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Video recording at Wikimania for the BBC's Digital Revolution series
by Tom Holden 13 Aug '09

13 Aug '09

Hi, The BBC have been in contact with us at Wikimedia UK about the possibility of them getting access to some Wikimania footage. I quote: "We are expecting to film with Jimmy Wales later in the year, but we were really hoping to film at Wikimania. Unfortunately, due to schedules, we simply can't get a crew to the event. And so, it occurred to us that, rather than lose this quintessentially Wikipedian moment, we could - in the spirit of our shared open and collaborative goals - ask some of the attending Wikipedians to shoot some footage for us, for release on an open platform (Kultura) to allow all parties to use the footage under creative commons." They ask interested parties to get in contact either via their web form here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/digitalrevolution/contactus.shtml or via me/other WMUK board members. (E-mail me and I'll forward it on to them, or alternatively, if you're in the UK email me and I can give you the organiser's phone number.) Thanks, Tom

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Fwd: Pausing revision of the chapters agreement
by Andrew Turvey 12 Aug '09

12 Aug '09

We previously mentioned that the Wikimedia Foundation has started a discussion about concluding a new Chapter Agreement with Wikimedia UK and the other chapters. Unfortunately, the draft agreement that was put forward has generated significant disagreements between the Foundation and chapters and it hasn't been easy to get a consensus. The Foundation has therefore decided to put this process on hold until the next chapters meeting in spring next year. Full email from the Foundation is copied below for your information. We will, as always, keep supporters informed as to any further developments. Regards, Andrew Turvey Secretary Wikimedia UK Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited. Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United Kingdom. ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Erik Moeller" <erik(a)wikimedia.org> To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed subscription)" <internal-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Wednesday, 12 August, 2009 03:20:10 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: [Internal-l] Pausing revision of the chapters agreement I apologize for the delay in composing this note. As you know, earlier this year we shared with you a first draft of a revised chapters agreement. This was designed to bring greater clarity to the chapters / WMF relationship. There are clearly some points in this draft about which there is significant disagreement. While we would have ideally liked to develop consensus quickly, after some internal discussion, we've concluded that this is clearly not going to happen. We don't want disagreements about legal language to distract us from shared objectives, so we're suggesting that we park the issue for now. WMF and the chapters are working together constructively in many areas and we want to focus our energy on growing and deepening those relationships. With regard to newly approved chapters, we will execute the existing agreement: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Agreement_between_chapters_and_Wikimedi… There are some inconsistencies in current agreements with some chapters which we may seek to resolve directly with those chapters. And of course we'll continue to develop the fundraising agreement for the fundraiser and beyond. As you know, the strategic planning process is kicking into full gear, and we want chapters to be involved in this process to the greatest extent possible. The process may also inform how we want to structure the WMF / chapters relationship. Finally, we simply don't have the organizational bandwidth to engage in a deep, prolonged discussion about every element of the agreement structure at this point, and we don't want to do so at the expense of critical mission activities. I suggest that we reopen this discussion at the next WMF / chapters meeting at the earliest. I know there are some specific issues that are of concern to some chapters, such as online shops, and I hope that we'll be able to give more attention to these issues soon, and independently of this process. Erik -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate _______________________________________________ Internal-l mailing list Internal-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-l --

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Speakers list on Meta
by Michael Peel 12 Aug '09

12 Aug '09

Hi all, You may wish to add yourselves to the following page, if you're happy to do presentations about Wikimedia: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Public_speakers#United_Kingdom (That's in addition to the WMUK page at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/ Speakers , to which I've added a see also link on that page.) Mike

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Archive pictures of North East Midlands, England
by Andrew Turvey 10 Aug '09

10 Aug '09

I've recently come across the following website that publishes a large number of old photographs held in local council archives in Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire: http://tinyurl.com/nydpcj Many of the pictures are still in-copyright and have been released for private use only. However, many are pre-1923 and hence copyright expired, such as: http://tinyurl.com/npay5t Would it be copyright-compliant for someone, particularly someone based in the US, to upload these photos to Commons based on the principles of PD-ART? Andrew

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DFEY-NW Meeting - August 15th
by Tim Dobson 09 Aug '09

