The meetup has a conventional wiki page
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Cambridge/36
and also an Eventbrite page (has been shown to bring in people we don't otherwise see):
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/cambridge-wikimedia-meetup-tickets-3951002555...
Let me hasten to say that you can attend without a ticket!
Since the room has a projector, I'll be running an introductory Wikipedia editing session from 1 pm to 3 pm. Some followup was requested after a local workshop in September. The meetup proper will start at 3 pm. Last time we had several demos.
Hope to see some of you there.
Charles
On 02/11/17 21:12, Charles Matthews wrote:
The meetup has a conventional wiki page
Can you ask Prof. Hawking why he did not publish his thesis as an open document?
Gordo
On 10 November 2017 at 09:28 Gordon Joly <gordon.joly@pobox.com> wrote: On 02/11/17 21:12, Charles Matthews wrote: > The meetup has a conventional wiki page > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Cambridge/36 > Can you ask Prof. Hawking why he did not publish his thesis as an open document?
Sure, next meeting he attends. (It gives me a chance to say that, from the point of view of wheelchair access, the current venue is much better than we have had in the past.) In fact the last time I was in a room with him, it was at a a shortened version of the Ring Cycle. But that was many years ago.
Hawking's papers are actually at the Moore Library in Cambridge.
Charles
I know my old dinosaur brain gets confused easily these days, but I seem to remember that when we were typing our theses back in the '60s, there wasn't any such thing as an open document. Maybe that's why?
On 10 November 2017 at 17:59 leutha@fabiant.eu wrote:
Well, there was a conception open documents certainly back in thefifties. Check Neils Bohr's concept of an Open World in his Open Letter to the United Nations http://www.atomicarchive.com/Docs/Deterrence/BohrUN.shtml June 9, 1950 http://www.atomicarchive.com/Docs/Deterrence/BohrUN.shtml .
There is a joke "free as in carbon paper" in there somewhere.
Charles
On 10 November 2017 at 19:33, Charles Matthews charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com wrote:
There is a joke "free as in carbon paper" in there somewhere.
Information wants to be free. Information wants to be expensive.
Does maker space mean "someone who might know something about .STL files"? (although I'll be there either way since I want to go to duxford).
On 12 November 2017 at 19:48 geni <geniice@gmail.com> wrote: On 10 November 2017 at 19:33, Charles Matthews <charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > There is a joke "free as in carbon paper" in there somewhere. > Information wants to be free. Information wants to be expensive. Does maker space mean "someone who might know something about .STL files"? (although I'll be there either way since I want to go to duxford).
A good guess. There are a number of 3D printers in the place. Do you want me to ask a colleague?
Charles
Eh my interest is more in creating .STL files to create objects than be rotated in the browser than 3D printing.
On 12 November 2017 at 20:05, Charles Matthews charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com wrote:
On 12 November 2017 at 19:48 geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 November 2017 at 19:33, Charles Matthews charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com wrote:
There is a joke "free as in carbon paper" in there somewhere.
Information wants to be free. Information wants to be expensive.
Does maker space mean "someone who might know something about .STL files"? (although I'll be there either way since I want to go to duxford).
A good guess. There are a number of 3D printers in the place. Do you want me to ask a colleague?
Charles
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On 12/11/17 19:48, geni wrote:
Does maker space mean "someone who might know something about .STL files"? (although I'll be there either way since I want to go to duxford).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STL_(file_format)
Just in case like me you did not know what STL was!
:-)
Gordo
On 29 November 2017 at 09:15 Gordon Joly <gordon.joly@pobox.com> wrote: On 12/11/17 19:48, geni wrote: > Does maker space mean "someone who might know something about .STL > files"? (although I'll be there either way since I want to go to > duxford). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STL_(file_format) Just in case like me you did not know what STL was! :-)
It was my afternoon to say "and now for something completely different", as Deryck Chan offered to talk about complex property replacement on Wikidata.
Charles
That's an amazing quote Fabian! L
On 10 November 2017 at 17:59, leutha@fabiant.eu wrote:
Well, there was a conception open documents certainly back in the fifties. Check Neils Bohr's concept of an Open World in his *Open Letter to the United Nations http://www.atomicarchive.com/Docs/Deterrence/BohrUN.shtml*June 9, 1950 http://www.atomicarchive.com/Docs/Deterrence/BohrUN.shtml.
*The ideal of an open world, with common knowledge about social conditions and technical enterprises, including military preparations, in every country, might seem a far remote possibility in the prevailing world situation. Still, not only will such relationship between nations obviously be required for genuine co-operation on progress of civilization, but even a common declaration of adherence to such a course would create a most favourable background for concerted efforts to promote universal security. Moreover, it appeared to me that the countries which had pioneered in the new technical development might, due to their possibilities of offering valuable information, be in a special position to take the initiative by a direct proposal of full mutual openness.*
all the best
Fabian
On 10 November 2017 at 14:17 Rex X rexx@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
I know my old dinosaur brain gets confused easily these days, but I seem to remember that when we were typing our theses back in the '60s, there wasn't any such thing as an open document. Maybe that's why?
-- T-Rexx
On 10 November 2017 at 10:56 Charles Matthews
charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com wrote:
On 10 November 2017 at 09:28 Gordon Joly gordon.joly@pobox.com wrote:
On 02/11/17 21:12, Charles Matthews wrote:
The meetup has a conventional wiki page
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Cambridge/36
Can you ask Prof. Hawking why he did not publish his thesis as an open document?
Sure, next meeting he attends. (It gives me a chance to say that, from the point of view of wheelchair access, the current venue is much better than we have had in the past.) In fact the last time I was in a room with him, it was at a a shortened version of the Ring Cycle. But that was many years ago.
Hawking's papers are actually at the Moore Library in Cambridge.
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On 10/11/17 14:17, Rex X wrote:
I know my old dinosaur brain gets confused easily these days, but I seem to remember that when we were typing our theses back in the '60s, there wasn't any such thing as an open document. Maybe that's why?
-- T-Rexx
Did Hawking put a (2017?) standard copyright on the recent high quality scan?
https://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-PHD-05437/1
https://www.repository.cam.ac.uk/handle/1810/251038
That is this version:
"Thesis - Colour High Resolution (2017) (PDF, 32Mb)"
Physical Location: Cambridge University Library Classmark: PhD.5437 Subject(s): Cosmology Author(s): Hawking, Stephen, 1942- Origin Place: Cambridge Date of Creation: 1966 Language(s): English Extent: 117 leaves ; 26 cm Material: Paper Format: Book
I am enjoying reading this text, handwritten equations from a man who a few years later lost most of his motor skills, not least since it was "my area" in the early 1980s.
"The Hand of Hawking"
Gordo
Reminder about tomorrow's event. The introduction from 1 pm will be an occasion for me to try out a new approach, under the title "Twenty Things to Know and Do when editing Wikipedia".
Charles
On 02 November 2017 at 21:12 Charles Matthews charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com wrote:
The meetup has a conventional wiki page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Cambridge/36 and also an Eventbrite page (has been shown to bring in people we don'totherwise see):
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/cambridge-wikimedia-meetup-tickets-3951002555...
Let me hasten to say that you can attend without a ticket! Since the room has a projector, I'll be running an introductory Wikipediaediting session from 1 pm to 3 pm. Some followup was requested after a local workshop in September. The meetup proper will start at 3 pm. Last time we had several demos.
Hope to see some of you there. Charles
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