I support it. Do we have expert verification?
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
בתאריך יום ב׳, 14 באוק׳ 2024 ב-20:49 מאת Satdeep Gill < satdeepgill@gmail.com>:
Hi all,
I propose the approval of Sylheti Wikipedia. They have consistently met the minimum criteria for over a year and half now and most important MediaWiki messages have already been translated:
meta.toolforge.org https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/syl&wiki=incubatorwiki#distribution_2024-10
https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/syl&wiki=incubatorwiki#distribution_2024-10 https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/syl&wiki=incubatorwiki#distribution_2024-10
Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Sylheti - Meta https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Sylheti meta.wikimedia.org https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Sylheti [image: community.ico] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Sylheti https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Sylheti
Language code lookup https://codelookup.toolforge.org/syl codelookup.toolforge.org https://codelookup.toolforge.org/syl https://codelookup.toolforge.org/syl https://codelookup.toolforge.org/syl
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Well, has the ongoing discussion within langcom regarding them been resolved? Otherwise, I think this should be a step towards getting advice on how to solve the problem, rather than a verification process that presupposes approval.
Sotiale
2024년 10월 15일 (화) 오전 9:56, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il님이 작성:
I support it. Do we have expert verification?
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
בתאריך יום ב׳, 14 באוק׳ 2024 ב-20:49 מאת Satdeep Gill < satdeepgill@gmail.com>:
Hi all,
I propose the approval of Sylheti Wikipedia. They have consistently met the minimum criteria for over a year and half now and most important MediaWiki messages have already been translated:
meta.toolforge.org https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/syl&wiki=incubatorwiki#distribution_2024-10
https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/syl&wiki=incubatorwiki#distribution_2024-10 https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/syl&wiki=incubatorwiki#distribution_2024-10
Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Sylheti - Meta https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Sylheti meta.wikimedia.org https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Sylheti [image: community.ico] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Sylheti https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Sylheti
Language code lookup https://codelookup.toolforge.org/syl codelookup.toolforge.org https://codelookup.toolforge.org/syl https://codelookup.toolforge.org/syl https://codelookup.toolforge.org/syl
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If I recall correctly, the issue was that this language can be written in both Sylheti and Bengali scripts, and the Incubator content is only in the Sylheti script, so some people in the committee weren't sure how to proceed.
*Asking* an expert about that doesn't presuppose approval. Quite the contrary—if no one in our committee knows the language and no one is sure which script should be used, asking an external expert is the only right way forward. Maybe the expert will say that the Sylheti script is better in the first place. Maybe the expert will say that using the Sylheti script is a bad idea, and it should be only the Bengali script, and in this case we probably shouldn't approve. Maybe the expert will say that both scripts are acceptable, and since the activity till now has been in the Sylheti script, that's how it should continue, but Bengali should be allowed, too. Maybe it will be something else. I honestly don't know.
So if anyone can find an independent and trustworthy expert, that will resolve the issue.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
בתאריך יום ב׳, 14 באוק׳ 2024 ב-22:37 מאת Sotiale Wiki < sotiale.wm@gmail.com>:
Well, has the ongoing discussion within langcom regarding them been resolved? Otherwise, I think this should be a step towards getting advice on how to solve the problem, rather than a verification process that presupposes approval.
Sotiale
2024년 10월 15일 (화) 오전 9:56, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il님이 작성:
I support it. Do we have expert verification?
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
בתאריך יום ב׳, 14 באוק׳ 2024 ב-20:49 מאת Satdeep Gill < satdeepgill@gmail.com>:
Hi all,
I propose the approval of Sylheti Wikipedia. They have consistently met the minimum criteria for over a year and half now and most important MediaWiki messages have already been translated:
meta.toolforge.org https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/syl&wiki=incubatorwiki#distribution_2024-10
https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/syl&wiki=incubatorwiki#distribution_2024-10 https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/syl&wiki=incubatorwiki#distribution_2024-10
Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Sylheti - Meta https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Sylheti meta.wikimedia.org https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Sylheti [image: community.ico] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Sylheti https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Sylheti
Language code lookup https://codelookup.toolforge.org/syl codelookup.toolforge.org https://codelookup.toolforge.org/syl https://codelookup.toolforge.org/syl https://codelookup.toolforge.org/syl
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In the thread discussing the initial approval, there was no mention of the previous issue, so it can only be seen as a procedure for approval. Naturally, if the expert verification is negative, the procedure is blocked. Otherwise, the process will move to discussions for approval.
And the previously mentioned issue, there is a point that needs to be verified. This is only a claim, so it has not been confirmed yet. 1. Most speakers cannot read the currently written script (the first issue raised)
So the following point was raised; 2. Even in this case, whether a feature like a script converter can be used
Basically, the community had a negative impression of 2 for Wp. And no reliable evidence was presented to refute 1. I think if we can get an answer from the experts that can resolve this issue, we will be able to resolve this issue that has been pending for a long time.
Sotiale
2024년 10월 15일 (화) 오전 11:51, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il님이 작성:
If I recall correctly, the issue was that this language can be written in both Sylheti and Bengali scripts, and the Incubator content is only in the Sylheti script, so some people in the committee weren't sure how to proceed.
*Asking* an expert about that doesn't presuppose approval. Quite the contrary—if no one in our committee knows the language and no one is sure which script should be used, asking an external expert is the only right way forward. Maybe the expert will say that the Sylheti script is better in the first place. Maybe the expert will say that using the Sylheti script is a bad idea, and it should be only the Bengali script, and in this case we probably shouldn't approve. Maybe the expert will say that both scripts are acceptable, and since the activity till now has been in the Sylheti script, that's how it should continue, but Bengali should be allowed, too. Maybe it will be something else. I honestly don't know.
So if anyone can find an independent and trustworthy expert, that will resolve the issue.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
בתאריך יום ב׳, 14 באוק׳ 2024 ב-22:37 מאת Sotiale Wiki < sotiale.wm@gmail.com>:
Well, has the ongoing discussion within langcom regarding them been resolved? Otherwise, I think this should be a step towards getting advice on how to solve the problem, rather than a verification process that presupposes approval.
Sotiale
2024년 10월 15일 (화) 오전 9:56, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il님이 작성:
I support it. Do we have expert verification?
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
בתאריך יום ב׳, 14 באוק׳ 2024 ב-20:49 מאת Satdeep Gill < satdeepgill@gmail.com>:
Hi all,
I propose the approval of Sylheti Wikipedia. They have consistently met the minimum criteria for over a year and half now and most important MediaWiki messages have already been translated:
meta.toolforge.org https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/syl&wiki=incubatorwiki#distribution_2024-10
https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/syl&wiki=incubatorwiki#distribution_2024-10 https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/syl&wiki=incubatorwiki#distribution_2024-10
Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Sylheti - Meta https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Sylheti meta.wikimedia.org https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Sylheti [image: community.ico] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Sylheti https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Sylheti
Language code lookup https://codelookup.toolforge.org/syl codelookup.toolforge.org https://codelookup.toolforge.org/syl https://codelookup.toolforge.org/syl https://codelookup.toolforge.org/syl
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