- by get rid I mean: deletion. Maybe preserve the discussions somewhere
We can also just mark them as rejected, but I would prefer if such
frivolous proposals wouldn't be there if some genuine interest pops up and
the first thing the interested people see is "REJECTED".
Am Di., 24. Nov. 2020 um 16:15 Uhr schrieb Kimberli Mäkäräinen <
As this language has not a single documented word that
can be used to
translate the UI and no native speakers left to create these words (this is
not the job of outsiders), it will never be a viable project.
Even a simple task like creating articles on the countries of the world is
impossible, because the names of all of these countries simply don't exist
in Kamassian. The 1600+ documented, actual Kamassian words could be taken
to Wiktionary and documents when allowed to Wikisource. By taking words,
syntax, etc. from Russian or other languages and claiming it as Kamassian,
this will have a negative impact on any computational linguistics
applications that use this material, etc. Claiming that Kamassian articles
can be written based on having another Finno-Ugric language as one's mother
tongue is like saying one can write articles in Hindi because one's mother
tongue is English.
I'm concerned that this does not seem to be understood, especially
considering that this has already occurred with other languages that
non-native speakers have taken upon themselves to "revive". There are
already a number of incubator projects that need to be deleted because the
community refuses to touch them because of the project's low quality thanks
to non-natives with good intentions. There is, as we speak, a massive
community-led effort to rid the Scots Wikipedia of the contributions of a
non-native outsider who claimed to know the language. It is not mean to say
so; it is a reality that needs to be understood.
*From:* Langcom <langcom-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of
Valtteri Lahti <valtteri.lahti(a)icloud.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 24, 2020 9:34 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [Langcom] Wikipedia Kamassian
Hello, does the kamassian wiki pages have to be deleted? The russian loans
are very small in number because 1600+ words are documented. Also even if
it cant get accepted, instead of deleting all pages can it be left like the
enets wikiincubator, people can see the pages but is rejected.
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