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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimediauk-l Digest, Vol 97, Issue 15
by Edward Saperia 20 Aug '13

20 Aug '13

Some good suggestions, feel free to open discussion here: http://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Brainstorming On 20 August 2013 11:16, <wikimediauk-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Send Wikimediauk-l mailing list submissions to > wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikimediauk-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikimediauk-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wikimediauk-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Wikimania 2014: On journalism (brian.mcneil(a)wikinewsie.org) > 2. Re: Wikimania 2014: On journalism (Toni Sant) > 3. Re: Wikimania 2014: On journalism (Jonathan Cardy) > 4. Wikimedia UK monthly report for July - call for content > (Stevie Benton) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 02:22:07 -0400 > From: brian.mcneil(a)wikinewsie.org > To: "wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org" > <wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Cc: UK Wikimedia mailing <wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014: On journalism > Message-ID: <20130820022207.10354rhl1uv7kbnz(a)webmail.wikinewsie.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; > format="flowed" > > We're looking a year ahead, so we should have plenty of time to sort > things out. But, the UK has some particularly-talented Wikinewsies > (I'm looking at Iain Macdonald, Tom Morris and Paul Williams in > particular). > > It would be short-sighted, in the extreme, not to ask the UK-resident > Wikinewsies to get involved. Given the direction I've seen Paul > heading off in (to Wikinews' great loss) I suspect he would make a > great 'Head of Broadcasting' for next year's Wikimania; and, with > Wikimedia UK's support, could help make sure Wikimania 2014 is the > 'most-online' annual conference to-date. [All sessions webcast live, > all recordings thereof online faster than the BBC does with iPlayer.] > > The major snag for me, a Wikinewsie in Edinburgh, is it looks-like > Wikimania 2014 clashes with the Edinburgh Festival and Fringe. (I > already have interest from a local community Radio station, which > might lead to free use of high-end gear, and a few other things > in-the-works). > > But, anyone who is planning to travel to the UK for Wikimania should > bear that in-mind! > > If you want to come up to The Athens of The North, post-conference, > start looking at those accommodation bookings right now. Otherwise, > you'll be camping somewhere in the vicinity of Arthur's Seat. > > Regardless, and no-matter how hard Wikimedia UK tries to promote their > London Wikimania, I can promise you "us lot up in Scotland" will keep > knocking you off the front page when it comes to headlines in the > press. Does anyone else have some 'creative ideas' about Wikimania > 2014 having a 'token presence' in Edinburgh? (The Fringe venue I want > to 'hijack' is close-enough to the Edinburgh Uni CS facilities I was > hacking - 25 years ago - that, we could run an armoured fibre straight > into JANET). > > It's simply too-good an opportunity to miss. And, where I strongly > agree with the broad-criticisms Jimmy made of mainstream media in his > HK keynote, I know that "the news division of the WMF" (i.e. Wikinews) > could wipe the floor with the Mainstream on the independence debate. > > > Brian. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 10:16:06 +0100 > From: Toni Sant <toni.sant(a)wikimedia.org.uk> > To: UK Wikimedia mailing list <wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014: On journalism > Message-ID: > <CAKYVc0m5y=zVFy2j43vu_N7Uwq7= > 6iJZ9Dfrx1h24KK0yvUs1g(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Brian - > > Is the fact that Wikimedia UK is currently supporting a Wikimedian in > Residence at the National Library of Scotland of any relevance to > developing your idea? > See > > http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2013/08/a-month-as-wikimedian-in-residence-at-… > > More than this, I'd be very interesting in supporting you and/or any other > volunteers in Scotland (or anywhere in the UK for that matter) to explore > ways to bring journalism students at all levels to Wikinews. I'd be more > than happy to strike up a conversation about this on this mailing list, or > any other way that's appropriate -- there's even room for a possible > roundtable discussion about this at the upcoming EduWiki conference. Just > let me know. > > Incidentally, this idea I'm proposing is greatly inspired by the wonderful > work that Dr. Chad Tew, who is an associate professor of journalism at the > University of Southern Indiana. See http://en-wp.com /wiki/User:Crtew -- > it > would be really great if something like this was developed in Scotland > and/or anywhere else in the UK > > Kind regards, > > Toni > > > --- > Dr Toni Sant - Education Organiser, Wikimedia UK > toni.sant(a)wikimedia.org.uk +44 (0)7885 980 536 > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered > Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. > United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who > operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). > > *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control > over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* > > > On 20 August 2013 07:22, <brian.mcneil(a)wikinewsie.org> wrote: > > > We're looking a year ahead, so we should have plenty of time to sort > > things out. But, the UK has some particularly-talented Wikinewsies (I'm > > looking at Iain Macdonald, Tom Morris and Paul Williams in particular). > > > > It would be short-sighted, in the extreme, not to ask the UK-resident > > Wikinewsies to get involved. Given the direction I've seen Paul heading > off > > in (to Wikinews' great loss) I suspect he would make a great 'Head of > > Broadcasting' for next year's Wikimania; and, with Wikimedia UK's > support, > > could help make sure Wikimania 2014 is the 'most-online' annual > conference > > to-date. [All sessions webcast live, all recordings thereof online faster > > than the BBC does with iPlayer.] > > > > The major snag for me, a Wikinewsie in Edinburgh, is it looks-like > > Wikimania 2014 clashes with the Edinburgh Festival and Fringe. (I already > > have interest from a local community Radio station, which might lead to > > free use of high-end gear, and a few other things in-the-works). > > > > But, anyone who is planning to travel to the UK for Wikimania should bear > > that in-mind! > > > > If you want to come up to The Athens of The North, post-conference, start > > looking at those accommodation bookings right now. Otherwise, you'll be > > camping somewhere in the vicinity of Arthur's Seat. > > > > Regardless, and no-matter how hard Wikimedia UK tries to promote their > > London Wikimania, I can promise you "us lot up in Scotland" will keep > > knocking you off the front page when it comes to headlines in the press. > > Does anyone else have some 'creative ideas' about Wikimania 2014 having a > > 'token presence' in Edinburgh? (The Fringe venue I want to 'hijack' is > > close-enough to the Edinburgh Uni CS facilities I was hacking - 25 years > > ago - that, we could run an armoured fibre straight into JANET). > > > > It's simply too-good an opportunity to miss. And, where I strongly agree > > with the broad-criticisms Jimmy made of mainstream media in his HK > keynote, > > I know that "the news division of the WMF" (i.e. Wikinews) could wipe the > > floor with the Mainstream on the independence debate. > > > > > > Brian. > > > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > > Wikimedia UK mailing list > > wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org > > http://mail.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l< > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l> > > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > > >

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Wikimedia UK monthly report for July - call for content
by Stevie Benton 20 Aug '13

20 Aug '13

Hello everyone, The time to publish Wikimedia UK's monthly report for July is approaching quickly. If you have any useful and relevant content please do add it to the report, which can be found at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reports/2013/July Thanks and regards, Stevie -- Stevie Benton Communications Organiser Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 @StevieBenton Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*

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Virtual Learning Environment workshop day
by Stevie Benton 16 Aug '13

16 Aug '13

Hello everyone, As you probably know Wikimedia UK has been developing a Virtual Learning Environment (VLE) to teach people about Wikipedia. Progress is going well and we'd like to invite you to a workshop day on Saturday 9 November at the Wikimedia UK offices in London. The workshop will highlight the features of the VLE, look at how we can make good use of the tool, seek community involvement in the content, maintenance and localisation of the tool. Lunch will be provided on the day and I'm hoping very much to see you there. Please do feel free to drop me a line with any questions. If you'd like to attend please do let me know so I can keep track of numbers. Thanks and regards, Stevie Stevie Benton Communications Organiser Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 @StevieBenton Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*

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Wikipedia Takes Chester
by HJ Mitchell 15 Aug '13

15 Aug '13

Hi folks, As part of Wiki Loves Monuments, I'm organising a one-day photography contest in Chester on 7 September. The aim is fairly simple - to get good-quality photographs of some of Chester's most important listed buildings. Contestants will be given a target list and will have most of the day to take photographs before returning to the venue to start uploading. Chester is an incredibly beautiful city with some truly unique buildings, so nobody should be short of something to photograph! The aim is for the event to be a fun day out for experienced Wikipedians and newbies alike, so of course I need people to come and take some photos! I also need some experienced editors to come and help the less experienced through the upload process and generally be on-hand just in case. For more information, including a link to the (very simple) registration form, please see http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Takes_Chester. Please feel free to share with anyone you think might be interested. If you're willing to assist others with uploading, please also email me off-list. Thanks, Harry Mitchell http://enwp.org/User:HJ Phone: 024 7698 0977 Skype: harry_j_mitchell

