As this language has not a single documented word that can be used to translate the UI and
no native speakers left to create these words (this is not the job of outsiders), it will
never be a viable project.
Even a simple task like creating articles on the countries of the world is impossible,
because the names of all of these countries simply don't exist in Kamassian. The 1600+
documented, actual Kamassian words could be taken to Wiktionary and documents when allowed
to Wikisource. By taking words, syntax, etc. from Russian or other languages and claiming
it as Kamassian, this will have a negative impact on any computational linguistics
applications that use this material, etc. Claiming that Kamassian articles can be written
based on having another Finno-Ugric language as one's mother tongue is like saying one
can write articles in Hindi because one's mother tongue is English.
I'm concerned that this does not seem to be understood, especially considering that
this has already occurred with other languages that non-native speakers have taken upon
themselves to "revive". There are already a number of incubator projects that
need to be deleted because the community refuses to touch them because of the
project's low quality thanks to non-natives with good intentions. There is, as we
speak, a massive community-led effort to rid the Scots Wikipedia of the contributions of a
non-native outsider who claimed to know the language. It is not mean to say so; it is a
reality that needs to be understood.
-K
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From: Langcom <langcom-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of Valtteri Lahti
<valtteri.lahti(a)icloud.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 9:34 AM
To: langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org <langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Langcom] Wikipedia Kamassian
Hello, does the kamassian wiki pages have to be deleted? The russian loans are very small
in number because 1600+ words are documented. Also even if it cant get accepted, instead
of deleting all pages can it be left like the enets wikiincubator, people can see the
pages but is rejected. -ValtteriLahti12
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