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Al Tally

18 Aug 2008 18 Aug '08

3:11 a.m.

Having just spoken to someone on IRC, I would like some clarification about who can actually attend the AGM. Thanks. -- Alex (User:Majorly)

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Alison Wheeler

18 Aug 18 Aug

3:57 a.m.

On Sun, August 17, 2008 20:11, Al Tally wrote:

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Having just spoken to someone on IRC, I would like some clarification about who can actually attend the AGM. Thanks.

Tom Holden

4:10 a.m.

Well I think you can safely take the recent discussions as a request by all those participating in them (not least Thomas, Al and myself) for membership of the company. And I'm not sure Delphine's e-mail can be interpreted as anything but a request for this membership to be offered to (at least) everyone currently on this list. I (amongst others) sent off a request for guarantor membership over a year ago, so since that doesn't seem to have brought me any closer to becoming a member of the company, it would be good to know what exactly we do have to do to become company members. Tom 2008/8/17 Alison Wheeler <wikimedia(a)alisonwheeler.com>

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On Sun, August 17, 2008 20:11, Al Tally wrote:

Having just spoken to someone on IRC, I would like some clarification about who can actually attend the AGM. Thanks.

um, I'm not sure how I can be any clearer than what I wrote earlier! "The AGM required by Company law is that of Wiki Educational Resources Ltd and those entitled to attend are, therefore, the registered <members of the company>. It is, has been, and always will be open to recipients of this list and others to request to register themselves as such members and, should people be interested in standing for election to the WER Ltd Board then they need to be so registered." AMW _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l

Sean Whitton

4:14 a.m.

On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 08:57:51PM +0100, Alison Wheeler wrote:

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On Sun, August 17, 2008 20:11, Al Tally wrote:

Having just spoken to someone on IRC, I would like some clarification about who can actually attend the AGM. Thanks.

So essentially, members of the company can go, and anyone on this list can apply to be a member of the company and they could then go? Sean -- —Sean Whitton / <sean(a)silentflame.com> OpenPGP KeyID: 0x25F4EAB7

joseph seddon

4:21 a.m.

How are the money issues going to be handled?

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Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:57:51 +0100> From: wikimedia(a)alisonwheeler.com> To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM - who can attend?> > On Sun, August 17, 2008 20:11, Al Tally wrote:> > Having just spoken to someone on IRC, I would like some clarification> > about who can actually attend the AGM. Thanks.> > um, I'm not sure how I can be any clearer than what I wrote earlier!> > "The AGM required by Company law is that of Wiki Educational Resources Ltd> and those entitled to attend are, therefore, the registered <members of> the company>. It is, has been, and always will be open to recipients of> this list and others to request to register themselves as such members> and, should people be interested in standing for election to the WER Ltd> Board then they need to be so registered."> > AMW> > > _______________________________________________> Wikimedia UK mailing list> wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l

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Tom Holden

4:27 a.m.

There are, as I understand, no money issues with membership of the company. (They only need to get money out of us if the company goes bankrupt.) Tom 2008/8/17 joseph seddon <life_is_bitter_sweet(a)hotmail.co.uk>

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How are the money issues going to be handled? ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:57:51 +0100 From: wikimedia(a)alisonwheeler.com To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM - who can attend?

On Sun, August 17, 2008 20:11, Al Tally wrote:

Having just spoken to someone on IRC, I would like some clarification about who can actually attend the AGM. Thanks.

um, I'm not sure how I can be any clearer than what I wrote earlier! "The AGM required by Company law is that of Wiki Educational Resources

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and those entitled to attend are, therefore, the registered <members of the company>. It is, has been, and always will be open to recipients of this list and others to request to register themselves as such members and, should people be interested in standing for election to the WER Ltd Board then they need to be so registered." AMW _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l

joseph seddon

4:39 a.m.

Alison Wheeler stated: Generally it was felt to be in the bestinterests of the organisation as a whole that anyone active on the Companyside (including being a member) should also be a supporting (Chapter)member although it cannot be a 'compulsory' issue. So is this being wavered in that for now, in that membership of the company for the time being will not include membership of the chapter, until the time comes where we have a bank account? or is it that payment is being help off till a bank account is available? Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:27:52 +0100From: thomas.holden(a)gmail.comTo: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.orgSubject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM - who can attend? There are, as I understand, no money issues with membership of the company. (They only need to get money out of us if the company goes bankrupt.)Tom 2008/8/17 joseph seddon <life_is_bitter_sweet(a)hotmail.co.uk> How are the money issues going to be handled?

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Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:57:51 +0100> From: wikimedia(a)alisonwheeler.com> To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM - who can attend?

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> On Sun, August 17, 2008 20:11, Al Tally wrote:> > Having just spoken to someone on IRC, I would like some clarification> > about who can actually attend the AGM. Thanks.> > um, I'm not sure how I can be any clearer than what I wrote earlier!> > "The AGM required by Company law is that of Wiki Educational Resources Ltd> and those entitled to attend are, therefore, the registered <members of> the company>. It is, has been, and always will be open to recipients of> this list and others to request to register themselves as such members> and, should people be interested in standing for election to the WER Ltd> Board then they need to be so registered."> > AMW> > > _______________________________________________> Wikimedia UK mailing list> wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l

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Tom Holden

4:45 a.m.

Well, I think you can safely assume that the existing members of the company are not currently paying chapter fees (though I'm sure some of them have used their personal funds for WMUK related work). The chapter membership for company membership requirement is certainly not a legal one, and in the circumstances waving it seems as essential as it is trivial. Tom 2008/8/17 joseph seddon <life_is_bitter_sweet(a)hotmail.co.uk>

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Alison Wheeler stated: *Generally it was felt to be in the best interests of the organisation as a whole that anyone active on the Company side (including being a member) should also be a supporting (Chapter) member although it cannot be a 'compulsory' issue.* So is this being wavered in that for now, in that membership of the company for the time being will not include membership of the chapter, until the time comes where we have a bank account? or is it that payment is being help off till a bank account is available? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:27:52 +0100 From: thomas.holden(a)gmail.com To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM - who can attend? There are, as I understand, no money issues with membership of the company. (They only need to get money out of us if the company goes bankrupt.) Tom 2008/8/17 joseph seddon <life_is_bitter_sweet(a)hotmail.co.uk> How are the money issues going to be handled? ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:57:51 +0100 From: wikimedia(a)alisonwheeler.com To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM - who can attend?

On Sun, August 17, 2008 20:11, Al Tally wrote:

Having just spoken to someone on IRC, I would like some clarification about who can actually attend the AGM. Thanks.

um, I'm not sure how I can be any clearer than what I wrote earlier! "The AGM required by Company law is that of Wiki Educational Resources

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Thomas Dalton

4:55 a.m.

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So is this being wavered in that for now, in that membership of the company for the time being will not include membership of the chapter, until the time comes where we have a bank account? or is it that payment is being help off till a bank account is available?

That's the question I'm still waiting on an answer to. There are plenty of us here that I'm sure will send off applications for membership as soon as we're told what we're actually able to apply for. As far as I'm aware, all applications that have been sent off so far have been essentially ignored due to the lack of a bank account, and that's why no-one has sent any applications recently. I'm not going to send off an application until I'm told something is actually going to be done with it. So, Alison, can interested parties send in applications for guarantor membership (without an associated chapter membership) and get them accepted at the current time?

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