Hi all,
on this talk pagehttp://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:EGM_2013/Resolutions#Alternatives_to_Resolution_regarding_the_composition_of_the_board I have asked some questions regarding the goals and purpose of the resolution proposed, and what problem exactly it is trying to solve. I also tried to understand better what alternatives have been investigated (personally I find the proposed solution a bit strong as a first thought, so I am assuming less far reaching alternatives were seriously given consideration to solve the same problem).
I may have missed part of the discussions, so would appreciate any help in filling the gaps in reasoning at that page.
Also a more technical question: would it still be possible to pass alternative resolutions (for example, were the board-proposed resolution to be rejected)? Or has the term for that been passed and would you have to wait until the next General Meeting for that?
Apologies that I didn't ask these questions in a much earlier stage - I do hope and assume someone else did and the answer can simply be copy pasted. Placing the answers on the linked talk page would be most helpful (rather than starting off a discussion here).
Kind regards,
Lodewijk
I'm speaking as an EGM teller here:
[W]ould it still be possible to pass alternative resolutions (for example,
were the board-proposed resolution to be rejected)? Or has the term for that been passed and would you have to wait until the next General Meeting for that?
It's not possible to pass alternative resolutions at the EGM unfortunately. Any new resolutions would have to be tabled at the AGM in June 2013.
Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992
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On 9 April 2013 17:38, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Hi all,
on this talk pagehttp://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:EGM_2013/Resolutions#Alternatives_to_Resolution_regarding_the_composition_of_the_board I have asked some questions regarding the goals and purpose of the resolution proposed, and what problem exactly it is trying to solve. I also tried to understand better what alternatives have been investigated (personally I find the proposed solution a bit strong as a first thought, so I am assuming less far reaching alternatives were seriously given consideration to solve the same problem).
I may have missed part of the discussions, so would appreciate any help in filling the gaps in reasoning at that page.
Also a more technical question: would it still be possible to pass alternative resolutions (for example, were the board-proposed resolution to be rejected)? Or has the term for that been passed and would you have to wait until the next General Meeting for that?
Apologies that I didn't ask these questions in a much earlier stage - I do hope and assume someone else did and the answer can simply be copy pasted. Placing the answers on the linked talk page would be most helpful (rather than starting off a discussion here).
Kind regards,
Lodewijk
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Thanks for the clarification on that.
2013/4/9 Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk
I'm speaking as an EGM teller here:
[W]ould it still be possible to pass alternative resolutions (for example,
were the board-proposed resolution to be rejected)? Or has the term for that been passed and would you have to wait until the next General Meeting for that?
It's not possible to pass alternative resolutions at the EGM unfortunately. Any new resolutions would have to be tabled at the AGM in June 2013.
Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992
Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
*Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
On 9 April 2013 17:38, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Hi all,
on this talk pagehttp://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:EGM_2013/Resolutions#Alternatives_to_Resolution_regarding_the_composition_of_the_board I have asked some questions regarding the goals and purpose of the resolution proposed, and what problem exactly it is trying to solve. I also tried to understand better what alternatives have been investigated (personally I find the proposed solution a bit strong as a first thought, so I am assuming less far reaching alternatives were seriously given consideration to solve the same problem).
I may have missed part of the discussions, so would appreciate any help in filling the gaps in reasoning at that page.
Also a more technical question: would it still be possible to pass alternative resolutions (for example, were the board-proposed resolution to be rejected)? Or has the term for that been passed and would you have to wait until the next General Meeting for that?
Apologies that I didn't ask these questions in a much earlier stage - I do hope and assume someone else did and the answer can simply be copy pasted. Placing the answers on the linked talk page would be most helpful (rather than starting off a discussion here).
Kind regards,
Lodewijk
Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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I've been trying to make those points myself, but I've given up now... On 9 Apr 2013 17:39, "Lodewijk" lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Hi all,
on this talk pagehttp://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:EGM_2013/Resolutions#Alternatives_to_Resolution_regarding_the_composition_of_the_board I have asked some questions regarding the goals and purpose of the resolution proposed, and what problem exactly it is trying to solve. I also tried to understand better what alternatives have been investigated (personally I find the proposed solution a bit strong as a first thought, so I am assuming less far reaching alternatives were seriously given consideration to solve the same problem).
I may have missed part of the discussions, so would appreciate any help in filling the gaps in reasoning at that page.
Also a more technical question: would it still be possible to pass alternative resolutions (for example, were the board-proposed resolution to be rejected)? Or has the term for that been passed and would you have to wait until the next General Meeting for that?
Apologies that I didn't ask these questions in a much earlier stage - I do hope and assume someone else did and the answer can simply be copy pasted. Placing the answers on the linked talk page would be most helpful (rather than starting off a discussion here).
Kind regards,
Lodewijk
Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
I believe that quorum is about 30 people, but there are only 20 names on the list here:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/EGM_2013
Given the importance of this agenda, can WMUK assure members that meeting will indeed be quorate? Or is the sign up list not representative?
Gordo
I'd bet some proxy people (myself included) haven't signed up there...
Best Simon
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I believe that quorum is about 30 people, but there are only 20 names on the list here:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/EGM_2013
Given the importance of this agenda, can WMUK assure members that meeting will indeed be quorate? Or is the sign up list not representative?
Gordo
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The quorum figure includes proxy votes not present.
I doubt WMUK can absolutely assure people of quoracy, given it's dependent on whether those same people turn up!
Andrew.
On Wednesday, 10 April 2013, Gordon Joly wrote:
I believe that quorum is about 30 people, but there are only 20 names on the list here:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/**EGM_2013http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/EGM_2013
Given the importance of this agenda, can WMUK assure members that meeting will indeed be quorate? Or is the sign up list not representative?
Gordo
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There'll be a reminder going out. We will almost certainly be quorate once proxies are included - but we're not quite there yet, so do make sure you get your votes in!
Richard Symonds Teller 0207 065 0992
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On 10 April 2013 09:04, Gordon Joly gordon.joly@pobox.com wrote:
On 10/04/13 08:47, Andrew Gray wrote:
I doubt WMUK can absolutely assure people of quoracy, given it's dependent on whether those same people turn up!
Indeed. How about a reminder to members?
Gordo
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A reminder's now been sent to all members. If you haven't received a copy and think that you should have, then please email membership@wikimedia.org.uk to let us know.
Thanks, Mike
On 10 Apr 2013, at 12:44, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
There'll be a reminder going out. We will almost certainly be quorate once proxies are included - but we're not quite there yet, so do make sure you get your votes in!
Richard Symonds Teller 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.
On 10 April 2013 09:04, Gordon Joly gordon.joly@pobox.com wrote: On 10/04/13 08:47, Andrew Gray wrote:
I doubt WMUK can absolutely assure people of quoracy, given it's dependent on whether those same people turn up!
Indeed. How about a reminder to members?
Gordo
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