Hello everyone,
I've just encountered a Wikipedia essay from a user called Antandrus. It's from 2006/7 or so initially but much of it still holds true.
It may be familiar to you but thought you might like it, too - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Antandrus/observations_on_Wikipedia_...
Thanks and regards,
Stevie
On 22 October 2013 12:35, Stevie Benton stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:
Hello everyone,
I've just encountered a Wikipedia essay from a user called Antandrus. It's from 2006/7 or so initially but much of it still holds true.
It may be familiar to you but thought you might like it, too - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Antandrus/observations_on_Wikipedia_...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Antandrus/observations_on_Wikipedia_behav...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Antandrus/observations_on_Wikipedia_behavior
for the thing itself, rather than the talk page. The grand-daddy of such lists is of course
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Raul%27s_laws
Charles
Sorry about that. Thanks for spotting that Charles. On 22 Oct 2013 13:05, "Charles Matthews" charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com wrote:
On 22 October 2013 12:35, Stevie Benton stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:
Hello everyone,
I've just encountered a Wikipedia essay from a user called Antandrus. It's from 2006/7 or so initially but much of it still holds true.
It may be familiar to you but thought you might like it, too - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Antandrus/observations_on_Wikipedia_...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Antandrus/observations_on_Wikipedia_behav...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Antandrus/observations_on_Wikipedia_behavior
for the thing itself, rather than the talk page. The grand-daddy of such lists is of course
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Raul%27s_laws
Charles
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Knew about Antandrus, but not Raul's Laws. Thanks.
From today's Guardian, " Wikipedia cracks down on 'paid advocacy editing and sockpuppetry' ": http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/22/wikipedia-ban-sock-puppet-...
Only six comments so far, if anyone wants to weigh in.
Edward Hands (Edwardx)
Sorry about that. Thanks for spotting that Charles.
On 22 Oct 2013 13:05, "Charles Matthews" <charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com mailto:charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On 22 October 2013 12:35, Stevie Benton <stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk <mailto:stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk>> wrote: Hello everyone, I've just encountered a Wikipedia essay from a user called Antandrus. It's from 2006/7 or so initially but much of it still holds true. It may be familiar to you but thought you might like it, too - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Antandrus/observations_on_Wikipedia_behavior https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Antandrus/observations_on_Wikipedia_behavior <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Antandrus/observations_on_Wikipedia_behavior> for the thing itself, rather than the talk page. The grand-daddy of such lists is of course https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Raul%27s_laws Charles
So that's what the paragraph in the i was about - it didn't mention paid editors. Glad to see an explanation. Doug
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Edward Hands edwardxx@gmail.com wrote:
Knew about Antandrus, but not Raul's Laws. Thanks.
From today's Guardian, " Wikipedia cracks down on 'paid advocacy editing and sockpuppetry' ":
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/22/wikipedia-ban-sock-puppet-...
Only six comments so far, if anyone wants to weigh in.
Edward Hands (Edwardx)
Sorry about that. Thanks for spotting that Charles. On 22 Oct 2013 13:05, "Charles Matthews" charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com wrote:
On 22 October 2013 12:35, Stevie Benton stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:
Hello everyone,
I've just encountered a Wikipedia essay from a user called Antandrus. It's from 2006/7 or so initially but much of it still holds true.
It may be familiar to you but thought you might like it, too - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Antandrus/observations_on_Wikipedia_...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Antandrus/observations_on_Wikipedia_behav...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Antandrus/observations_on_Wikipedia_behavior
for the thing itself, rather than the talk page. The grand-daddy of such lists is of course
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Raul%27s_laws
Charles
Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Thanks for sharing that link Edward. I think most of the coverage that I've seen has been pretty fair actually. I'm slowly putting together a list at https://wiki.wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Reports/2013/October#UK_press_coverage_.2... for those interested. (I'm aware the section heading may need changing this month.)
The CIPR President Elect has made some pretty robust comments about this story, too. They can be seen at http://www.prweek.com/article/1217351/new-wikipedia-editing-furore-provokes-...
Thanks and regards,
Stevie
On 22 October 2013 14:51, Doug Weller dougweller@gmail.com wrote:
So that's what the paragraph in the i was about - it didn't mention paid editors. Glad to see an explanation. Doug
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Edward Hands edwardxx@gmail.com wrote:
Knew about Antandrus, but not Raul's Laws. Thanks.
From today's Guardian, " Wikipedia cracks down on 'paid advocacy editing and sockpuppetry' ":
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/22/wikipedia-ban-sock-puppet-...
Only six comments so far, if anyone wants to weigh in.
Edward Hands (Edwardx)
Sorry about that. Thanks for spotting that Charles. On 22 Oct 2013 13:05, "Charles Matthews" charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com wrote:
On 22 October 2013 12:35, Stevie Benton stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:
Hello everyone,
I've just encountered a Wikipedia essay from a user called Antandrus. It's from 2006/7 or so initially but much of it still holds true.
It may be familiar to you but thought you might like it, too - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Antandrus/observations_on_Wikipedia_...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Antandrus/observations_on_Wikipedia_behav...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Antandrus/observations_on_Wikipedia_behavior
for the thing itself, rather than the talk page. The grand-daddy of such lists is of course
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Raul%27s_laws
Charles
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And of course the link to http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/wikipedia-sockpuppet-investigation-largest... that makes great reading! Doug
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Stevie Benton < stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
Thanks for sharing that link Edward. I think most of the coverage that I've seen has been pretty fair actually. I'm slowly putting together a list at https://wiki.wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Reports/2013/October#UK_press_coverage_.2... for those interested. (I'm aware the section heading may need changing this month.)
The CIPR President Elect has made some pretty robust comments about this story, too. They can be seen at http://www.prweek.com/article/1217351/new-wikipedia-editing-furore-provokes-...
Thanks and regards,
Stevie
On 22 October 2013 14:51, Doug Weller dougweller@gmail.com wrote:
So that's what the paragraph in the i was about - it didn't mention paid editors. Glad to see an explanation. Doug
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Edward Hands edwardxx@gmail.com wrote:
Knew about Antandrus, but not Raul's Laws. Thanks.
From today's Guardian, " Wikipedia cracks down on 'paid advocacy editing and sockpuppetry' ":
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/22/wikipedia-ban-sock-puppet-...
Only six comments so far, if anyone wants to weigh in.
Edward Hands (Edwardx)
Sorry about that. Thanks for spotting that Charles. On 22 Oct 2013 13:05, "Charles Matthews" < charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On 22 October 2013 12:35, Stevie Benton <stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk
wrote:
Hello everyone,
I've just encountered a Wikipedia essay from a user called Antandrus. It's from 2006/7 or so initially but much of it still holds true.
It may be familiar to you but thought you might like it, too - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Antandrus/observations_on_Wikipedia_...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Antandrus/observations_on_Wikipedia_behav...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Antandrus/observations_on_Wikipedia_behavior
for the thing itself, rather than the talk page. The grand-daddy of such lists is of course
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Raul%27s_laws
Charles
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