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TRAIN THE TRAINERS REVIEW
by Jon Davies 15 Aug '13

15 Aug '13

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Train_the_Trainers_consultation All comments welcomed. Jon -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk

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Tony Benn, and Wiki-literature
by brian.mcneil＠wikinewsie.org 15 Aug '13

15 Aug '13

I have around an hour of audio from one of Tony Benn's appearances up here at the Fringe. Sadly, Real Work is leaving me with zero time to transcribe that into anything I can work from. I won't, publicly, share the link to that; but, if anyone is interested in helping out, ping me. I have asked if the trailer for the film - an "audio-biographical" as they label it - can be released under a free license, which (with some hilarious confusion over Wikinews versus WikiLeaks) was in-general agreed to. I also have an open invite to get in touch with Tony's assistant Ruth, should I be visiting London, to go one step further than Andy's current suggestion of recording an audio intro of Wikipedia bio article subjects, and capture a short video clip of Tony introducing himself. Any help making that happen would be greatly appreciated. Since - at my request Tony spoke to his son Hilary, and got the photo currently adorning his Wikipedia bio gifted from Hilary, there is also an opportunity to request more images, from earlier in his political life, be donated to Commons. Tangentially related, I've run out of some of the brochures I had. I've been leaving them lying around Fringe venues, and would like to keep doing so. But, obviously, with a Wikinews leaflet in-addition to all the Commons and Wikipedia stuff. Someone in the office should have my mobile number, please reach out to me as I'm ridiculously busy with work. Brian McNeil -- Wikinewsie.org "Facts don't cease to be facts, but news ceases to be news."

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Wikimedia UK Annual Accounts
by Richard Symonds 14 Aug '13

14 Aug '13

Good morning all! Members of Wikimedia UK will already have received a copy of our annual accounts, but for those of you who aren't members, you'll find a copy of our audited annual accounts at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMUK_Annual_Report_2012-13_(Signatures_Re… . They will be uploaded to Companies House and the Charity Commission over the coming weeks. Please send any questions to myself, or leave them on the talk page for the file. All the best, Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*

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Supporting the UK's first Wiki Loves Monuments competition
by Michael Maggs 11 Aug '13

11 Aug '13

Hi all, For those who haven't been following the progress of the WLM competition to date, we have a small group of dedicated volunteers and staff who are working hard to ensure that the UK's first contribution to the world's largest photographic competition goes without a hitch. The organizational site is at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013_in_the_… We also have a nice external competition website to attract competitors (many of whom will not be Wiki savvy, and will be new contributors & editors) at http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org.uk/ We are expecting this competition to be quite a big deal, and the staff at WMUK have been busy making arrangement for publicity as well as helping out with the lists. We hope to get press notices and image spreads in the Metro, which publishes in Bath, Birmingham, Brighton, Bristol, Cardiff, Derby, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Leeds, Leicester, Liverpool, London, Manchester, Nottingham, Newcastle and Sheffield, as well as in The Times (thanks Stevie). The high-profile nature of the competition has been strengthened by the agreement of Steve Cole ABIPP, Head of Photography at English Heritage, to join the national judging panel (jury) (thanks Richard N.) The WLM volunteers will do everything they can to make sure the English, Scottish, Welsh and Northern Ireland lists are in a good state on the English Wikipedia before the start of the national and international competitions - September 1st is just three weeks away now. We are all very aware that the deadline is looming, and that a quite a lot of work still remains to be done. Everyone is working as fast as they can and due to the rapidly approaching deadline it appears that unfortunately a few errors have slipped through. Really, we need more people to help out. There is a particular need for editors who are experienced with bots or scripts to pitch in now, not only to help fix some of the errors, but also to help put up the remainder of the listed building data using the standard WLM templates. If you can help in any way, please make yourself known to the WLM team, either via my talk page, or by adding your name to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013_in_the_…. If you can actively help now, you should also, please, sign up to the Wiki Loves Monuments UK mailing list (link below), where you can obtain detailed information. You can see the current status of the data uploads by going to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013_in_the_…. You can see there, for example, that we still need someone to deal with the uploading of almost all of the Scottish data. We can provide structured lists of data for those who can help with this. If you can't help with bot work, but are able to contribute by tidying up or correcting the WP lists for your area, that would still be very much appreciated. You can get to the lists by going via one of the following Wikipedia links: Listed buildings in England Listed buildings in Scotland Listed buildings in Wales Listed buildings in Northern Ireland The best place to report systematic list errors, to ensure that the WLM volunteers see them, is not on this email thread, but rather at the main WLM-UK help desk, which you can find at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013_in_the_… Given the fact that the competition will be starting in just three weeks time (whether the UK team is are ready or not!), I would ask that editors do not make any radical changes to the Wikipedia lists at this stage which could inadvertently destroy the competition. In particular, please do not make mass reverts, unless you are able to put everything back correctly, and please do not remove or change the WLM template structure. This is essential for the automated upload tool to work properly, and also for the WLM international team to ensure that the data gets correctly harvested and copied into the worldwide Wiki Monuments Database. After the competition has finished, at the end of September, would be a good time for the community to discuss - if desired - any possible template improvements to the way in which the UK data is standardized and displayed. Thanks for bearing with us and for helping out if you can. Michael WLM-UK mailing list: http://lists.wikimedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/wlm2013-l Wiki Loves Monuments UK mailing list

