A couple of months ago I was asked to push code change for Samogotian. (At the time I hadn't have regulated my membership on this mailing list, then I forgot it.)
But Samogotian is not the only code to be fixed. Basically, we should make the decision and suggest to the Board/staff/Phabricator to proceed with that. I see that None of the cases I am suggesting is in any way problematic, as well as those names are already implemented into the interwiki codes.
bat-smg => sgs be-x-old => be-tarask fiu-vro => vro roa-rup => rup zh-classical => lzh zh-min-nan => nan zh-yue => yue
I don't know if you already did or not this, but I think it's time to push it.
In relation to the old codes, I think they should stay as "permanent redirects" as long as there is a traffic to them. They won't be used in any other case, so we don't need to hurry in relation to their removal.
Hi Milos,
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com wrote:
A couple of months ago I was asked to push code change for Samogotian. (At the time I hadn't have regulated my membership on this mailing list, then I forgot it.)
But Samogotian is not the only code to be fixed. Basically, we should make the decision and suggest to the Board/staff/Phabricator to proceed with that. I see that None of the cases I am suggesting is in any way problematic, as well as those names are already implemented into the interwiki codes.
bat-smg => sgs be-x-old => be-tarask fiu-vro => vro roa-rup => rup zh-classical => lzh zh-min-nan => nan zh-yue => yue
I don't know if you already did or not this, but I think it's time to push it.
In relation to the old codes, I think they should stay as "permanent redirects" as long as there is a traffic to them. They won't be used in any other case, so we don't need to hurry in relation to their removal.
Work has already begun to rename these wikis. Wearing my WMF staff hat as a community liaison and in User:Krenair's role as a developer, we are slowly planning to make our way through the list [0]. Be-x-old was already renamed to be-tarask as our first test [1], then we moved Wikimedia Eesti's wiki from et.wikimedia.org to ee.wikimedia.org (following the chapter wiki convention of country codes instead of language code). [2] Vöro is up next to be renamed after I got confirmation from the community that the request still stands last month [3], so that will be done soon. We are taking our time to make sure that each move does not expose new bugs and making sure that local consensus still stands for the requests as most are very old .
The old domain names are redirecting, as you suggest.
0. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T21986 1. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T11823 2. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T31919 3. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T31186#1622563%E2%80%8B
To add to Keegan's reply: be-tarask is already renamed, which sets a good and long-awaited precedent.
It is not entirely complete, though, as there is at least one technical issue remaining: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112426 . AFAIU, it is supposed to be resolved by Wikidata developers. It's rather important and I prefer not to rename any further wikis until there's a known way to resolve it.
But once that is done, yes, absolutely, let's rename them all.
As https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T21986 indicates, there are a few more that shouldn't be controversial: bh -> bho eml -> egl als -> gsw nrm -> nrf
And also a few others, though they will require consensus building: simple -> (not sure what; see another thread) no -> nb ku -> kmr
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2015-10-27 17:06 GMT+02:00 Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com:
A couple of months ago I was asked to push code change for Samogotian. (At the time I hadn't have regulated my membership on this mailing list, then I forgot it.)
But Samogotian is not the only code to be fixed. Basically, we should make the decision and suggest to the Board/staff/Phabricator to proceed with that. I see that None of the cases I am suggesting is in any way problematic, as well as those names are already implemented into the interwiki codes.
bat-smg => sgs be-x-old => be-tarask fiu-vro => vro roa-rup => rup zh-classical => lzh zh-min-nan => nan zh-yue => yue
I don't know if you already did or not this, but I think it's time to push it.
In relation to the old codes, I think they should stay as "permanent redirects" as long as there is a traffic to them. They won't be used in any other case, so we don't need to hurry in relation to their removal.
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
Keegan, Amir, thank you for clarifying this! And it's good to hear that it moved!
BTW, Allemanish community agreed with the code change? On Oct 28, 2015 08:40, "Amir E. Aharoni" amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
To add to Keegan's reply: be-tarask is already renamed, which sets a good and long-awaited precedent.
It is not entirely complete, though, as there is at least one technical issue remaining: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112426 . AFAIU, it is supposed to be resolved by Wikidata developers. It's rather important and I prefer not to rename any further wikis until there's a known way to resolve it.
But once that is done, yes, absolutely, let's rename them all.
As https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T21986 indicates, there are a few more that shouldn't be controversial: bh -> bho eml -> egl als -> gsw nrm -> nrf
And also a few others, though they will require consensus building: simple -> (not sure what; see another thread) no -> nb ku -> kmr
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2015-10-27 17:06 GMT+02:00 Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com:
A couple of months ago I was asked to push code change for Samogotian. (At the time I hadn't have regulated my membership on this mailing list, then I forgot it.)
But Samogotian is not the only code to be fixed. Basically, we should make the decision and suggest to the Board/staff/Phabricator to proceed with that. I see that None of the cases I am suggesting is in any way problematic, as well as those names are already implemented into the interwiki codes.
bat-smg => sgs be-x-old => be-tarask fiu-vro => vro roa-rup => rup zh-classical => lzh zh-min-nan => nan zh-yue => yue
I don't know if you already did or not this, but I think it's time to push it.
In relation to the old codes, I think they should stay as "permanent redirects" as long as there is a traffic to them. They won't be used in any other case, so we don't need to hurry in relation to their removal.
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
On 28.10.2015 08:45, Milos Rancic wrote:
Keegan, Amir, thank you for clarifying this! And its good to hear that it moved!
BTW, Allemanish community agreed with the code change?
My last information that there are grievances in part of the Wikedia community. Some are fatalistic about the change, saying: "Let us keep als as long as we can."
Purodha
On Oct 28, 2015 08:40, "Amir E. Aharoni" wrote:
To add to Keegans reply: be-tarask is already renamed, which sets a good and long-awaited precedent.
It is not entirely complete, though, as there is at least one technical issue remaining: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112426 [3] . AFAIU, it is supposed to be resolved by Wikidata developers. Its rather important and I prefer not to rename any further wikis until theres a known way to resolve it.
But once that is done, yes, absolutely, lets rename them all.
As https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T21986 [4] indicates, there are a few more that shouldnt be controversial:
bh -> bho
eml -> egl
als -> gsw
nrm -> nrf
And also a few others, though they will require consensus building:
simple -> (not sure what; see another thread)
no -> nb
ku -> kmr
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com [5] “Were living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2015-10-27 17:06 GMT+02:00 Milos Rancic :
A couple of months ago I was asked to push code change for Samogotian. (At the time I hadnt have regulated my membership on this mailing list, then I forgot it.)
But Samogotian is not the only code to be fixed. Basically, we should make the decision and suggest to the Board/staff/Phabricator to proceed with that. I see that None of the cases I am suggesting is in any way problematic, as well as those names are already implemented into the interwiki codes.
bat-smg => sgs be-x-old => be-tarask fiu-vro => vro roa-rup => rup
zh-classical => lzh zh-min-nan => nan zh-yue => yue
I dont know if you already did or not this, but I think its time to push it.
In relation to the old codes, I think they should stay as "permanent redirects" as long as there is a traffic to them. They wont be used in any other case, so we dont need to hurry in relation to their removal.
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org [1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom [2]
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org [7] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom [8]
Links:
[1] mailto:Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom [3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112426 [4] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T21986 [5] http://aharoni.wordpress.com [6] mailto:millosh@gmail.com [7] mailto:Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org [8] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom [9] mailto:amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il