Folks,
I learned today that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanhill_railway_station was the one-millionth English Wikipedia article so I've boldly written to Transport Scotland to see if they'd be interested in putting a (blue) plaque on the station, noting that fact, and featuring a QRpedia code - after all, the article has 22 other-language versions.
Fingers crossed!
There was such a plan at the time - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Jordanhill_commemoration. Despite a lot of discussion (on the talk page), it seems it never went anywhere.
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
Folks,
I learned today that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanhill_railway_station was the one-millionth English Wikipedia article so I've boldly written to Transport Scotland to see if they'd be interested in putting a (blue) plaque on the station, noting that fact, and featuring a QRpedia code
- after all, the article has 22 other-language versions.
Fingers crossed!
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On 19 December 2011 03:14, Mickey Conn mickey.conn@gmail.com wrote:
There was such a plan at the time - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Jordanhill_commemoration. Despite a lot of discussion (on the talk page), it seems it never went anywhere.
I'm a believer in the JFDI way of working...
Articles are being deleted and created all the time, so even if it's not /entirely/ accurate, it's as close to the 'one millionth' article status as we're ever likely to get. At the very least, a plaque could get some recognition in the local press.
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On 19 December 2011 03:14, Mickey Conn mickey.conn@gmail.com wrote:
There was such a plan at the time - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Jordanhill_commemoration. Despite a lot of discussion (on the talk page), it seems it never went anywhere.
I'm a believer in the JFDI way of working...
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On 19/12/2011 14:48, Richard Symonds wrote:
Articles are being deleted and created all the time, so even if it's not /entirely/ accurate, it's as close to the 'one millionth' article status as we're ever likely to get. At the very least, a plaque could get some recognition in the local press.
Yes, I agree... the token millionth!
:-)
Gordo
Can we ask the UK board to consider offering to fund this?
Then make sure we get a photo on Commons
WereSpielChequers
On 19 December 2011 15:20, Gordon Joly gordon.joly@pobox.com wrote:
** On 19/12/2011 14:48, Richard Symonds wrote:
Articles are being deleted and created all the time, so even if it's not*/entirely/* accurate, it's as close to the 'one millionth' article status as we're ever likely to get. At the very least, a plaque could get some recognition in the local press.
Yes, I agree... the token millionth!
:-)
Gordo
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http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Microgrants
Sounds like a great idea to me - apply here
Steve
From: wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of WereSpielChequers Sent: 19 December 2011 18:03 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal for plaque marking that Jordanhill station was subject of one-millionth Wikipedia article
Can we ask the UK board to consider offering to fund this?
Then make sure we get a photo on Commons
WereSpielChequers
On 19 December 2011 15:20, Gordon Joly gordon.joly@pobox.com wrote:
On 19/12/2011 14:48, Richard Symonds wrote:
Articles are being deleted and created all the time, so even if it's not /entirely/ accurate, it's as close to the 'one millionth' article status as we're ever likely to get. At the very least, a plaque could get some recognition in the local press.
Yes, I agree... the token millionth!
:-)
Gordo
I'm sure that we can consider this, but we'd need to know the expected costs - and I suspect funding isn't the main issue here, permission to put the plaque up is?
Thanks, Mike
On 19 Dec 2011, at 18:06, steve virgin wrote:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Microgrants
Sounds like a great idea to me – apply here
Steve
From: wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of WereSpielChequers Sent: 19 December 2011 18:03 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal for plaque marking that Jordanhill station was subject of one-millionth Wikipedia article
Can we ask the UK board to consider offering to fund this?
Then make sure we get a photo on Commons
WereSpielChequers
On 19 December 2011 15:20, Gordon Joly gordon.joly@pobox.com wrote: On 19/12/2011 14:48, Richard Symonds wrote: Articles are being deleted and created all the time, so even if it's not /entirely/ accurate, it's as close to the 'one millionth' article status as we're ever likely to get. At the very least, a plaque could get some recognition in the local press. Yes, I agree... the token millionth!
:-)
Gordo
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On 19 December 2011 18:02, WereSpielChequers werespielchequers@gmail.com wrote:
Can we ask the UK board to consider offering to fund this?
It is my intention first to suggest that the rail com[any/ies involved, or Scottish Trasnport, might do so.
Adding a note about a putative plaque might make a nice millionth edit for someone. :-)
On 19/12/2011 20:09, Andy Mabbett wrote:
On 19 December 2011 18:02, WereSpielChequers werespielchequers@gmail.com wrote:
Can we ask the UK board to consider offering to fund this?
It is my intention first to suggest that the rail com[any/ies involved, or Scottish Trasnport, might do so.
Andy,
Do let us know when you get a reply from them!
