What is the timetable for the forthcoming "independent review"?
We are still discussing this and will publish the details as soon as possible.
On 4 October 2012 15:52, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
What is the timetable for the forthcoming "independent review"?
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Minutes have been posted of a 9Oct12 meeting discussing the appointment of the independent reviewer:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes_9Oct12
Just out of interest, where it refers to "a preference to the ex-CC candidate", am I correct in assuming that CC stands for Charity Commission rather than Creative Commons?
Andreas
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Jon Davies jon.davies@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:
We are still discussing this and will publish the details as soon as possible.
On 4 October 2012 15:52, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
What is the timetable for the forthcoming "independent review"?
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Charity Commission indeed.
On 10 October 2012 14:45, Andreas Kolbe jayen466@gmail.com wrote:
Minutes have been posted of a 9Oct12 meeting discussing the appointment of the independent reviewer:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes_9Oct12
Just out of interest, where it refers to "a preference to the ex-CC candidate", am I correct in assuming that CC stands for Charity Commission rather than Creative Commons?
Andreas
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Jon Davies jon.davies@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:
We are still discussing this and will publish the details as soon as possible.
On 4 October 2012 15:52, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
What is the timetable for the forthcoming "independent review"?
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As with many other members I've been quite concerned with recent developments so I dialled into this public board meeting to hear for myself what was happening. I hope that showing an interest can be some help to the board in pulling together and repairing the damage.
I was actually quite impressed with what I heard. Although trustees seem to be feeling bruised by it all, it was good to see the board starting to pull together and start focussing on what can be done in the future. The board seemed very well advised both from their lawyers Stone King and from Jon who are both playing a very positive role in all this. I would definitely recommend anyone else who is interested and available to dial in as well and hear for themselves.
Regarding the terms of reference of the review, the minutes mention that they have been approved by WMUK. I got the impression that they still need to be signed off by the WMF and presumably the reviewer themselves may also have tweaks they want to make. When this is all done, would the board be prepared to publish the Terms of Reference so the community can see what's happening, see the timetable and can put their tu-p-orth in as they feel inclined?
Given that the final report is going to be published (according to the blog post [1] that announced the review) and the report will clearly include a description of the terms of reference, I can't see to be any reason on the surface not to do this at this stage.
Many thanks,
[1] http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2012/09/joint-statement-from-wikimedia-foundati...
Andrew
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Jon Davies jon.davies@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:
Charity Commission indeed.
On 10 October 2012 14:45, Andreas Kolbe jayen466@gmail.com wrote:
Minutes have been posted of a 9Oct12 meeting discussing the appointment of the independent reviewer:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes_9Oct12
Just out of interest, where it refers to "a preference to the ex-CC candidate", am I correct in assuming that CC stands for Charity Commission rather than Creative Commons?
Andreas
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Jon Davies jon.davies@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:
We are still discussing this and will publish the details as soon as possible.
On 4 October 2012 15:52, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
What is the timetable for the forthcoming "independent review"?
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Can we have a look before it gets to the final version so that when it goes to wmf and reviewer it has our suggestions for consideration
Joe On Oct 11, 2012 8:26 PM, "Andrew Turvey" andrewrturvey@googlemail.com wrote:
As with many other members I've been quite concerned with recent developments so I dialled into this public board meeting to hear for myself what was happening. I hope that showing an interest can be some help to the board in pulling together and repairing the damage.
I was actually quite impressed with what I heard. Although trustees seem to be feeling bruised by it all, it was good to see the board starting to pull together and start focussing on what can be done in the future. The board seemed very well advised both from their lawyers Stone King and from Jon who are both playing a very positive role in all this. I would definitely recommend anyone else who is interested and available to dial in as well and hear for themselves.
Regarding the terms of reference of the review, the minutes mention that they have been approved by WMUK. I got the impression that they still need to be signed off by the WMF and presumably the reviewer themselves may also have tweaks they want to make. When this is all done, would the board be prepared to publish the Terms of Reference so the community can see what's happening, see the timetable and can put their tu-p-orth in as they feel inclined?
Given that the final report is going to be published (according to the blog post [1] that announced the review) and the report will clearly include a description of the terms of reference, I can't see to be any reason on the surface not to do this at this stage.
Many thanks,
[1] http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2012/09/joint-statement-from-wikimedia-foundati...
Andrew
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Jon Davies jon.davies@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:
Charity Commission indeed.
On 10 October 2012 14:45, Andreas Kolbe jayen466@gmail.com wrote:
Minutes have been posted of a 9Oct12 meeting discussing the appointment of the independent reviewer:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes_9Oct12
Just out of interest, where it refers to "a preference to the ex-CC candidate", am I correct in assuming that CC stands for Charity Commission rather than Creative Commons?
Andreas
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Jon Davies jon.davies@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:
We are still discussing this and will publish the details as soon as possible.
On 4 October 2012 15:52, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.ukwrote:
What is the timetable for the forthcoming "independent review"?
-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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-- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies
Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990.
Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk
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I got the impression it had been negotiated in conjunction with the WMF and the reviewer candidates so I think it's too late for that - but the board/Jon can confirm.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Joe Filceolaire filceolaire@gmail.comwrote:
Can we have a look before it gets to the final version so that when it goes to wmf and reviewer it has our suggestions for consideration
Joe On Oct 11, 2012 8:26 PM, "Andrew Turvey" andrewrturvey@googlemail.com wrote:
As with many other members I've been quite concerned with recent developments so I dialled into this public board meeting to hear for myself what was happening. I hope that showing an interest can be some help to the board in pulling together and repairing the damage.
I was actually quite impressed with what I heard. Although trustees seem to be feeling bruised by it all, it was good to see the board starting to pull together and start focussing on what can be done in the future. The board seemed very well advised both from their lawyers Stone King and from Jon who are both playing a very positive role in all this. I would definitely recommend anyone else who is interested and available to dial in as well and hear for themselves.
Regarding the terms of reference of the review, the minutes mention that they have been approved by WMUK. I got the impression that they still need to be signed off by the WMF and presumably the reviewer themselves may also have tweaks they want to make. When this is all done, would the board be prepared to publish the Terms of Reference so the community can see what's happening, see the timetable and can put their tu-p-orth in as they feel inclined?
Given that the final report is going to be published (according to the blog post [1] that announced the review) and the report will clearly include a description of the terms of reference, I can't see to be any reason on the surface not to do this at this stage.
Many thanks,
[1] http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2012/09/joint-statement-from-wikimedia-foundati...
Andrew
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Jon Davies jon.davies@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:
Charity Commission indeed.
On 10 October 2012 14:45, Andreas Kolbe jayen466@gmail.com wrote:
Minutes have been posted of a 9Oct12 meeting discussing the appointment of the independent reviewer:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes_9Oct12
Just out of interest, where it refers to "a preference to the ex-CC candidate", am I correct in assuming that CC stands for Charity Commission rather than Creative Commons?
Andreas
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Jon Davies <jon.davies@wikimedia.org.uk
wrote:
We are still discussing this and will publish the details as soon as possible.
On 4 October 2012 15:52, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.ukwrote:
What is the timetable for the forthcoming "independent review"?
-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990.
Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk
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Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990.
Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk
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