out, but we'd a rather nifty collection of "software duct-tape" for Wikinews' Paralympics work. I rented a VPS for that month, installed a dropbox client on it, and our reporters at the Paralympics simply dropped their media into Dropbox.
On the VPS? It picked up all non-free media formats (audio, and video) converted them to free formats, then pushed them where was-appropriate via NewsieBot (Commons, Wikinews, or our closed Wiki).
OwnCloud is the 'libre' alternative, but I've simply no time to do this justice. (You try being frontline support when the 800lb gorilla on the other end of the line is British Telecom asking how their £5milln is being spent :P)
I'd say that I have a general idea of how to build a workflow and tool-chain several generational iterations ahead of Andy's ideas - one that would support what he's proposed (at the low-end); but, at the end where I want to work, multiple resolutions would be output (from 720p down to 'works with the original 8Mbps ADSL').
Splitting audio off from video is pretty trivial, and "simple cross-edits" are easier than you might think (look for some of the 'teaser' stuff on facebook.com/wikinews).
I'm delighted Jimmy took advantage of the Wikimania keynote to raise news coverage, but saddened that our work was not mentioned. The Signpost's editors continue to attack Wikinews - with the obvious goal of installing themselves as Wikimedia's Fourth Estate.
But, no avenue exists to call for closure of their "trashy tabloid".
A bit of a hectic email, as I need to get back to work. I hope to be in Iceland, end-Sept or begin-Oct, for setup of The Wikinewsie Group. That, thanks to a few handy contacts, will include a tour round the likely home for any TWG servers - those will not be cheap, largely because I'm going to stamp my feet and demand we're set up to be mostly NSA-proofed. And, running their preferred operating system (yes, it can host linux VMs).
Brian McNeil
On 15 August 2013 12:02, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
I must confess I have mixed feelings about use of video for this. While it is generally a richer media, a "talking head" adds little over a still image and audio. The files are larger and one of my aims with the project was to have something light and easily and cheaply downloadable. What do others think?
Moore's Law still applies. A snippet of video is not that huge compared to the horrifying plague of JavaScript we drop on every page view, for example; I expect this to only get larger, and bandwidth to get higher. And the video doesn't auto-load or anything.
- d.
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