On 9 November 2013 02:21:48, Charles Matthews < charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com> wrote:
The bare bones, for something on enWS, would be
*choice from out of existing texts on WS of a range of works, none too hard to do (steer clear of special characters, heavy format and so on),
and
*a page with links to the Index pages?
With explanations of the traffic-light quality system, and an outline of the competition rules.
Setting up a page will be easy but first,
1) Is Wikimedia UK going to back this? 2) How is this going to work?
I'm not that familiar with all of the unfinished works on Wikisource at the moment but I think we might need to upload some new ones too.
If we do this, we need to work out what sort of works we want to use.
I think works from the late Victorian era or twentieth century would be the best choice. They probably won't have the special characters or formatting issues, for the most part. Novels might be better than poetry; the latter has less text but more formatting. More famous authors might make sense but may also feel redundant; I don't know if people would want to work on something that's already widely available elsewhere. I would like to include some mid-twentieth century stuff, as a gentle reminder than the public domain did not stop in 1900, but the only things I know that are available are some issues of Amazing Stories that I had planned to work on myself (which have some illustrations and a few pages with complicated formatting). There should probably be some variety so people not interested in one could swap to something else.
What are the competition rules? For example, do validations count? It would be nice to include that aspect of the project. Does proofread of non-competition list works count towards scoring? What if one person does some proofreading but the page is completed by another? Will Wikimedia UK award prizes to users outside the UK? Will Wikimedia UK award prizes?!
Some of my suggested answers:- * 2 points per proofread page * 1 point per validated page * Only works on the competition list count towards scoring * Works proofread by multiple people have the points divided equally among them, except... ** Merely saving OCR'd text without proofreading doesn't count for scoring * Blank pages do not count towards scoring * The importance of the location of the user is probably down to the chapter
If cy.ws is getting in on this, they need their own page and we need to decide if that is a separate competition or not. That is, will the most prolific on cy.ws get an e-reader AND the most prolific on en.ws gets an e-reader OR are they competing against each other for just one e-reader. Is it just en & cy or will Wikimedia UK support other competitions? Will it support a Polish or Bengali competition, for example, assuming they are running one? NB: I cannot find any administrators on cy.ws, so I don't know whom to ask.
Hi everyone,
If there are volunteers interested in taking the lead on this, Wikimedia UK are prepared to provide prize(s) and people outside the UK would be eligible.
It's encouraging to see discussion about how to make the competition work.
Richard
On 9 November 2013 23:39, info@cymruwales.com info@cymruwales.com wrote:
Adam and all
Defnyddiwr:Lloffiwr is an Admin on cy.ws:
https://cy.wikisource.org/wiki/Defnyddiwr:Lloffiwr
There aren't enough of us to enter the competition; but getting the system ready for mass upload would be good.
Diolch!
Robin Owain
On 09 November 2013 at 21:48 Adam Morgan wikisorcery@gmail.com wrote:
On 9 November 2013 02:21:48, Charles Matthews < charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com> wrote:
The bare bones, for something on enWS, would be
*choice from out of existing texts on WS of a range of works, none too hard to do (steer clear of special characters, heavy format and so on),
and
*a page with links to the Index pages?
With explanations of the traffic-light quality system, and an outline
of
the competition rules.
Setting up a page will be easy but first,
- Is Wikimedia UK going to back this?
- How is this going to work?
I'm not that familiar with all of the unfinished works on Wikisource at the moment but I think we might need to upload some new ones too.
If we do this, we need to work out what sort of works we want to use.
I think works from the late Victorian era or twentieth century would be the best choice. They probably won't have the special characters or formatting issues, for the most part. Novels might be better than poetry; the latter has less text but more formatting. More famous authors might make sense but may also feel redundant; I don't know if people would want to work on something that's already widely available elsewhere. I would like to include some mid-twentieth century stuff, as a gentle reminder than the public domain did not stop in 1900, but the only things I know that are available are some issues of Amazing Stories that I had planned to work on myself (which have some illustrations and a few pages with complicated formatting). There should probably be some variety so people not interested in one could swap to something else.
What are the competition rules? For example, do validations count? It would be nice to include that aspect of the project. Does proofread of non-competition list works count towards scoring? What if one person does some proofreading but the page is completed by another? Will Wikimedia UK award prizes to users outside the UK? Will Wikimedia UK award prizes?!
Some of my suggested answers:-
- 2 points per proofread page
- 1 point per validated page
- Only works on the competition list count towards scoring
- Works proofread by multiple people have the points divided equally
among them, except... ** Merely saving OCR'd text without proofreading doesn't count for scoring
- Blank pages do not count towards scoring
- The importance of the location of the user is probably down to the
chapter
If cy.ws is getting in on this, they need their own page and we need to decide if that is a separate competition or not. That is, will the most prolific on cy.ws get an e-reader AND the most prolific on en.ws gets an e-reader OR are they competing against each other for just one e-reader. Is it just en & cy or will Wikimedia UK support other competitions? Will it support a Polish or Bengali competition, for example, assuming they are running one? NB: I cannot find any administrators on cy.ws, so I don't know whom to ask.
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