AGK wrote:
Too pessimistic an attitude. We should be looking at how to improve as an organisation, and identifying areas that we need to work on. I care not who implements the ideas of the wider UK wikimedia community; only that things go uphill from here.
Likewise - indeed there will be an opportunity to decide who leads the organisation when the elections take place!
However the current situation helps things not a bit.
Martin
2008/9/8 Martin Peeks martinp23@googlemail.com
Ross Gardler wrote:
Can everyone please be civil and constructive. If that is not possible then the is *zero* chance of building the kind of community I (and I assume many others) would like to be a part of.
I'm amazed that even my plea for civility has degenerated into an
argument.
Indeed, it's a very sorry state of affairs indeed, and I have to say that I'm quite disappointed that Tom D., who I had hoped would be able to turn the organisation around from the bickering, disorganised, disrespectful mess it *appeared* (key word) to me before. Alas he seems to be continuing in the vein of old.
Unless things change quickly with the way this organisation is publicly managed, I don't think it can nor should claim to represent the interests of UK Wikimedians. Indeed, it's losing credibility as a serious org. very quickly, in my eyes at the very least.
In short, "Drop the stick and step away from the dead horse" (WP:FLOG).
Now, I have some questions about this new organisation. Not much information seems to have been forthcoming thus far on the ML (or has been hidden in bickering!), so first I'd ask that the interim board provide (say) weekly reports to us on progress, whether or not there is anything to report, during this initial phase of high momentum. Questions:
- Where are we now?
- Who is involved at the moment and in what capacity?
- What are their plans for the chapter, both short-term and long-term?
Apologies if these have been answered already, but as I say, things have been rather drowned out thus far..
Martin.
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