Richard
On 29 December 2011 17:28, Richard Farmbrough richard@farmbrough.co.ukwrote:
Adding a note about a putative plaque might make a nice millionth edit for someone. :-)
On 19/12/2011 20:09, Andy Mabbett wrote:
On 19 December 2011 18:02, WereSpielChequers werespielchequers@gmail.com wrote:
Can we ask the UK board to consider offering to fund this?
It is my intention first to suggest that the rail com[any/ies involved, or Scottish Trasnport, might do so.
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On 17/12/2011 00:06, Andy Mabbett wrote:
Folks,
I learned today that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanhill_railway_station was the one-millionth English Wikipedia article so I've boldly written to Transport Scotland to see if they'd be interested in putting a (blue) plaque on the station, noting that fact, and featuring a QRpedia code
- after all, the article has 22 other-language versions.
Fingers crossed!
I millionth article.... "approximately"?
Gordo
On 19 December 2011 13:26, Gordon Joly gordon.joly@pobox.com wrote:
On 17/12/2011 00:06, Andy Mabbett wrote:
I learned today that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanhill_railway_station was the one-millionth English Wikipedia article
I millionth article.... "approximately"?
No. There's a link to a FAQ on the article's talked page, which explains the metrics used.
On 19/12/2011 13:35, Andy Mabbett wrote:
On 19 December 2011 13:26, Gordon Jolygordon.joly@pobox.com wrote:
On 17/12/2011 00:06, Andy Mabbett wrote:
I learned today that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanhill_railway_station was the one-millionth English Wikipedia article
I millionth article.... "approximately"?
No. There's a link to a FAQ on the article's talked page, which explains the metrics used.
I read this http://bit.ly/rWtSLz which shows that the article numbered at 999,999 (One million articles) does not exist....
A counter was set to measure the creation of articles, many of which were deleted later deleted, and the counter reached 1,000,000 for "Jordanhill station"
In other words, when "Jordanhill station" was created there were less that one million live articles live on the English Wikipedia just like "One million articles" is now (it is red).
Gordo
On 19 December 2011 14:21, Gordon Joly gordon.joly@pobox.com wrote:
On 19/12/2011 13:35, Andy Mabbett wrote:
On 19 December 2011 13:26, Gordon Jolygordon.joly@pobox.com wrote:
On 17/12/2011 00:06, Andy Mabbett wrote:
I learned today that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanhill_railway_station was the one-millionth English Wikipedia article
I millionth article.... "approximately"?
No. There's a link to a FAQ on the article's talked page, which explains the metrics used.
I read this http://bit.ly/rWtSLz which shows that the article numbered at 999,999 (One million articles) does not exist....
I mentioned the FAQ in the hope that people would read it... ;-)
If one makes a fuss over the article it needs a bit of improvement. The best part of it is the accident in 1980 when several people were seriously injured, the rebuilding plans sound odd, surely they would need to have got underway by now if they finish in 2014 and the section "In the area" looks like a WP:NOT failure to me. The station has little to inspire photographs being just platforms, a walkway and a waiting room but with no facilities.
However a photograph of someone holding a cardboard sign on the platform saying "1,000,000th Wikipedia article!" might be so sad that it would be a start of a campaign to recognize it. I'm not sure that needs a budget.
As this was "approximately" the 1,000,000th article, was there nothing better nearby in front or behind the creation of this one?
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanhill_railway_station
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On 17 December 2011 00:06, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
I learned today that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanhill_railway_station was the one-millionth English Wikipedia article so I've boldly written to Transport Scotland to see if they'd be interested in putting a (blue) plaque on the station, noting that fact, and featuring a QRpedia code
- after all, the article has 22 other-language versions.
I have at long last received a reply from Transport Scotland. It's a splendid example of bureaucracy in action:
I have discussed with ScotRail your proposal to install a plaque at the station to mark the one-millionth article on Wikipedia about Jordanhill. We do not wish to take this forward.
ScotRail has been delivering a comprehensive station re-branding programme which began in 2008 and will be complete in 2014. There are Brand Guidelines in place for this programme which aims to simplify and unify all station branding and this includes the removal of information from third parties.
On 19 January 2012 12:16, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
ScotRail has been delivering a comprehensive station re-branding programme which began in 2008 and will be complete in 2014. There are Brand Guidelines in place for this programme which aims to simplify and unify all station branding and this includes the removal of information from third parties.
Does any other station in Scotland have plaques, and are ScotRail eliminating those as well?
- d.
On 19 January 2012 12:23, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 19 January 2012 12:16, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
ScotRail has been delivering a comprehensive station re-branding programme which began in 2008 and will be complete in 2014. There are Brand Guidelines in place for this programme which aims to simplify and unify all station branding and this includes the removal of information from third parties.
