If I'm reading Philippe's edit summary right, he seems to be reverting because WLL is apparently covered by a centralnotice, and so it doesn't need a geonotice as well. If that's the case, then WMF or not, it's just housekeeping. Harry ________________________________ From: Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com> To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Friday, 7 October 2011, 11:23 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMF veto on geonotices? Hi, I was surprised when Fæ named me as the person who got reverted. Turns out it isn't me. The whole sequence of events should be summarised thus: 1. Pharos added the original WLL (Wikipedia Loves Libraries) notice on 15 August http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Geonotice.js&diff=p… 2. Jalexander reverted on 16 August, citing a comment by Philippe. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AGeonotice.js&acti… 3. Pharos reverted again on the same day. The geonotice stayed. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Geonotice.js&diff=n… 4. Aude updated the WLL notice on 6 September. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Geonotice.js&diff=p… 5. Philippe took down all WLL geonotices today. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AGeonotice.js&acti… UK geonotices were involved in this incident. However, since the UK community is a major user of en.wp geonotices, I do recommend that we participate in the discussion Fæ initiated on the talk-page. Deryck On 7 October 2011 09:13, Fae <faenwp(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi, _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

On 7 October 2011 13:02, Fae <faenwp(a)gmail.com> wrote: The centralnotice was requested by the same person who set up the geonotice, and I'm guessing it's intended to ensure non-WP projects are notified (Commons and WS are likely "interested parties"). It's still targeted to the US and Canada only, but now running on multiple projects. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CentralNotice/Calendar There's no explicit policy I can see regarding not duplicating notices globally and locally, but it's something I've always understood to be discouraged. -- - Andrew Gray   andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk

Personally, I couldn't care less which of the various notices I see, but I wouldn't want to see two notices about the same thing.  I guess the CentralNotice has the advantage of being cross-project; we could always request a cross-project geonotice, but I'm sure the devs have more important things to do (like installing new software that breaks everything...). Harry  ________________________________ From: Chris Keating <chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com> To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Friday, 7 October 2011, 19:52 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMF veto on geonotices? I don't see how there can possibly be a problem with a Foundation staff member removing geonotices on the grounds that they are duplicated by CentralNotice. I also think CentralNotice is being over-used a bit. While there are circumstances where I could see the chapter making use of it (so long as it didn't conflict with the annual fundraiser) I definitely wouldn't be keen on us using geolocated centralnotices to advertise meetups, etc... Regards, Chris _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org