Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] [Commons-l] Enabling the Translate and UniversalLanguageSelector extensions on Commons

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Jean-Frédéric

24 Apr 2013 24 Apr '13

7:26 p.m.

Hi,

I'd like to start a discussion about the merits and challenges of

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enabling the Translate and UniversalLanguageSelector extensions on Commons.

The UniversalLanguageSelector extension ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UniversalLanguageSelector ) allows users to easily switch the interface language; it also embeds an interface to enter text in non-Latin languages even if your keyboard doesn't allow it.

My feeling is that both these tools would dramatically improve the user experience on Commons for people who don't use English. As a multilingual wiki, Commons even seems like the perfect audience for these tools.

FYI, I quick drafted < https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/UniversalLan...

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in order to discuss the possible issues, then gain community consensus and hopefully get ULS enabled on Wikimedia Commons

(I thought it was better to leave the question of the Translate extension to another discussion, as there seems to be more hurdles with the transition).

Thanks,

-- Jean-Frédéric

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Jean-Frédéric

28 Apr 28 Apr

8:49 p.m.

New subject: [Commons-l] Enabling the Translate and UniversalLanguageSelector extensions on Commons

Hi,

FYI, I quick drafted

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< https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/UniversalLan...

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in order to discuss the possible issues, then gain community consensus and hopefully get ULS enabled on Wikimedia Commons

(I thought it was better to leave the question of the Translate extension to another discussion, as there seems to be more hurdles with the transition).

Scrap that, I drafted as well < https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/Translate_ex...

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Your input is welcome.

Thanks,

-- Jean-Frédéric

Jean-Frédéric

10 May 10 May

11:37 p.m.

New subject: [Commons-l] Enabling the Translate and UniversalLanguageSelector extensions on Commons

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I'd like to start a discussion about the merits and challenges of

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enabling the Translate and UniversalLanguageSelector extensions on Commons.

FYI, I quick drafted

< https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/UniversalLan...

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in order to discuss the possible issues, then gain community consensus and hopefully get ULS enabled on Wikimedia Commons

Just a quick follow up on this. ULS has been enabled on CommonsBeta (thanks to Nemo I think!) ; but apart fromThere has not been much activity on the RFC, unfortunately.

I am unsure what needs to be done by whom and when. Should we already try to seek large Commons community consensus? Should the i18n folks comment on the deployment plan before?

Thanks for your answers,

-- Jean-Frédéric

Federico Leva (Nemo)

11 May 11 May

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New subject: [Commons-l] Enabling the Translate and UniversalLanguageSelector extensions on Commons

Jean-Frédéric, 10/05/2013 18:37:

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    I'd like to start a discussion about the merits and challenges of
    enabling the Translate and UniversalLanguageSelector extensions on
    Commons.

FYI, I quick drafted
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/UniversalLanguageSelector>
in order to discuss the possible issues, then gain community
consensus and hopefully get ULS enabled on Wikimedia Commons

Just a quick follow up on this. ULS has been enabled on CommonsBeta (thanks to Nemo I think!) ;

Noo it's just the ULS deployment plan by the WMF Language engineering team (we'll hear about it very soon).

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but apart fromThere has not been much activity on the RFC, unfortunately.

I am unsure what needs to be done by whom and when. Should we already try to seek large Commons community consensus? Should the i18n folks comment on the deployment plan before?

The RfC s not even linked from https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment, I thought it wasn't officially open? It should just be advertised a little, with watchlist notices if needed.

Nemo

Jean-Frédéric

12:13 a.m.

New subject: [Commons-l] Enabling the Translate and UniversalLanguageSelector extensions on Commons

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Just a quick follow up on this. ULS has been enabled on CommonsBeta

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(thanks to Nemo I think!) ;

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Noo it's just the ULS deployment plan by the WMF Language engineering team (we'll hear about it very soon).

Oh, I see. Thanks to them then - though I am indeed eager to hear more about it...

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but apart fromThere has not been much

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activity on the RFC, unfortunately.

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I am unsure what needs to be done by whom and when. Should we already try to seek large Commons community consensus? Should the i18n folks comment on the deployment plan before?

The RfC s not even linked from < https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment%3E

It is from < https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Centralized_discussion%3E and was mentionned on the Village Pump.

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I thought it wasn't officially open?

Well, it is not in the sense I was not looking yet for the shower of Support/Oppose. I thought we needed to have it fleshed out a bit using the input of the i18n folks - but this was just how I saw the all thing, I am probably mistaken.

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