Is the plan to transfer them from YouTube via Video2Commons? In the past, I've found that this tool often fails. It really is a shame that no progress has been made on allowing normal video file types.
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On 24 October 2017 at 10:50, Michael Maggs michael@maggs.name wrote:
Change at You Tube would be best actually, but I'd understood from your message that for whatever reason S4C have not managed to change the publicly visible You Tube licences.
Shall we discuss in more detail off list?
Michael
On 24 Oct 2017, at 10:39, Robin Owain info@cymruwales.com wrote:
Thanks Michael!
You recommend OTRS rather than change at You Tube? OK, I'll take your lead on this and email you asap.
Many thanks
Robin
On 24 October 2017 at 10:29 Michael Maggs michael@maggs.name wrote:
Yes I can help.
To ensure the videos aren't challenged on Commons we'll need formal confirmation from an authorised person at S4C to be sent to OTRS. If you could privately let me know details of the person who could provide the necessary confirmation I can draft a suitable email for them to send to OTRS. The uploaded files can then be tagged appropriately so that users don't start deleting them based on what they can see on YouTube.
Michael
On 24 Oct 2017, at 10:10, Robin Owain info@cymruwales.com wrote:
S4C have agreed to change their 'Usual You Tube licence' of videos on their 2017 Royal Welsh Show account (and previous years) to CCBYSA. This means we can upload around 2,000 videos to Commons. It also means that S4C, for the first time, have discussed and understood legality and benefits of open licencing, and could produce footage of other subjects.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOrGrdJcnGuiCXMc3tCUvnA/videos
I gave them two options:
RTS (the simple option)
Change licence on You Tube to CC (recommended as it's visible on You
Tube).
They say that they have changed the licence (using batch - manual historical), but that it's not visible on any of the videos on You Tube, and the videos don't appear in a Google CC search.
Any help please?
PS In due course we will need to transfer them over to Commons with a pilot patch of 10. Each video will need a 5 second subtitle saying "S4C - Sianel Pedwar Cymru". A project will then take place in order to subtitle the main points in English eg names of species, breeds, farm location. Clips from each video could also be taken, and placed in that breed's Category on Commons, Wikidata etc.
But first - the licence!
Robin Owain
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