Indeed, and congratulations to Lucy and the team on securing this progress with Tullie House. I do think it is important to acknowledge progress as much as it is to keep pushing for better practice.
With this in mind, are we content that we are doing everything we can as a community to make it easier for museums to do the right thing than to default to a risk-averse legacy practice?
All best,
Nick Poole
From: Wikimediauk-l [mailto:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Sara Thomas Sent: 13 September 2017 19:06 To: UK Wikimedia mailing list Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Copyfraud by the British Museum
Great to see the movement on this! My experience in the museums sector during my MGS residency in 2015-2016 taught me that these kinds of moves are much more significant that we sometimes realise in terms of organisational culture, and I would wholeheartedly support the notion that this is the most that could be asked of them at this point.
Sara Thomas
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________________________________ From: Wikimediauk-l <wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of Lucy Crompton-Reid <lucy.crompton-reid@wikimedia.org.ukmailto:lucy.crompton-reid@wikimedia.org.uk> Sent: 13 September 2017 16:05 To: UK Wikimedia mailing list Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Copyfraud by the British Museum
Dear all
I've heard back from Tullie House Museum and they are changing the no photography signs on the exhibition to remove the word copyright. However my understanding is that they do have a restriction on photography for the items loaned by the British Museum. My feeling is that this is the most we can ask Tullie House at this point, but that it highlights the need for continued advocacy about copyright and licensing issues to the cultural sector generally, and to the BM more specifically.
Best Lucy
On 31 August 2017 at 10:28, Lucy Crompton-Reid <lucy.crompton-reid@wikimedia.org.ukmailto:lucy.crompton-reid@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: Hi Fae
You may not have seen my message to this list a few weeks ago that I had been in touch with the Director at Tullie House Museum, who thinks the copyright notice may be a mistake on their part - however he needed to check with the curator responsible who was on holiday at the time. I suspect the curator will be back now so this is a timely reminder to chase this up, which I will do!
Cheers Lucy
On 30 August 2017 at 19:50, Fæ <faewik@gmail.commailto:faewik@gmail.com> wrote: Ping :-)
It's been over a month, does anyone know if the Tullie House Museum has removed the misleading copyright notices?
If there has been no contact yet, I'd be happy to send off a letter as a long term Wikimedia Commons volunteer to the BM and the THM for an official response that I can add to the record on Commons.
Thanks, Fae
On 28 July 2017 at 13:34, Lucy Crompton-Reid <lucy.crompton-reid@wikimedia.org.ukmailto:lucy.crompton-reid@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
Hi Fae, Andy, and all
I agree that trying to apply copyright to a 2000 year old item is pretty outrageous, although I'm going to suppose that it stems from ignorance rather than anything else. We have some contacts at the BM although I'm not sure about Tullie House Museum, however I'm happy to contact both institutions, in the first instance, to give them the opportunity to correct this. I'll let you know how I get on.
Cheers Lucy
On 28 July 2017 at 13:24, Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.ukmailto:andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
On 28 July 2017 at 13:11, Richard Nevell <richard.nevell@wikimedia.org.ukmailto:richard.nevell@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
Attempting to embarrass the British Museum is misguided and certainly would not build bridges for future collaboration.
Perhaps, but as Fae indicates, it might also cause some movement.
What's your - WMUK's, I mean - alternative proposed action?
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