I basically agree with Katherine, Gordo I'm not sure what benefits you think members should get? Why are you a member?
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How does that square with the fact other wikimedia chapter memberships don't really seem to get specific benefits and privileges? Would it be consistent with what the movement and our chapter in it are trying to achieve?
I think the answer is 'probably not'. It's not up to me to decide, but I don't think we can afford to keep getting stuck/vague on this point. It will harm recruitment.
There are several points I would like to make:
* As a movement, there is no unified will with single set of goals but a diverse range of people with differing priorities. Wikipedia (and the sister projects) constitutes the manifestation of the aggregation of the diversity of "what we are trying to achieve".
* As long as there are enough people to maintain WMUK, why do we need to worry about recruitment? And if there are not enough people, then perhaps there is no need for WMUK? I find it somewhat disappointing that discussions on this list have headed in this direction, instead of focussing on what we think we be good to help develop the family of Wikimedia sites. I was rather hoping the role of the fundraiser would be to look at developing projects to achieve such goals, rather than focusing on WMUK as a self-perpetuating entity.
I am really keen that we have a small membership cost (£5 is good) and that this simply empowers the member to vote at AGMs etc. Adding other features is likely to have a financial impact leading some to call for a rise in the membership fee to cover services which not everyone may feel are useful or even suitable.
all the best Fabian User:Leutha
On 28 June 2013 20:52, fabian@unpopular.org.uk wrote: <snip>
- As long as there are enough people to maintain WMUK, why do we need to
worry about recruitment? And if there are not enough people, then perhaps there is no need for WMUK?
False dichotomy? There is room for concern about the narrow base of the chapter.
I am really keen that we have a small membership cost (£5 is good) and that this simply empowers the member to vote at AGMs etc. Adding other features is likely to have a financial impact leading some to call for a rise in the membership fee to cover services which not everyone may feel are useful or even suitable.
An accountancy exercise could be added to the "stakeholder" exercise. The figure of £5 was of course plucked out of the air in early 2010, before any such financial calculation could be made. It is worth pointing out that recruiting new members brings economies of scale in the basic admin cost (automated mailings). In the past I have thought that a low membership of 100ish meant that the fees didn't actually cover that cost.
Charles
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