On 14 November 2012 12:58, Andreas Kolbe jayen466@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com wrote:
The actual solutions are (1) to grow the community (and I mean growing it with responsible, well-trained editors). I personally have put time and effort into this in the past, as well as editing many hours a day. And (2) to make it easier for the community to do useful work.
Now the WMF is well resourced, we should really be discussing these matters. The traditional spiralling blame game set off by "case studies" is not the best way, IMX.
What do you suggest the WMF should or could do? In my experience, they are wary of getting involved in anything that might imply they are exercising control over content, as that could conceivably jeopardise their Section 230 safe harbour protection, and leave them with liability for anonymous people's edits.
Let's get back down to earth. "Cumbersome" in the title of the thread implies we are dealing with people who are not the type to read instructions patiently, and follow them. These people may be "normal" by many standards.
There is a big underlying debate here about "barriers to entry" for WP editing. We need the help of more editors on WP - but not just at any price. The content for me of Wikimania this year was that the WMF has funded various initiatives on "barriers". There is plenty more to do.
Charles