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Lists of UK listed buildings: harmful WLM edits
by Andy Mabbett 10 Aug '13

10 Aug '13

I'm concerned that good-faith edits (hundreds of them) by one user, relating to WikiLovesMonumnts in the UK, have i) used date templates where they're not appropriate and ii) lost lots of existing wikilinks, including disambiguation, which other editors are now being asked to replace. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:UK_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#… for examples and discussion. We may need a mass revert (after which the edits can be reinstated in better shape); or a bot to do cleanup. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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EduWiki Conference 2013 - Call for Proposals
by Toni Sant 07 Aug '13

07 Aug '13

*Please circulate widely... *____________________ *============================================== EduWiki Conference 2013 - Call for proposals ==============================================* *Wikimedia UK's second annual EduWiki conference will take place in Cardiff on 1 and 2 November 2013. * A recent white paper from TurnItIn, the online plagiarism-prevention service used widely across higher education in the UK, claims that "Wikipedia has an outsized presence as a content source for student writing". [1] This study is based on an analysis of over 112 million content matches from 28 million student papers submitted to TurnItIn between July 2011 and June 2012. 11% of these content matches are from Wikipedia. However, the same report is quick to explain that Wikipedia has academic merit in terms of educational value. TurnItIn's recommendation is to "educate students that the true value of Wikipedia is to provide a curated summary on a topic, and that they should follow the sources and citations at the bottom of Wikipedia entries to verify the accuracy of the information and to uncover primary source material" [2]. Wikmedia UK is now inviting proposals for papers, presentation, provocations and/or posters, especially ones addressing the Wikipedia problem highlighted by the TurnItIn white paper. Proposal for panels and roundtable discussions from groups of three or four participants are also welcome. Indicative topics include, but are not limited to: * Wikipedia belongs in Education, including Higher Education * Wikipedia's academic merit and educational value * Examples of using Wikipedia in the high school, college or university classroom * Ways to deter university students from plagiarizing Wikipedia * Going beyond Wikipedia by engaging with any of the other major Wikimedia projects: Wikibooks, Wikispecies, Wikiquote, Wikinews, Wikisource, Wikiversity, Wikidata, and Wikimedia Commons, among others. *Email your proposal (including an abstract of up to 200 words) to education(a)wikimedia.org.uk by Monday 26 August 2013. All proposals should also include a brief bio (around 50 words). Queries about the conference or any other aspect of Wikimedia UK's Education activities can be sent directly to WMUK's Education Organiser toni.sant(a)wikimedia.org.uk* *Notes*: [1] TurnItIn White Paper. 'The Sources in Student Writing - Higher Education', p.10 [2] ibid. p.11 --- Dr Toni Sant - Education Organiser, Wikimedia UK toni.sant(a)wikimedia.org.uk +44 (0)7885 980 536 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*

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