- by get rid I mean: deletion. Maybe preserve the discussions somewhere
else.
We can also just mark them as rejected, but I would prefer if such
frivolous proposals wouldn't be there if some genuine interest pops up and
the first thing the interested people see is "REJECTED".
Thoughts?
Am Di., 24. Nov. 2020 um 16:15 Uhr schrieb Kimberli Mäkäräinen <
kimberli.makarainen(a)tuni.fi>gt;:
As this language has not a single documented word
that can be used to
translate the UI and no native speakers left to create these words (this is
not the job of outsiders), it will never be a viable project.
Even a simple task like creating articles on the countries of the world
is impossible, because the names of all of these countries simply don't
exist in Kamassian. The 1600+ documented, actual Kamassian words could
be taken to Wiktionary and documents when allowed to Wikisource. By taking
words, syntax, etc. from Russian or other languages and claiming it as
Kamassian, this will have a negative impact on any computational
linguistics applications that use this material, etc. Claiming that
Kamassian articles can be written based on having another Finno-Ugric
language as one's mother tongue is like saying one can write articles in
Hindi because one's mother tongue is English.
I'm concerned that this does not seem to be understood, especially
considering that this has already occurred with other languages that
non-native speakers have taken upon themselves to "revive". There are
already a number of incubator projects that need to be deleted because the
community refuses to touch them because of the project's low quality thanks
to non-natives with good intentions. There is, as we speak, a massive
community-led effort to rid the Scots Wikipedia of the contributions of a
non-native outsider who claimed to know the language. It is not mean to say
so; it is a reality that needs to be understood.
-K
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*Subject:* Re: [Langcom] Wikipedia Kamassian
Hello, does the kamassian wiki pages have to be deleted? The russian
loans are very small in number because 1600+ words are documented. Also
even if it cant get accepted, instead of deleting all pages can it be left
like the enets wikiincubator, people can see the pages but is rejected.
-ValtteriLahti12
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