09 Aug '09

Details for the next DFEY-NW are enclosed... Please forward this to anybody or any lists you think might be interested. =================== DFEY-NW (Digital Freedom in Education & Youth - North West) is a group aiming to provide a social space for young people interested in technology, issues of freedom and technology in relation to education. www.dfey.org When Saturday August 15th 2009 12:00pm -> ~3:30pm Meet Because the venue is not amazingly easy to find, we'll meet at Piccadilly station and we'll walk over there (it's about 5minutes on foot). Meet on the seats between platforms 1 and 2 in the main concourse. Look for people with laptops and perhaps some funky DFEY signs. :P Where Substance.coop offices, Northern Quarter (the guys who helped us get to the "2morro festival") Attending? if you are thinking of attending please add your name to the wiki page http://dfey.org/wiki/Manchester,_August_2009#Time or feel free to email us on team(a)nw.dfey.org to let us know you are coming... Young Rewired State Many people from DFEY will be attending Young Rewired State - an event about building stuff using government data. It's being held at Google HQ in London on the 22nd and 23rd August 2009 and there will some assistance with travel and accommodation for those wishing to attend! Please add your name to the DFEY wiki page: http://dfey.org/wiki/London,_August_2009 and/or email team(a)dfey.org To find out more about the event visit: http://rewiredstate.org/young From the website: "How about we give you Google's offices in the heart of London, technology and a tonne of the country's best programmers and hackers to help and teach you along the way? We'll also give you food and drink to keep you going. If so, and you're aged between 15 and 18, we'd love you to come to our free weekend to see what you can come up with. We think we're all in for a big surprise." --- In case you need it, here's some contact information: Tim's mobile: 07922334403 Email: team(a)nw.dfey.org ================= DFEY-NW Community: Web: http://www.dfey.org Mailing list: http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dfey-nw-discuss IRC: #dfey on irc.freenode.net Identi.ca & Twitter: #dfey & #dfeynw Forum: http://www.nw.dfey.org/wiki/Forum Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=24304402298 -- www.tdobson.net ---- If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw

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Last meeting
by Andrew Turvey 09 Aug '09

