Wikimediauk-l February 2009

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Fwd: ZDNet: IWF on Wikipedia block
by David Gerard 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

2009/2/20 David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com>: > 2009/2/20 David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com>: >> http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/0,1000000097,39616171,00.htm > http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/20/1439246 Oh, and is anyone in Cambridge looking for work? http://jobs.cambridge-news.co.uk/jobs/show_job.asp?index=2&sa_id=329197651 - d.

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ZDNet: IWF on Wikipedia block
by David Gerard 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/0,1000000097,39616171,00.htm I added a very pointed comment indeed. - d.

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Address
by Al Tally 19 Feb '09

19 Feb '09

At the bottom of each email on this list, it still gives the old URL to the meta page, instead of to http://uk.wikimedia.org. Can this be fixed? Thanks, -- Alex (User:Majorly)

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Social Entrepreneur awards
by Andrew Cates 17 Feb '09

17 Feb '09

Is Wikipedia UK pitching for the HBOS social entrepreneur awards? I was kind of wondering about putting the Schools Wikipedia in as a pitch Andrew aka BozMo

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Budget committee
by joseph seddon 16 Feb '09

16 Feb '09

Tobacco wouldn't be possible due to uk advertising laws anyway. We would need to seek advice from the foundation on things which could be considered touchy in terms of pr. -----Original Message----- From: Virgin Steve <Steve.Virgin(a)dowjones.com> Sent: 16 February 2009 22:46 To: josephseddon(a)googlemail.com Subject: RE: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Budget committee Where would you guys take money from? I ask as a lot of the 'sin stocks' have cash and I could approach but it might not be the kind of thing that fits with the 'teams' Eg: GM company and tobacco company (that kind of thing) -----Original Message----- From: wikimediauk-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of joseph seddon Sent: 16 February 2009 20:01 To: wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Budget committee We are allowed to contract multinational companies. There is a possibility of sponsorship from american company anyway. I don't think that its wrong cause at the end of the day, we can pass on sponsors in the event we don't win. Iv been doing exactly what your suggesting. seddon -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> Sent: 16 February 2009 19:27 To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Budget committee 2009/2/16 joseph seddon <life_is_bitter_sweet(a)hotmail.co.uk>: > That may be but previous bids have gotten by. We need to assume that there is no international sponsorship. We are running out of time fast. We have to go with worst case scenario. We have a month and a half left, we need to keep moving, but there's no need to rush. I guess out first step is to put together a list of costs, then we can work out minimum and desired values for each. So, here goes: * Venue hire * Catering * Parties venue hire/catering * Security (possibly comes with venue - I'm not really sure what we need in this regard, but I guess some kind of security would be good) * Travel/accommodation sponsorship * VIP expenses Have I missed anything? (I expect I have.) And a list of income sources: * Sponsors * Ticket sales I think that's it. I'm not sure we can just assume there won't be any international sponsorship, since we need to know whether we should be contacting multinationals or not. If the WMF aren't going to do that (which they really should), then we should be contacting the UK branches of all the multinationals listed at http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sponsors _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Budget committee
by Virgin, Steve 16 Feb '09

16 Feb '09

I will introduce you to amec when I stop being stuck in hotels. Association of media evaluation companies. I may even sound out a couple of clients I am very close to I cannot do it after one day in the wikkipedian fold. I am in london later this week anyone available? Maybe can bring russia on board. -----Original Message----- From: wikimediauk-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Mon Feb 16 20:18:52 2009 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Budget committee 2009/2/16 joseph seddon <life_is_bitter_sweet(a)hotmail.co.uk>: > We are allowed to contract multinational companies. There is a possibility of sponsorship from american company anyway. I don't think that its wrong cause at the end of the day, we can pass on sponsors in the event we don't win. Iv been doing exactly what your suggesting. I know we're allowed, but it's a waste of everyone's time (including that of the people we contact - we should try and avoid wasting the time of potential sponsors!) if the WMF are going to do it (and it's far better if they do since they can arrange ongoing deals, we can only arrange it for one year). _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Budget committee
by joseph seddon 16 Feb '09

16 Feb '09

We are allowed to contract multinational companies. There is a possibility of sponsorship from american company anyway. I don't think that its wrong cause at the end of the day, we can pass on sponsors in the event we don't win. Iv been doing exactly what your suggesting. seddon -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> Sent: 16 February 2009 19:27 To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Budget committee 2009/2/16 joseph seddon <life_is_bitter_sweet(a)hotmail.co.uk>: > That may be but previous bids have gotten by. We need to assume that there is no international sponsorship. We are running out of time fast. We have to go with worst case scenario. We have a month and a half left, we need to keep moving, but there's no need to rush. I guess out first step is to put together a list of costs, then we can work out minimum and desired values for each. So, here goes: * Venue hire * Catering * Parties venue hire/catering * Security (possibly comes with venue - I'm not really sure what we need in this regard, but I guess some kind of security would be good) * Travel/accommodation sponsorship * VIP expenses Have I missed anything? (I expect I have.) And a list of income sources: * Sponsors * Ticket sales I think that's it. I'm not sure we can just assume there won't be any international sponsorship, since we need to know whether we should be contacting multinationals or not. If the WMF aren't going to do that (which they really should), then we should be contacting the UK branches of all the multinationals listed at http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sponsors _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Budget committee
by joseph seddon 16 Feb '09

16 Feb '09

That may be but previous bids have gotten by. We need to assume that there is no international sponsorship. We are running out of time fast. We have to go with worst case scenario. Seddon -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> Sent: 16 February 2009 19:11 To: life_is_bitter_sweet(a)hotmail.co.uk Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Budget committee 2009/2/16 joseph seddon <life_is_bitter_sweet(a)hotmail.co.uk>: > There seems to be no actual budgets available for previous years. I think the practice is get sponsorship to meet you budget rather than the other way around. Common sense suggests a combination of the two is required. You can't come up with a realistic budget without knowing what level of sponsorship is realistic and you can't get sponsorship without a budget, so you need to work on both together.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Budget committee
by joseph seddon 16 Feb '09

16 Feb '09

Iv been pestering cary bass for the last 3 months as well as having emailed the wikimania mailing list and either couldn't give me any more info or had no response respectively. I think it is in our best interests to assume for the time being that they are the same as last years. There is a lot that is going to be needed to be done no matter what. -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> Sent: 16 February 2009 18:52 To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Budget committee 2009/2/16 Martin Peeks <martinp23(a)googlemail.com>: > I think the Event is likely, in part, to be awarded on the basis of the > initiative shown by the bid-team. Not so much waiting for leadership as > chasing up the information and getting as much done as possible. Chasing up sounds like a good idea - we should email someone at the WMF about budgetary issues. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l

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Wikimania Budget committee
by joseph seddon 16 Feb '09

16 Feb '09

With the bid page coming along nicely, I want to get work started on the budget. This is something that needs to be broken down between several people. Because of this I wish to form an informal body to work on this. Little or no experience is needed and all requirements will be provided and for the time being it can be mostly done through the internet. Can those interested please reply here or email me within the next few days? Seddon

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