WMUK were ready to support WLM last year (I was the speaker at the last AGM) but the main problem was that no one stepped up to run it. To answer Harry's question on how much work is needed, & talked about it with several from the Netherlands & elsewhere, & had meetings about doing it in the UK, I'm pretty sure the short answer is - a lot! There is the possibility this year that the expanded office staff would be able to do much or nearly all of this (which we have not discussed), but otherwise we remain where we were a year ago. The Geograph issue has probably reduced the motivation for many, but is not an obstacle as such. The talks we had showed there were things Geograph is very good at (broad exterior shots) but others it was not (interiors, details of various kinds, special sorts of buildings ....) and we could skew the competition towards those. This year the AGM will be I think too late to start the process though, but if it is underway, then a progress report at the AGM would certainly be a good idea.
John
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As I recall, the objections were in part that we have most of this material already on Commons (via Geograph), but badly organised. I don't know if that's changed, or if we've got a better idea of what's out there...
- Andrew.
On 16 January 2013 16:45, HJ Mitchell<hjmitchel
In a general way we were talking about doing an indoor-shots photography competition in the "Wiki takes" theme in the run up to Lincoln AGM, so we could use that to motivate/drive WLM perhaps?
Tom
On 16 January 2013 17:28, John Byrne john@bodkinprints.co.uk wrote:
WMUK were ready to support WLM last year (I was the speaker at the last AGM) but the main problem was that no one stepped up to run it. To answer Harry's question on how much work is needed, & talked about it with several from the Netherlands & elsewhere, & had meetings about doing it in the UK, I'm pretty sure the short answer is - a lot! There is the possibility this year that the expanded office staff would be able to do much or nearly all of this (which we have not discussed), but otherwise we remain where we were a year ago. The Geograph issue has probably reduced the motivation for many, but is not an obstacle as such. The talks we had showed there were things Geograph is very good at (broad exterior shots) but others it was not (interiors, details of various kinds, special sorts of buildings ....) and we could skew the competition towards those. This year the AGM will be I think too late to start the process though, but if it is underway, then a progress report at the AGM would certainly be a good idea.
John
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As I recall, the objections were in part that we have most of this material already on Commons (via Geograph), but badly organised. I don't know if that's changed, or if we've got a better idea of what's out there...
- Andrew.
On 16 January 2013 16:45, HJ Mitchell<hjmitchel
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John - you are in the office tomorrow - let's draw up a plan as to what needs to happen and make it one of the first tasks of the new GLAM organiser.
On 16 January 2013 17:28, John Byrne john@bodkinprints.co.uk wrote:
WMUK were ready to support WLM last year (I was the speaker at the last AGM) but the main problem was that no one stepped up to run it. To answer Harry's question on how much work is needed, & talked about it with several from the Netherlands & elsewhere, & had meetings about doing it in the UK, I'm pretty sure the short answer is - a lot! There is the possibility this year that the expanded office staff would be able to do much or nearly all of this (which we have not discussed), but otherwise we remain where we were a year ago. The Geograph issue has probably reduced the motivation for many, but is not an obstacle as such. The talks we had showed there were things Geograph is very good at (broad exterior shots) but others it was not (interiors, details of various kinds, special sorts of buildings ....) and we could skew the competition towards those. This year the AGM will be I think too late to start the process though, but if it is underway, then a progress report at the AGM would certainly be a good idea.
John
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:49:28 +0000 From: Andrew Gray<andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk**> To: HJ Mitchellhjmitchell@ymail.com**, UK Wikimedia mailing list <wikimediauk-l@lists.**wikimedia.orgwikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
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As I recall, the objections were in part that we have most of this material already on Commons (via Geograph), but badly organised. I don't know if that's changed, or if we've got a better idea of what's out there...
- Andrew.
On 16 January 2013 16:45, HJ Mitchell<hjmitchel
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On 16 January 2013 17:39, Jon Davies jon.davies@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
John - you are in the office tomorrow - let's draw up a plan as to what needs to happen and make it one of the first tasks of the new GLAM organiser.
Would this be too late? They will probably not be around before the start of April (assuming a month notice/moving/etc), and the reference plan has WLM well along by then:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Timeline
That said, it would certainly be an interesting project to get them off the ground with!
I hope to have them in place by the end of March at the latest - is this too late?
On 16 January 2013 23:15, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
On 16 January 2013 17:39, Jon Davies jon.davies@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
John - you are in the office tomorrow - let's draw up a plan as to what needs to happen and make it one of the first tasks of the new GLAM organiser.
Would this be too late? They will probably not be around before the start of April (assuming a month notice/moving/etc), and the reference plan has WLM well along by then:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Timeline
That said, it would certainly be an interesting project to get them off the ground with!
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I think it should be note that Geograph pictures *were* badly organised. A bot has made substantial improvements to their categorisation. At one time we were had stopped moving images because of the poor categorisation. The bot may allow us to import a few hundred thousand more. (my opinion only). This is the work of one volunteer to bring c. 2 million images into better use.
On 17 January 2013 08:47, Jon Davies jon.davies@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
I hope to have them in place by the end of March at the latest - is this too late?
On 16 January 2013 23:15, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
On 16 January 2013 17:39, Jon Davies jon.davies@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
John - you are in the office tomorrow - let's draw up a plan as to what needs to happen and make it one of the first tasks of the new GLAM organiser.
Would this be too late? They will probably not be around before the start of April (assuming a month notice/moving/etc), and the reference plan has WLM well along by then:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Timeline
That said, it would certainly be an interesting project to get them off the ground with!
--
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