09 Aug '09

Please find copied below the minutes of the last board meeting that we had last Wednesday 5th August. The main business was our continuing work on our charity commission application. The wording of our application has now been substantially finished. However, an investigation has revealed that the Schools Project will classify us as a "childrens charity" - a charity whose people work with children more than once a month. This will expand our child protection duties, including the requirement for written policies, complaints procedures and criminal checks on all trustees. We have decided to delay the application until these procedures are in place. Other items discussed included: - We have received the $8,150 grant from the Foundation to kick start our initiatives. - We're going to investigate moving the wiki from http://uk.wikimedia.org to http://www.wikimedia.org.uk , so as to avoid any conflict with Wikimedia Ukraine - the Ukrainian Wikipedia is at http://uk.wikipedia.org. - The August newsletter has been penciled in for Friday 14th. Any queries, comments or corrections are welcome either in reply to this message or on the talk page of the wiki. Regards, -- Andrew Turvey Secretary Wikimedia UK Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited. Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK Board meeting Wednesday 5th August 2009, 8:30pm BST at #wikimedia-uk-board Present: Michael Peel (MP) (Chair); Andrew Turvey (AT) (minutes); Zeyi He (ZH); Tom Holden (TH); Joseph Seddon (JS); Paul Williams (PW) (part) Apologies: PW for late arrival; Steve Virgin (SV) Minutes of previous meetings The minutes of the meetings dated 21 July and 28 July were approved. It was agreed that the action for TD to contact the gazette to solicit a pro-bono lawyer would be dropped given the discussion on engaging a paid lawyer. The following actions were carried forward: 1. PW agreed to draft an email to the WMF formalising the agreement to use Wikimedia Foundation trademarks in members-only merchandising and to look into where we could produce merchandise. 2. MP agreed to draft templates for the six press scenarios identified at Media relations#Media response . 3. AT to send out the details of the February 2009 Wikipedia Loves Art prizes. 4. MP agreed to install a wordpress blog at http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/blog . 5. MP agreed to work with SV to do mini press releases, no more than one per month, advertising spikes in traffic per WP:POPULAR related to particular news events. 6. JS agreed to get a copy of the WMF's press release contact list in the UK. 7. MP agreed to add the HMRC letter appendices as attachments to section C of the Charity Commission application 8. PW will research into the requirement for CRB checks for Schools Project volunteers and their transferability in liason with JS. 9. PW will develop a proposal for buying a computer for the Schools Project with, potentially, peripherals such as a projector, screen, printer etc. Matters arising JS will draft an email for the Open Knowledge Foundation mailing list, to recruit new members. ACTION: JS With regard to setting up wikipedia.x.uk as a portal along the lines of http://wikipedia.de , it was agreed that the risks were unquantified. Rather than looking into it at the moment, it was agreed we would revisit in January 2010. AT agreed to take on the business cards printing. ACTION: AT Reports Secretary The Secretary's Report was noted. AT will reply to the charity as proposed. ACTION: AT It was agreed that we would try to move our wiki at http://uk.wikimedia.org to http://www.wikimedia.org.uk subject to technical feasibility re Single User Logins and hosting, with gb.wikimedia.org as a potential alternative. MP will investigate. ACTION: MP Treasurer The Treasurer's Report was noted, which includes the receipt of the Foundation's grant. TH has created subaccounts in the accounting software which ensures that the funds, which are designated for particular purposes, are not used for other expenses. Balances for each initiative will be reported in future Treasurers' Reports. Chair The Chair's Report was noted. MP agreed to follow up with Wikimedia Ukraine regarding the "uk." website conflict. Initiatives PW joined the meeting The Initiatives Report was noted. ZH agreed to follow up with each initiative leader on progress with the timeline milestone of "Establish a plan for each initiative including timetable, aim and outline costing", which is due by 31 August. Corporate relations SV had spoken to AT before the meeting: SB has been in touch wanting to progress the BBC work, having received his token of thanks. For the next fortnight, SV has focus on his work where he is facing possible redundancy. After then, he will return and pick up his actions. If anything arises that needs an immediate response he will refer it to AT or MP. Conferences The Conferences Report was noted. Charity Commission application Section C (public benefit) It was agreed that the chapter would, in principle, consider supporting non-Wikimedia Foundation free content work as appropriate. With that agreed, the text of section C was agreed. Section D (vulnerable people) JS has investigated the situation with Criminal Record Bureau checks for board members and found that all board members will need to be checked if the Schools Project goes ahead, as this makes us a "children's charity". We will also be obliged to comply with other procedures such as child protection policies and complaints procedures. These obligations also mean that it is more likely that our Charity application will be refused. PW left the meeting It was agreed that we would not delay the Schools Project but would apply for charitable status and establish our procedures in parralel. JS agreed to look into CRB checks - who to approach for them and how much they will cost. ACTION: JS AT agreed to investigate NCVO and other charity support groups for guidance on setting up procedures. ACTION: AT AT agreed to investigate getting paid legal advice on charitable status, using the Foundation's offer to fund. ACTION: AT JS agreed to start drafting some child protection policies. ACTION: JS Section E (Conflicts of interest) AT has drafted a conflicts of interest policy based on various guidance. The Board discussed where a conflict of loyalty may arise that would prejudice a decision on a transaction with the Wikimedia Foundation. It was agreed that being an administrator on a Wikimedia Foundation project normally wouldn't present a conflict, but being a former appointee to a Wikimedia Foundation committee would. It was felt that MedCom and ArbCom would also present conflicts and this should be considered when the forthcoming Fundraising Agreement is discussed. MP agreed to clarify his status on the Communications Committee. ACTION: MP The section will be discussed again at the next regular meeting to give members time to read it thoroughly. Newsletter It was agreed we would aim for the 14th August as a date for the next newsletter. Each initiative leader will be asked to write a section, plus a section on charity status update (AT) and Wikipedia Loves Art prizes (AT). Next meeting The next meeting, to focus on initiatives with a brief discussion of the charity commission application, was agreed for Tuesday 18th August, 8:30 - 10:30pm. The meeting closed at 23:00

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimania-l] Video recording at Wikimania for the BBC's Digital Revolution series
by WereSpielChequers 08 Aug '09

