Re "why blacklist the Daily Mail not even worse sources?
The Daily Mail is a very long way from being the first source deprecated by the Wikipedia community, it isn't even in the most deprecated category of sources, that would be ones that go into the spamfilter and are automatically rejected.
If someone can point to a worse site currently in use as a source on Wikipedia we can comment on that and even start a discussion on them at the reliable sources noticeboard. But if someone comes to the discussion in the misconception that the Daily Mail is the first source we have deprecated, the best response is to explain that Wikipedians have been discussing the reliability of sources for many years. This may be the first such decision to get public interest, it is a very long way from being the first such decision. So to answer a question with a question, can you name a source which is less reliable than the Daily Mail but isn't deprecated on Wikipedia?
For the record I wish we could go into a little more nuance re the Daily Mail, such as at what points in history could they be treated as reliable. I've heard that their sports coverage is reliable, except perhaps where it blurs into coverage of sports personalities.
On 15 February 2017 at 03:28, - - john@bodkinprints.co.uk wrote:
On 09 February 2017 at 15:57 Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Which leaves the question of "why blacklist the Daily Mail not even worse sources?" If anyone can suggest an answer to that which would keep a journo happy I'd be interested to hear it .... ;)
One reason that I didn't see mentioned in the rfc is that, unlike say the Guardian, the Mail seems to reuse its story urls after only 2 years or so. Eg: I followed a ref link for a story on a record auction price for a painting to find a recent story about a footie transfer. That may be good enough for many linking websites but doesn't work for us.
Btw i did the WMUK media training & am used to speaking to the press on Wiki-in-residence matters, & would be happy to be on a panel or whatever,
John
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