We had a discussion at a recent Wikimedia UK board meeting about potentially buying some digitisation equipment which could be used to generate content for the Wikimedia projects. This recent email to the EN-WP list sparked my interest.
Does anyone have any experience with equipment like this, and could you recommend anything? Any idea what the price range and quality typically is?
Also, is anyone else in the Wikimedia community currently doing this?
Thanks,
---- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Steve Bennett" stevagewp@gmail.com To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, 23 August, 2009 10:55:32 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:15 PM, David Gerarddgerard@gmail.com wrote:
I believe they have machines to turn pages, and something to figure out the distorted photo of the book and render it how it would look as a flat page.
Yeah, there are videos of these machines. The book sits open, the scanner comes down and scans both open pages at once. As it goes up again, it sucks on one page, causing it to flip over. Then repeat.
Oh, look, here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlOQuuLYavY
And while we're at it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_scanning
Steve
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2009/8/26 Andrew Turvey andrewrturvey@googlemail.com:
We had a discussion at a recent Wikimedia UK board meeting about potentially buying some digitisation equipment which could be used to generate content for the Wikimedia projects. This recent email to the EN-WP list sparked my interest.
What do we want to digitise? I think that needs to be worked out before we can determine what kind of equipment we need.
----- "Thomas Dalton" thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
2009/8/26 Andrew Turvey andrewrturvey@googlemail.com:
We had a discussion at a recent Wikimedia UK board meeting about potentially buying some digitisation equipment which could be used to generate content for the Wikimedia projects. This recent email to the EN-WP list sparked my interest.
What do we want to digitise? I think that needs to be worked out before we can determine what kind of equipment we need.
The idea was books but it very much depends on how much it costs and what it can be used for.
2009/8/27 Andrew Turvey andrewrturvey@googlemail.com:
The idea was books but it very much depends on how much it costs and what it can be used for.
What kind of books?
2009/8/27 Andrew Turvey andrewrturvey@googlemail.com:
----- "Thomas Dalton" thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
2009/8/26 Andrew Turvey andrewrturvey@googlemail.com:
We had a discussion at a recent Wikimedia UK board meeting about potentially buying some digitisation equipment which could be used to generate content for the Wikimedia projects. This recent email to the EN-WP list sparked my interest.
What do we want to digitise? I think that needs to be worked out before we can determine what kind of equipment we need.
The idea was books but it very much depends on how much it costs and what it can be used for.
Unlikely to be able to do much existing book digitalisation projects cannot. Better targets are things that no one else appears to be looking to scan or where higher res scans are needed. for example this collection:
http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/server/show/nav.20088
You're raising this for discussion _now_, amongst everything else that's going on?
If I recall correctly, the WMUK board meeting discussion was provoked by a comment I made earlier in the meeting. My original thought was that a flat-bed scanner or similar could potentially be very useful to museums in terms of digitizing old images/documents etc. I would imagine that a high-quality one of these would cost a few hundred pounds -- whereas the book scanning machine as described is either something that likely would cost tens of thousands of pounds, or would have to be created on a custom basis.
Of course, the real expense with digitization is not the machinery, but the costs involved with hiring someone to operate it, feed it material and process the results. The last part is where wikimedia can be of most use, IMO. It's an open question of how much more of the process we'd have to be involved in so that the digitization happens, which would vary depending on the current status of the digitization efforts at each institution and also the capabilities/ resources available at the institution.
Mike
On 26 Aug 2009, at 23:28, Andrew Turvey wrote:
{ margin: 0; } We had a discussion at a recent Wikimedia UK board meeting about potentially buying some digitisation equipment which could be used to generate content for the Wikimedia projects. This recent email to the EN-WP list sparked my interest.
Does anyone have any experience with equipment like this, and could you recommend anything? Any idea what the price range and quality typically is?
Also, is anyone else in the Wikimedia community currently doing this?
Thanks,
---- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Steve Bennett" stevagewp@gmail.com To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, 23 August, 2009 10:55:32 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:15 PM, David Gerarddgerard@gmail.com wrote:
I believe they have machines to turn pages, and something to figure out the distorted photo of the book and render it how it would
look as
a flat page.
Yeah, there are videos of these machines. The book sits open, the scanner comes down and scans both open pages at once. As it goes up again, it sucks on one page, causing it to flip over. Then repeat.
Oh, look, here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlOQuuLYavY
And while we're at it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_scanning
Steve
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At 08:58 +0100 27/8/09, Michael Peel wrote:
You're raising this for discussion _now_, amongst everything else that's going on?
If I recall correctly, the WMUK board meeting discussion was provoked by a comment I made earlier in the meeting. My original thought was that a flat-bed scanner or similar could potentially be very useful to museums in terms of digitizing old images/documents etc.
I believe that high volume digitization is done by a rostrum camera, not a scanner.
Gordo
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