08 Aug '09

I'll be attending and might post some photos, but not video. however I would suggest this would be better posted on the Wikimania list. ~~~~ 2009/8/8 Gordon Joly <gordon.joly(a)pobox.com> > At 22:53 +0100 6/8/09, Tom Holden wrote: > >Hi, > > > >The BBC have been in contact with us at Wikimedia UK about the > >possibility of them getting access to some Wikimania footage. I quote: > > > >"We are expecting to film with Jimmy Wales later in the year, but we > >were really hoping to film at Wikimania. Unfortunately, due to > >schedules, we simply can't get a crew to the event. And so, it > >occurred to us that, rather than lose this quintessentially Wikipedian > >moment, we could - in the spirit of our shared open and collaborative > >goals - ask some of the attending Wikipedians to shoot some footage > >for us, for release on an open platform (Kultura) to allow all parties > >to use the footage under creative commons." > > > >They ask interested parties to get in contact either via their web > >form here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/digitalrevolution/contactus.shtml or > >via me/other WMUK board members. (E-mail me and I'll forward it on to > >them, or alternatively, if you're in the UK email me and I can give > >you the organiser's phone number.) > > > >Thanks, > > > >Tom > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > It would be nice if there was the offer of some costs (e.g. airfare > or conference registration), surely? > > Gordo > > -- > "Think Feynman"///////// > http://pobox.com/~gordo/ <http://pobox.com/%7Egordo/> > gordon.joly(a)pobox.com/// > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > -- WereSpielChequers

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimania-l] Video recording at Wikimania for the BBC's Digital Revolution series
by Bod Notbod 08 Aug '09

08 Aug '09

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Gordon Joly<gordon.joly(a)pobox.com> wrote: >>in the spirit of our shared open and collaborative >>goals - ask some of the attending Wikipedians to shoot some footage >>for us, for release on an open platform (Kultura) to allow all parties >>to use the footage under creative commons." I wonder if the BBC will release all their images to our CC license :o)

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London Wikimeet 24
by Gordon Joly 06 Aug '09

06 Aug '09

Yes, the 24th London Wikimeet! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/London_24 Date and time: Sunday 9th August - 13:00 onwards Location: Penderel's Oak pub, Holborn WC1 Looks like James F. will be there! But James W. will not be there this time. Gordo -- "Think Feynman"///////// http://pobox.com/~gordo/ gordon.joly(a)pobox.com///

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Last week's board meeting summary
by Andrew Turvey 04 Aug '09