Does any other station in Scotland have plaques, and are ScotRail eliminating those as well?
[[WP:DEADHORSE]].
Charles
On 19 January 2012 12:35, Charles Matthews charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com wrote:
On 19 January 2012 12:23, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Does any other station in Scotland have plaques, and are ScotRail eliminating those as well?
[[WP:DEADHORSE]].
Sorry, I didn't mean in relation to this plaque - I mean regarding plaques in general as a good thing for a sense of history.
- d.
I've blogged about this here:
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/transport-scotland-scotrail-plaque-jordanhill-st...
On 19 January 2012 12:16, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 17 December 2011 00:06, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
I learned today that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanhill_railway_station was the one-millionth English Wikipedia article so I've boldly written to Transport Scotland to see if they'd be interested in putting a (blue) plaque on the station, noting that fact, and featuring a QRpedia code
- after all, the article has 22 other-language versions.
I have at long last received a reply from Transport Scotland. It's a splendid example of bureaucracy in action:
I have discussed with ScotRail your proposal to install a plaque at the station to mark the one-millionth article on Wikipedia about Jordanhill. We do not wish to take this forward.
ScotRail has been delivering a comprehensive station re-branding programme which began in 2008 and will be complete in 2014. There are Brand Guidelines in place for this programme which aims to simplify and unify all station branding and this includes the removal of information from third parties.
-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
They said no and were courteous enough to explain why, so persisting is unlikely to change their mind. The best thing to do would be to abandon the idea, but if you feel strongly about it at least wait a few months before trying again.
Nev1
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.ukwrote:
I've blogged about this here:
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/transport-scotland-scotrail-plaque-jordanhill-st...
On 19 January 2012 12:16, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 17 December 2011 00:06, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk
wrote:
I learned today that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanhill_railway_station was the one-millionth English Wikipedia article so I've boldly written to Transport Scotland to see if they'd be interested in putting a (blue) plaque on the station, noting that fact, and featuring a QRpedia code
- after all, the article has 22 other-language versions.
I have at long last received a reply from Transport Scotland. It's a splendid example of bureaucracy in action:
I have discussed with ScotRail your proposal to install a plaque at the station to mark the one-millionth article on Wikipedia about Jordanhill. We do not wish to take this forward.
ScotRail has been delivering a comprehensive station re-branding programme which began in 2008 and will be complete in 2014. There are Brand Guidelines in place for this programme which aims to simplify and unify all station branding and this includes the removal of information from third parties.
-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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Suspect you are right Nev, although Andy is helping with Monmouthpedia where we will have 1,000 codes .... and the local council are helping us! I anticipate that wwe have changed some peoples minds this week about which media is important.
Roger
On 19 January 2012 17:13, Nev1 nev1onwikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
They said no and were courteous enough to explain why, so persisting is unlikely to change their mind. The best thing to do would be to abandon the idea, but if you feel strongly about it at least wait a few months before trying again.
Nev1
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.ukwrote:
I've blogged about this here:
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/transport-scotland-scotrail-plaque-jordanhill-st...
On 19 January 2012 12:16, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 17 December 2011 00:06, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk
wrote:
I learned today that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanhill_railway_station was the one-millionth English Wikipedia article so I've boldly written to Transport Scotland to see if they'd be interested in putting a (blue) plaque on the station, noting that fact, and featuring a QRpedia code
- after all, the article has 22 other-language versions.
I have at long last received a reply from Transport Scotland. It's a splendid example of bureaucracy in action:
I have discussed with ScotRail your proposal to install a plaque at the station to mark the one-millionth article on Wikipedia about Jordanhill. We do not wish to take this forward.
ScotRail has been delivering a comprehensive station re-branding programme which began in 2008 and will be complete in 2014. There are Brand Guidelines in place for this programme which aims to simplify and unify all station branding and this includes the removal of information from third parties.
-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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On 19 January 2012 17:13, Nev1 nev1onwikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
They said no and were courteous enough to explain why, so persisting is unlikely to change their mind. The best thing to do would be to abandon the idea, but if you feel strongly about it at least wait a few months before trying again.
I'm not sure that's how a participatory democracy is supposed to work.
Andy I'm not sure how the old one worked, but Ive a feeling we are building one
On 20 January 2012 10:40, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 19 January 2012 17:13, Nev1 nev1onwikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
They said no and were courteous enough to explain why, so persisting is unlikely to change their mind. The best thing to do would be to abandon
the
idea, but if you feel strongly about it at least wait a few months before trying again.
I'm not sure that's how a participatory democracy is supposed to work.
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