Not very exciting I'm afraid! I've typed in the response I received below. The abridged version:
* They admit that the HMRC Charities Unit are well behind their response targets * The cause is the changes to the income tax rates plus an increase in applications * They have trained more staff and changed their computer system to cope with the backlog and improved their advice to applicants
regards,
Andrew Turvey Secretary, Wikimedia UK Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited. Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United Kingdom.
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18 May
Dear Mr Turvey,
Please find enclosed a response received from the Minister at the Treasury regarding the questions you raised about Gift Aid.
I hope the reply is of assistance but if you have further questions or concerns please do not hesitate to contact Nick's office again.
Yours sincerely,
Parliamentary Assistant to Nick Palmer MP
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From: Stephen Timms, Financial Secretary to the Treasury.
11 May
Dear Nick,
Thank you for your letter of 25 March to Alistair Darling enclosing correspondence from your constituent, Andrew Turvey, Secretary of Wiki UK Limited of 23 Cartwright Way, Beeston, Nottingham, about Gift Aid. I have been asked to reply
I am sorry that Mr Turvey experienced delays in receiving a response from HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) to his enquiries.
As you may know, organisations not already registered with the Charity Commission must apply to HMRC for recognition as a charity for tax purposes. In 2008-09, HMRC aimed to respond to 85% of these applications within 15 (working) days, 95% within 40 days and the balance within 60. The number of new applications increased by 19% in 2008-09, and this increased workload was a factor in HMRC not meeting its 15 day target. However, HMRC did consider 98% of applications within 40 days and 100% within 60 working days. A response to the application from Wikimedia Ltd (sic), asking for further information to support the application, was issued after 51 days.
HMRC is working on improvements to make the application process easier, to help organisations to get it right first time and so reduce the number of applications needing enquiries. This will, in turn, reduce the waiting time for new applicants.
Mr. Turvey says that it is taking HMRC six weeks to process Gift Aid repayment claims. HMRC aims to repay 97% of complete and correct claims within 15 days and first claims within 25 days. For 2008-09 a little over 50% of claims were repaid within 15 days. This delay has been caused by a greater than usual number of incorrect claims following the change to the basic rate of tax and the introduction of the Transitional Relief. HMRC hopes to resume its normal target now that additional staff have been trained and changes to the repayments computer application have been made.
I understand that HMRC has recently written to Mr Turvey about his application.
Please pass on my thanks to Mr Turvey for taking the trouble to raise his concerns about this with us.
Yours ever,
Steven
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bimmler" mbimmler@gmail.com To: "Andrew Turvey" raturvey@yahoo.co.uk, wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Friday, 22 May, 2009 17:23:30 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Minutes of the last meeting
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Andrew Turvey raturvey@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
AT reported two items of correspondence:
# A letter from our MP, with a response from the minister responsible regarding the HMRC delays.
Any chance that this letter or at least a summary will be made public, at least amongst members?
Thanks, M.
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Andrew Turvey andrewrturvey@googlemail.com wrote:
Not very exciting I'm afraid! I've typed in the response I received below.
Thanks nonetheless for sharing!
best, M
Just to let you know, our case was mentioned in a "Charity News Alerts" new story dealing with HMRC delays.
http://www.charityfinance.co.uk/home/content.php?id=2838&pg=15&cat=5...
Regards,
Andrew
On May 22, 6:52 pm, Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote:
Not very exciting I'm afraid! I've typed in the response I received below. The abridged version:
- They admit that the HMRC Charities Unit are well behind their response targets
- The cause is the changes to the income tax rates plus an increase in applications
- They have trained more staff and changed their computer system to cope with the backlog and improved their advice to applicants
regards,
Andrew Turvey Secretary, Wikimedia UK Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited. Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United Kingdom.
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18 May
Dear Mr Turvey,
Please find enclosed a response received from the Minister at the Treasury regarding the questions you raised about Gift Aid.
I hope the reply is of assistance but if you have further questions or concerns please do not hesitate to contact Nick's office again.
Yours sincerely,
Parliamentary Assistant to Nick Palmer MP
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From: Stephen Timms, Financial Secretary to the Treasury.
11 May
Dear Nick,
Thank you for your letter of 25 March to Alistair Darling enclosing correspondence from your constituent, Andrew Turvey, Secretary of Wiki UK Limited of 23 Cartwright Way, Beeston, Nottingham, about Gift Aid. I have been asked to reply
I am sorry that Mr Turvey experienced delays in receiving a response from HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) to his enquiries.
As you may know, organisations not already registered with the Charity Commission must apply to HMRC for recognition as a charity for tax purposes. In 2008-09, HMRC aimed to respond to 85% of these applications within 15 (working) days, 95% within 40 days and the balance within 60. The number of new applications increased by 19% in 2008-09, and this increased workload was a factor in HMRC not meeting its 15 day target. However, HMRC did consider 98% of applications within 40 days and 100% within 60 working days. A response to the application from Wikimedia Ltd (sic), asking for further information to support the application, was issued after 51 days.
HMRC is working on improvements to make the application process easier, to help organisations to get it right first time and so reduce the number of applications needing enquiries. This will, in turn, reduce the waiting time for new applicants.
Mr. Turvey says that it is taking HMRC six weeks to process Gift Aid repayment claims. HMRC aims to repay 97% of complete and correct claims within 15 days and first claims within 25 days. For 2008-09 a little over 50% of claims were repaid within 15 days. This delay has been caused by a greater than usual number of incorrect claims following the change to the basic rate of tax and the introduction of the Transitional Relief. HMRC hopes to resume its normal target now that additional staff have been trained and changes to the repayments computer application have been made.
I understand that HMRC has recently written to Mr Turvey about his application.
Please pass on my thanks to Mr Turvey for taking the trouble to raise his concerns about this with us.
Yours ever,
Steven
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bimmler" mbimm...@gmail.com To: "Andrew Turvey" ratur...@yahoo.co.uk, wikimediau...@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Friday, 22 May, 2009 17:23:30 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Minutes of the last meeting
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Andrew Turvey ratur...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
AT reported two items of correspondence:
# A letter from our MP, with a response from the minister responsible regarding the HMRC delays.
Any chance that this letter or at least a summary will be made public, at least amongst members?
Thanks, M.
-- Michael Bimmler mbimm...@gmail.com
Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.orghttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK:http://uk.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.orghttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK:http://uk.wikimedia.org
2009/5/31 andrewrturvey@googlemail.com:
Just to let you know, our case was mentioned in a "Charity News Alerts" new story dealing with HMRC delays. http://www.charityfinance.co.uk/home/content.php?id=2838&pg=15&cat=5...
I see no mention at that link ...
- d.
2009/5/31 David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com:
2009/5/31 andrewrturvey@googlemail.com:
Just to let you know, our case was mentioned in a "Charity News Alerts" new story dealing with HMRC delays. http://www.charityfinance.co.uk/home/content.php?id=2838&pg=15&cat=5...
I see no mention at that link ...
Ah, you mean the Nick Palmer bit in the last paragraph?
- d.
I would assume that is it.
Mark
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 8:30 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
2009/5/31 David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com:
2009/5/31 andrewrturvey@googlemail.com:
Just to let you know, our case was mentioned in a "Charity News Alerts" new story dealing with HMRC delays. http://www.charityfinance.co.uk/home/content.php?id=2838&pg=15&cat=5...
I see no mention at that link ...
Ah, you mean the Nick Palmer bit in the last paragraph?
- d.
Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Andrew: I don't see any reference to WMUK in that article. Did you meant to say it referred to another germane topic, or am I simply being dense? AGK
"Nick Palmer MP had contacted the Chancellor, Alistair Darling, about the issue on behalf of a charity in his constituency that had experienced a delay."
"a charity in his constituency" == us.
Pity they didn't mention us by name...
Mike
On 31 May 2009, at 20:30, AGK wrote:
Andrew: I don't see any reference to WMUK in that article. Did you meant to say it referred to another germane topic, or am I simply being dense?
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Thanks Mike, that's the one! Sorry I didn't make it more explicit. The details of response times etc. are the same as the details in our letter I previously typed up here .
regards,
Andrew
----- "Michael Peel" email@mikepeel.net wrote:
From: "Michael Peel" email@mikepeel.net To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, 31 May, 2009 20:37:17 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Minutes of the last meeting
"Nick Palmer MP had contacted the Chancellor, Alistair Darling, about the issue on behalf of a charity in his constituency that had experienced a delay."
"a charity in his constituency" == us.
Pity they didn't mention us by name...
Mike
On 31 May 2009, at 20:30, AGK wrote:
Andrew: I don't see any reference to WMUK in that article. Did you meant to say it referred to another germane topic, or am I simply being dense?
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