04 Aug '09

Please find copied below the draft minutes of last week's board meeting: The meeting focused on the chapter's initiatives, in particular the three initiatives that we have committed to completing by the next AGM. At a previous meeting the Board agreed to adopt the Schools Project, London Loves Wikipedia and Workplace Learning Lunches as the three initiatives and to find a project leader and a core group of volunteers for each of these by the end of July. If you're interested in volunteering with any of these initiatives please contact the project leader or sign up on the initiative page. The Schools Project is being led by Paul Williams and six more volunteers have already put their names down to go into schools. PW updated the board on progress and full details are available at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Initiatives/Schools_project London Loves Wikipedia will be led by Mike Peel, with four other volunteers assisting. It may be made wider in scope than just London - discussions are ongoing. It was agreed that we would not actively recruiting museums at the moment whilst the National Portrait Gallery controversy is ongoing. Workplace Learning Lunches is being led by Steve Virgin. Four speakers have volunteered and we will try to recruit organisations as well as the BBC to push this programme. We have also put in a request to advertise this with a Geonotice on English Wikipedia and this is currently active. In addition to these three initiatives, we also have funding from the Foundation for "content access partnership" work. The original idea was that this would be along the lines of the Bundesarchiv deal with Wikimedia Germany. Although individual contacts are ongoing, we do not currently have a tangible plan for delivering this. Discussions are ongoing - please let us know if you can help us take this forward. We also have a good list of other ideas at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Initiatives/Proposals and http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Initiatives/Ideas - please let us know if you are interesting in taking any of these forward and let us know what we can do to help! Regards, -- Andrew Turvey Director Andrew Turvey Solutions Limited Registered Office: 23 Cartwright Way, Beeston, Nottingham NG9 1RL Registered in England, Registration Number 5596974 Information contained in this email may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. Unauthorised copying, forwarding or other use of any confidential information in this email may result in legal action. Wikimedia UK Board meeting Tuesday 21st July 2009, 8:45pm BST at #wikimedia-uk-board Present: Michael Peel (MP) (Chair); Andrew Turvey (AT) (minutes); Zeyi He (ZH); Tom Holden (TH); Joseph Seddon (JS); Paul Williams (PW) (part) Apologies: PW for early departure; Steve Virgin (SV) Note: The chair delayed the meeting from 8:30 to allow for ZH to arrive. Fundraising resolution Thomas Dalton (Tango42, TD) has approached the board with a suggestion regarding a fundraising drive. TD proposed the following text: " The board resolves to authorise Thomas Dalton to form a temporary working group to put together a proposal for a fundraising drive starting on 9th August 2009 and lasting 2 weeks " TD explained that he had offered to organise a fundraiser and wanted help. He wants to have an official working group to produce a proposal that the board would then consider. AT suggested that the board should instead appoint the working group members. Whilst this was being discussed, TD withdrew the motion. Initiatives (ZH) Role of Board, Chair, Secretary, Initiatives Director It was agreed that the initiatives director should coordinate the various initiatives, producing a progress report for each board meeting with, for instance, achievements, plans and obstacles. The board then has an overview role to monitor progress and discuss obstacles as needed. ACTION: ZH Geonotice It was agreed that the chapter would seek a geonotice on the watchlist of UK contributors to English Wikipedia to advertise the chapter and its initatives. Various options for wording was discussed and MP agreed to approach the page to request. ACTION: MP Done see wikipedia:Wikipedia:Geonotice#Wikimedia_UK_initiatives_notice . Wiki page It was agreed to set up a wiki page - Volunteer - where new supporters can be directed which would have all the ways that people can get involved. PW agreed to establish Schools project (PW) PW has been developing the initiative page . Eight people have volunteered so far, including six who are prepared to go into schools. PW will research into the reqirement for CRB checks and their transferability in liason with JS. ACTION: PW PW will develop a proposal for buying a computer with, potentially, peripherals such as a projector, screen, printer etc. ACTION: PW PW suggested his school could be a pilot. More schools could be recruited through the East of England Broadband Network and teacher trainer days (which could be accessed via Theresa knott). MP agreed to set up a mailing list for the schools project on wikimedia.org.uk. It was agreed to defer production of the task list and timeline until this was established. ACTION: MP Done London Loves Wikipedia (MP) MP confirmed that having asked the email list for volunteers, no-one came forward so he is still willing to lead this initiative. It was agreed the initiative needed a core group of 3-4 people to organise it. So far, four people have volunteered on the initiative page and it was agreed this was sufficient to organise the event. The board discussed whether it should be wider in geographical scope - say Britain Loves Wikipedia. MP agreed to approach the Foundation to request permission to use their copyright. PW left the meeting It was agreed not to start actively recruiting museums to this project until the National Portrait Gallery issue had been resolved. Workplace Learning Lunches (AT) AT reported that SV has agreed to lead this initiative. We need at least four people to present and four people have already signed up at the initiative page . In addition, Cormac Lawler has signed up at Speakers and may be interested - AT agreed to approach. Progress in other areas in on hold pending discussions with the two Steves. ACTION: AT It was agreed to broaden the initiative to try to recruit organisations other than the BBC. AT agreed to talk to SV about this. ACTION: AT Content access partnership (MP) It was agreed that approaches to museums should be hold pending resolution of the NPG issue. The board discussed whether we could use the money to buy digitization equipment which could be loaned out to small museums and councils in exchange for free content rights. It was suggested we continue thinking about these areas and discuss again at the next initiatives meeting. JS suggested an event along the lines of the Wikimedia Australia GLAM-WIKI event. AT suggested this may be good as a follow up to Britain Loves Wikipedia. Other Initiative proposals (either sequential, or specific ones) (MP) The Board discussed ways of responding to the other proposed initiatives . It was agreed that if we get an initiative put forward by someone not currently active then we should make sure that we discuss it and get them involved. Date & content of next Initiatives meeting It was agreed to discuss this at the next regular board meeting on the 5th August. Meeting closed at 10:41pm.

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