Rod, I'd be happy to help with a call/video meeting, or to run the modest-sized batch upload when they are ready. The numbers mentioned may take just a day or two to upload. At this moment I'm the most active Commons uploader of GLAM media, the can see examples at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae/Project_list As Jonathan implies, the upload itself may be a bit technically challenging, but is not especially intellectually challenging for the institution. The hard part is the early spadework; examining the collection and ensuring that the metadata is reliably consistent, working out how to do some auto-categorization without potentially 'spamming' Commons categories, that the best use is made of Commons templates by intelligently mapping metadata to fields, and that the various copyright scenarios are hammered out in advance. The last issue of copyright may be as simple as applying the no-copyright-known template, or it may need a bit of programmer magic to automatically map copyright licenses based on metadata, and weed out images that may be challenged under our strict Commons policies of there being "no significant doubt". It's better to have those discussions early, rather than have multiple deletion requests to manage downstream. Fae -- faewik(a)gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae On 14 October 2016 at 09:15, Jonathan Cardy <werespielchequers(a)gmail.com> wrote: the curator museum on stuff wrote: ) there in a _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

Fæ would be my first suggestion for a mass upload if he is available and the collection is suitable. But reading through that link I'm not sure we can use that collection. Apparently it was started forty years ago by a curator who invited people to bring in historic photos and lend them to the museum to make a copy. I'm sure that's fine for the Museum to use. But I wouldn't care to argue on Commons that this constitutes a CC-BY-SA 3 licence for all those images. Hopefully there will be a subset which can be dated early enough to argue PD. Maybe there are some where the rights owner can be traced, but I'd suspect there will be a lot of photographers from an era where some will have died long enough ago to make it difficult to trace the heirs, and others may even still be with us. At some point in the future no doubt we can import the lot, provided a digital copy is still extant. Another reason why the movement needs a sealed repository from which stuff can be migrated when it is out of copyright. Depending on the age range of the images and the quality of the metadata there could be a useful proportion that would be safe to upload. It all depends on the ratio of "my grandfather died in 1880 and left us this collection" to "my grandfather died in 1980 and left us this collection". WSC On 14 Oct 2016, at 08:18, <rod(a)rodspace.co.uk> <rod(a)rodspace.co.uk> wrote: Hi all, I have just spotted an announcement of a historic photograph digitisation project by the friends of the Somerset Life Museum Research Group (see https://somersetrurallifemuseum.org.uk/2016/10/13/digitisation-project/ ) aiming to digitise 15,000 images. I have made an initial contact asking about licencing and sharing and mentioned “mass uploads” but I know very little about this. I believe there have been some people who have done this for/with other GLAMS and/or developed tools to handle this. Who would be the best person to put them in touch with if they come back to me and they are willing to release under a suitable licence? Rod _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

Hi all, There was some discussion of orphan works in Wikimedia UK when the new legislation was introduced in May 2015. Please check government guidance in this. Unfortunately the new regulations are not very favourable to us. Arguing that creating exact copies created a new copyright would be counterproductive as regards the use of non-orphan work that has become public domain and copied by whoever. all the best Fabian aka Leutha On 15 October 2016 at 13:06 John Lubbock <john.lubbock(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: Could they not be declared orphan works if there was some due diligence done to establish that the original authors could not be found? Couldn't you argue that the authorisation for making a copy of the originals produced a new copyright which was held by the museum? Presumably if someone's grandfather left them the collection, it's their copyright to release, but if a copy of the image was made in 1970 then surely the copyright on that copy is the museum's? I've been trying to understand copyright for years now and it's still a bit of a mystery to me. Especially with photos it seems flexible to an extent. On 14 October 2016 at 09:15, Jonathan Cardy <werespielchequers(a)gmail.com> wrote: Fæ would be my first suggestion for a mass upload if he is available and the collection is suitable. But reading through that link I'm not sure we can use that collection. Apparently it was started forty years ago by a curator who invited people to bring in historic photos and lend them to the museum to make a copy. I'm sure that's fine for the Museum to use. But I wouldn't care to argue on Commons that this constitutes a CC-BY-SA 3 licence for all those images. Hopefully there will be a subset which can be dated early enough to argue PD. Maybe there are some where the rights owner can be traced, but I'd suspect there will be a lot of photographers from an era where some will have died long enough ago to make it difficult to trace the heirs, and others may even still be with us. At some point in the future no doubt we can import the lot, provided a digital copy is still extant. Another reason why the movement needs a sealed repository from which stuff can be migrated when it is out of copyright. Depending on the age range of the images and the quality of the metadata there could be a useful proportion that would be safe to upload. It all depends on the ratio of "my grandfather died in 1880 and left us this collection" to "my grandfather died in 1980 and left us this collection". WSC On 14 Oct 2016, at 08:18, <rod(a)rodspace.co.uk> <rod(a)rodspace.co.uk> wrote: Hi all, I have just spotted an announcement of a historic photograph digitisation project by the friends of the Somerset Life Museum Research Group (see https://somersetrurallifemuseum.org.uk/2016/10/13/digitisation-project/ ) aiming to digitise 15,000 images. I have made an initial contact asking about licencing and sharing and mentioned “mass uploads” but I know very little about this. I believe there have been some people who have done this for/with other GLAMS and/or developed tools to handle this. Who would be the best person to put them in touch with if they come back to me and they are willing to release under a suitable licence? Rod

This, perhaps? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/GLAMpipe On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 8:18 AM <rod(a)rodspace.co.uk> wrote: _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk