Another linguist has confirmed that the language is indeed khowar. Hence i propose the creation of this project.
Regards Satdeep Gill
________________________________ From: Henrik Liljegren henrik@ling.su.se Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 1:24:15 PM To: Satdeep Gill Subject: RE: Khowar Wikipedia analysis
Hi Satdeep, It is indeed Khowar that is written in the sample page. Best, Henrik
From: Satdeep Gill [mailto:satdeepgill@gmail.com] Sent: 11 February 2017 02:39 To: Henrik Liljegren henrik@ling.su.se Subject: Khowar Wikipedia analysis
Hi Henrik, Khowar Wikipedians have been trying to build a Wikipedia in Khowar langauge. The project, as of now, is at Incubator. Can you confirm if the language written in actually Khowar or something else ? Here is a list to all the pages in this project:
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Wp/khw/
Or just have a look at this random page:
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/khw/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%81_%...https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/khw/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%81_%D8%AD%D8%B3%DB%8C%D9%86_%D8%AD%D8%A7%D9%84%DB%8C Hoping to hear soon from you. This will help people speaking Khowar to have a separate Wikipedia project. -- Regards Satdeep Gill Language Committee Wikimedia Foundation
So, it's been approved after the first expert confirmed that the written material is indeed in particular language. Do you want to proceed with the approval process? (I've marked it as approved on the page Requests for new languages.)
Also, may you prepare a couple of paragraphs about Khowar people, language and culture for the time when the wiki would be created to be sent on wikimedia-l and on blog.wikimedia.org?
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Satdeep Gill satdeepgill@gmail.com wrote:
Another linguist has confirmed that the language is indeed khowar. Hence i propose the creation of this project.
Regards Satdeep Gill
From: Henrik Liljegren henrik@ling.su.se Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 1:24:15 PM To: Satdeep Gill Subject: RE: Khowar Wikipedia analysis
Hi Satdeep,
It is indeed Khowar that is written in the sample page.
Best,
Henrik
From: Satdeep Gill [mailto:satdeepgill@gmail.com] Sent: 11 February 2017 02:39 To: Henrik Liljegren henrik@ling.su.se Subject: Khowar Wikipedia analysis
Hi Henrik,
Khowar Wikipedians have been trying to build a Wikipedia in Khowar langauge. The project, as of now, is at Incubator. Can you confirm if the language written in actually Khowar or something else ?
Here is a list to all the pages in this project:
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Wp/khw/
Or just have a look at this random page:
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/khw/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%81_%...
Hoping to hear soon from you. This will help people speaking Khowar to have a separate Wikipedia project.
--
Regards
Satdeep Gill
Language Committee
Wikimedia Foundation
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
Awesome! Indeed I would like us to start with the approval process.
I can surely prepare a paragraph about the Khowar people, language and culture in the next two days.
Regards Satdeep Gill
From: Milos Rancic Sent: Sunday, February 26, 17:05 Subject: Re: [Langcom] Khowar Wikipedia analysis To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
So, it's been approved after the first expert confirmed that the written material is indeed in particular language. Do you want to proceed with the approval process? (I've marked it as approved on the page Requests for new languages.) Also, may you prepare a couple of paragraphs about Khowar people, language and culture for the time when the wiki would be created to be sent on wikimedia-l and on blog.wikimedia.org? On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Satdeep Gill wrote: > Another linguist has confirmed that the language is indeed khowar. Hence i > propose the creation of this project. > > Regards > Satdeep Gill > > > ________________________________ > From: Henrik Liljegren > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 1:24:15 PM > To: Satdeep Gill > Subject: RE: Khowar Wikipedia analysis > > > Hi Satdeep, > > It is indeed Khowar that is written in the sample page. > > Best, > > Henrik > > > > From: Satdeep Gill [mailto:satdeepgill@gmail.com] > Sent: 11 February 2017 02:39 > To: Henrik Liljegren > Subject: Khowar Wikipedia analysis > > > > Hi Henrik, > > Khowar Wikipedians have been trying to build a Wikipedia in Khowar langauge. > The project, as of now, is at Incubator. Can you confirm if the language > written in actually Khowar or something else ? > > Here is a list to all the pages in this project: > > https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Wp/khw/ > > > Or just have a look at this random page: > > https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/khw/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%81_%... > > Hoping to hear soon from you. This will help people speaking Khowar to have > a separate Wikipedia project. > > -- > > Regards > > Satdeep Gill > > Language Committee > > Wikimedia Foundation > > > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Satdeep Gill satdeepgill@gmail.com wrote:
I can surely prepare a paragraph about the Khowar people, language and culture in the next two days.
A couple of paragraphs, a legitimate blog post :) But it's not that hard: Wikipedia and Ethnologue could give you all necessary data and you should just arrange it: people, culture, language. We should start promoting languages on blog.wikimedia.org :)
Awesome! I would love to write for the wikimedia blog. And yes, we should promote languages on the blog.
I will do it the next few days.
Regards Satdeep Gill
From: Milos Rancic Sent: Sunday, February 26, 17:47 Subject: Re: [Langcom] Khowar Wikipedia analysis To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Satdeep Gill wrote: > I can surely prepare a paragraph about the Khowar people, language and > culture in the next two days. A couple of paragraphs, a legitimate blog post :) But it's not that hard: Wikipedia and Ethnologue could give you all necessary data and you should just arrange it: people, culture, language. We should start promoting languages on blog.wikimedia.org :) _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
This is my first ever comment on this list, so namaste everyone!
I've taken the liberty of putting together a text about the Kho people. It is obviously a draft, and there is much room for improvement. I just hope that it serves as a starting point for Satdeep to create a better flowing final text for the blog. Here it is:
---- The Kho people (Khowar: کھو, meaning "people"), also known as Chitralis (چترالي), are a Dardic ethnic group located primarily in South Asia. They are the predominant ethnic group in the Chitral region of Pakistan. It is estimated that their current population is approximately 300,000 people, most of whom live in Pakistan, with a small population living in Afghanistan. They are mostly Sunni and Ismaili Muslims.
Kho culture is an ancient culture which places heavy emphasis on poetry, song, and dance. Folk singers, sitar and reed instrument players are respected members of the community. Kho people also have a great respect for law and order. Much of this can be attributed to Chitral being a stable kingdom for most of its history, where the rule of law and the will of the ruler came before tribal concepts such as revenge and isolationism. The festivities are mostly related to agriculture, which reveals the significance of agriculture for the Kho people.
Their language, Khowar, is a Indo-Aryan language of the Dardic branch. Alternate names include Arniya, Chitrali, Kashkari, Patu, and variants thereof. This SOV language is spoken by the Kho people in Chitral district, Ghizer district of Gilgit-Baltistan (including the Yasin Valley, Golaghmuli Valley, Phandar Ishkoman and Gupis), and in parts of Upper Swat. Speakers of Khowar have also migrated heavily to Pakistan's major urban centres, including but not limited to Peshawar, Islamabad, Lahore, and Karachi. Khowar is spoken as a second language in the rest of Gilgit and Hunza. Dialects include North Khowar, South Khowar, East Khowar, and Swat Kwohar, with the North Khowar considered as the high variety. Kho people use Naskh and Nastaliq variants of the Arabic script to write Khowar. ----
Best,
Vito
2017-02-26 15:55 GMT+03:00 Satdeep Gill satdeepgill@gmail.com:
Awesome! I would love to write for the wikimedia blog. And yes, we should promote languages on the blog.
I will do it the next few days.
Regards Satdeep Gill
From: Milos Rancic Sent: Sunday, February 26, 17:47 Subject: Re: [Langcom] Khowar Wikipedia analysis To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Satdeep Gill wrote: > I can surely prepare a paragraph about the Khowar people, language and > culture in the next two days. A couple of paragraphs, a legitimate blog post :) But it's not that hard: Wikipedia and Ethnologue could give you all necessary data and you should just arrange it: people, culture, language. We should start promoting languages on blog.wikimedia.org :) _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/ mailman/listinfo/langcom
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
Thank you, Vito! And, yes, inputs of this kind are definitely welcome!
I would also like that we have proper attribution for the posts. For example, to sign it as "Language committee (written by Vito [&...])". Vito, what's your preferred Wikimedia user page?
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Vito Genovese vitomedia@gmail.com wrote:
This is my first ever comment on this list, so namaste everyone!
I've taken the liberty of putting together a text about the Kho people. It is obviously a draft, and there is much room for improvement. I just hope that it serves as a starting point for Satdeep to create a better flowing final text for the blog. Here it is:
The Kho people (Khowar: کھو, meaning "people"), also known as Chitralis (چترالي), are a Dardic ethnic group located primarily in South Asia. They are the predominant ethnic group in the Chitral region of Pakistan. It is estimated that their current population is approximately 300,000 people, most of whom live in Pakistan, with a small population living in Afghanistan. They are mostly Sunni and Ismaili Muslims.
Kho culture is an ancient culture which places heavy emphasis on poetry, song, and dance. Folk singers, sitar and reed instrument players are respected members of the community. Kho people also have a great respect for law and order. Much of this can be attributed to Chitral being a stable kingdom for most of its history, where the rule of law and the will of the ruler came before tribal concepts such as revenge and isolationism. The festivities are mostly related to agriculture, which reveals the significance of agriculture for the Kho people.
Their language, Khowar, is a Indo-Aryan language of the Dardic branch. Alternate names include Arniya, Chitrali, Kashkari, Patu, and variants thereof. This SOV language is spoken by the Kho people in Chitral district, Ghizer district of Gilgit-Baltistan (including the Yasin Valley, Golaghmuli Valley, Phandar Ishkoman and Gupis), and in parts of Upper Swat. Speakers of Khowar have also migrated heavily to Pakistan's major urban centres, including but not limited to Peshawar, Islamabad, Lahore, and Karachi. Khowar is spoken as a second language in the rest of Gilgit and Hunza. Dialects include North Khowar, South Khowar, East Khowar, and Swat Kwohar, with the North Khowar considered as the high variety. Kho people use Naskh and Nastaliq variants of the Arabic script to write Khowar.
Best,
Vito
2017-02-26 15:55 GMT+03:00 Satdeep Gill satdeepgill@gmail.com:
Awesome! I would love to write for the wikimedia blog. And yes, we should promote languages on the blog.
I will do it the next few days.
Regards Satdeep Gill
From: Milos Rancic Sent: Sunday, February 26, 17:47 Subject: Re: [Langcom] Khowar Wikipedia analysis To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Satdeep Gill wrote: > I can surely prepare a paragraph about the Khowar people, language and > culture in the next two days. A couple of paragraphs, a legitimate blog post :) But it's not that hard: Wikipedia and Ethnologue could give you all necessary data and you should just arrange it: people, culture, language. We should start promoting languages on blog.wikimedia.org :) _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
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Thank you, Milos. Turkish Wikipedia is where my heart lies, so it is < https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vito_Genovese%3E. However, the text is mostly based on Kho-related enwiki articles. Proper attribution is indeed important, and if you wish, I might be able to identify the major contributors of these articles by doing some digging. Well, at least the authors of the relevant sections.
2017-02-26 18:18 GMT+03:00 Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com:
Thank you, Vito! And, yes, inputs of this kind are definitely welcome!
I would also like that we have proper attribution for the posts. For example, to sign it as "Language committee (written by Vito [&...])". Vito, what's your preferred Wikimedia user page?
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Vito Genovese vitomedia@gmail.com wrote:
This is my first ever comment on this list, so namaste everyone!
I've taken the liberty of putting together a text about the Kho people.
It
is obviously a draft, and there is much room for improvement. I just hope that it serves as a starting point for Satdeep to create a better flowing final text for the blog. Here it is:
The Kho people (Khowar: کھو, meaning "people"), also known as Chitralis (چترالي), are a Dardic ethnic group located primarily in South Asia. They are the predominant ethnic group in the Chitral region of Pakistan. It is estimated that their current population is approximately 300,000 people, most of whom live in Pakistan, with a small population living in Afghanistan. They are mostly Sunni and Ismaili Muslims.
Kho culture is an ancient culture which places heavy emphasis on poetry, song, and dance. Folk singers, sitar and reed instrument players are respected members of the community. Kho people also have a great respect
for
law and order. Much of this can be attributed to Chitral being a stable kingdom for most of its history, where the rule of law and the will of
the
ruler came before tribal concepts such as revenge and isolationism. The festivities are mostly related to agriculture, which reveals the significance of agriculture for the Kho people.
Their language, Khowar, is a Indo-Aryan language of the Dardic branch. Alternate names include Arniya, Chitrali, Kashkari, Patu, and variants thereof. This SOV language is spoken by the Kho people in Chitral
district,
Ghizer district of Gilgit-Baltistan (including the Yasin Valley,
Golaghmuli
Valley, Phandar Ishkoman and Gupis), and in parts of Upper Swat.
Speakers of
Khowar have also migrated heavily to Pakistan's major urban centres, including but not limited to Peshawar, Islamabad, Lahore, and Karachi. Khowar is spoken as a second language in the rest of Gilgit and Hunza. Dialects include North Khowar, South Khowar, East Khowar, and Swat
Kwohar,
with the North Khowar considered as the high variety. Kho people use
Naskh
and Nastaliq variants of the Arabic script to write Khowar.
Best,
Vito
2017-02-26 15:55 GMT+03:00 Satdeep Gill satdeepgill@gmail.com:
Awesome! I would love to write for the wikimedia blog. And yes, we
should
promote languages on the blog.
I will do it the next few days.
Regards Satdeep Gill
From: Milos Rancic Sent: Sunday, February 26, 17:47 Subject: Re: [Langcom] Khowar Wikipedia analysis To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Satdeep Gill wrote: > I can surely prepare a paragraph about the Khowar people, language and > culture in
the
next two days. A couple of paragraphs, a legitimate blog post :) But
it's
not that hard: Wikipedia and Ethnologue could give you all necessary
data
and you should just arrange it: people, culture, language. We should
start
promoting languages on blog.wikimedia.org :) _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
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I haven't checked very thoroughly, but it looks that the current content in the incubator is quite messy - there are a lot of ultra-short atticles about numbers, some pages in English, and some other problems. Do the authors pack to clean that up? I'd be happier of they started this cleanup right now, before approval, domain creation, and import.
בתאריך 26 בפבר׳ 2017 01:35 PM, "Milos Rancic" millosh@gmail.com כתב:
So, it's been approved after the first expert confirmed that the written material is indeed in particular language. Do you want to proceed with the approval process? (I've marked it as approved on the page Requests for new languages.)
Also, may you prepare a couple of paragraphs about Khowar people, language and culture for the time when the wiki would be created to be sent on wikimedia-l and on blog.wikimedia.org?
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Satdeep Gill satdeepgill@gmail.com wrote:
Another linguist has confirmed that the language is indeed khowar. Hence
i
propose the creation of this project.
Regards Satdeep Gill
From: Henrik Liljegren henrik@ling.su.se Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 1:24:15 PM To: Satdeep Gill Subject: RE: Khowar Wikipedia analysis
Hi Satdeep,
It is indeed Khowar that is written in the sample page.
Best,
Henrik
From: Satdeep Gill [mailto:satdeepgill@gmail.com] Sent: 11 February 2017 02:39 To: Henrik Liljegren henrik@ling.su.se Subject: Khowar Wikipedia analysis
Hi Henrik,
Khowar Wikipedians have been trying to build a Wikipedia in Khowar
langauge.
The project, as of now, is at Incubator. Can you confirm if the language written in actually Khowar or something else ?
Here is a list to all the pages in this project:
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Wp/khw/
Or just have a look at this random page:
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/khw/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%81_%...
Hoping to hear soon from you. This will help people speaking Khowar to
have
a separate Wikipedia project.
--
Regards
Satdeep Gill
Language Committee
Wikimedia Foundation
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
2017-02-26 16:08 GMT+01:00 Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il:
I haven't checked very thoroughly, but it looks that the current content in the incubator is quite messy - there are a lot of ultra-short atticles about numbers, some pages in English, and some other problems. Do the authors pack to clean that up? I'd be happier of they started this cleanup right now, before approval, domain creation, and import.
Incubator admin StevenJ81 conveyed this your comment to < https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incubator:Community_Portal#Thanks_.28Wp.... It seems like they are now trying to fix it. I will wait to create a bug report until that is solved.
בתאריך 26 בפבר׳ 2017 01:35 PM, "Milos Rancic" millosh@gmail.com כתב:
So, it's been approved after the first expert confirmed that the
written material is indeed in particular language. Do you want to proceed with the approval process? (I've marked it as approved on the page Requests for new languages.)
Also, may you prepare a couple of paragraphs about Khowar people, language and culture for the time when the wiki would be created to be sent on wikimedia-l and on blog.wikimedia.org?
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Satdeep Gill satdeepgill@gmail.com wrote:
Another linguist has confirmed that the language is indeed khowar.
Hence i
propose the creation of this project.
Regards Satdeep Gill
From: Henrik Liljegren henrik@ling.su.se Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 1:24:15 PM To: Satdeep Gill Subject: RE: Khowar Wikipedia analysis
Hi Satdeep,
It is indeed Khowar that is written in the sample page.
Best,
Henrik
From: Satdeep Gill [mailto:satdeepgill@gmail.com] Sent: 11 February 2017 02:39 To: Henrik Liljegren henrik@ling.su.se Subject: Khowar Wikipedia analysis
Hi Henrik,
Khowar Wikipedians have been trying to build a Wikipedia in Khowar
langauge.
The project, as of now, is at Incubator. Can you confirm if the language written in actually Khowar or something else ?
Here is a list to all the pages in this project:
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Wp/khw/
Or just have a look at this random page:
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/khw/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%81_%...
Hoping to hear soon from you. This will help people speaking Khowar to
have
a separate Wikipedia project.
--
Regards
Satdeep Gill
Language Committee
Wikimedia Foundation
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
Hi everyone. I have prepared a draft regarding Khowar language, people and culture:
Khowar is a Dardic language spoken by Kho people.The language is known by many other names such as Arniya, Chitrali, Kashkari, Patu. This SOV language is spoken by the Kho people in Chitral district, Ghizer district of Gilgit-Baltistan (including the Yasin Valley, Golaghmuli Valley, Phandar Ishkoman and Gupis), and in parts of Upper Swat. Khowar is spoken as a second language in the rest of Gilgit and Hunza. Dialects include North Khowar, South Khowar, East Khowar, and Swat Kwohar, with the North Khowar considered as the high variety. Kho people use Naskh and Nastaliq variants of the Arabic script to write Khowar.
The Kho people (Khowar: کھو, meaning "people"), also known as Chitralis (چترالي), are a Dardic ethnic group located primarily in South Asia. They are the predominant ethnic group in the Chitral region of Pakistan. It is estimated that their current population is approximately 300,000 people, most of whom live in Pakistan, with a small population living in Afghanistan. They are mostly Sunni and Ismaili Muslims.
Kho culture is an ancient culture which places heavy emphasis on poetry, song, and dance. Folk singers, sitar and reed instrument players are respected members of the community. Kho people also have a great respect for law and order. Much of this can be attributed to Chitral being a stable kingdom for most of its history, where the rule of law and the will of the ruler came before tribal concepts such as revenge and isolationism. The festivities are mostly related to agriculture, which reveals the significance of agriculture for the Kho people.
First efforts to build a Wikipedia in Khowar language started in 2010. User:Rachitrali also known as Rehmat Aziz Chitrali has been contributing to the project since then. Other Khowar speakers joined him and the incubator project consistently grew in the first 6 months of 2013. The community has now been consistently contributing since October 2014. Rachitrali https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/user:Rachitrali (5601 edits), Mirajbibi https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/user:Mirajbibi (3138 edits) and Zaheeruddin25 https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/user:Zaheeruddin25 (2956 edits) have been the top contributors. Besides them there are 19 more editors who made 100 or more contributions to the project.
-- Vito Genovese https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kullan%C4%B1c%C4%B1:Vito_Genovese, Satdeep Gill
Regards Satdeep Gill
Punjabi Wikimedians https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_Wikimedians Member, Affiliations Committee https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee Member, Language Committee https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_committee
On 2 March 2017 at 02:06, MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com wrote:
2017-02-26 16:08 GMT+01:00 Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il:
I haven't checked very thoroughly, but it looks that the current content in the incubator is quite messy - there are a lot of ultra-short atticles about numbers, some pages in English, and some other problems. Do the authors pack to clean that up? I'd be happier of they started this cleanup right now, before approval, domain creation, and import.
Incubator admin StevenJ81 conveyed this your comment to < https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incubator:Community_ Portal#Thanks_.28Wp.2Fkhw.29>. It seems like they are now trying to fix it. I will wait to create a bug report until that is solved.
בתאריך 26 בפבר׳ 2017 01:35 PM, "Milos Rancic" millosh@gmail.com כתב:
So, it's been approved after the first expert confirmed that the
written material is indeed in particular language. Do you want to proceed with the approval process? (I've marked it as approved on the page Requests for new languages.)
Also, may you prepare a couple of paragraphs about Khowar people, language and culture for the time when the wiki would be created to be sent on wikimedia-l and on blog.wikimedia.org?
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Satdeep Gill satdeepgill@gmail.com wrote:
Another linguist has confirmed that the language is indeed khowar.
Hence i
propose the creation of this project.
Regards Satdeep Gill
From: Henrik Liljegren henrik@ling.su.se Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 1:24:15 PM To: Satdeep Gill Subject: RE: Khowar Wikipedia analysis
Hi Satdeep,
It is indeed Khowar that is written in the sample page.
Best,
Henrik
From: Satdeep Gill [mailto:satdeepgill@gmail.com] Sent: 11 February 2017 02:39 To: Henrik Liljegren henrik@ling.su.se Subject: Khowar Wikipedia analysis
Hi Henrik,
Khowar Wikipedians have been trying to build a Wikipedia in Khowar
langauge.
The project, as of now, is at Incubator. Can you confirm if the
language
written in actually Khowar or something else ?
Here is a list to all the pages in this project:
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Wp/khw/
Or just have a look at this random page:
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/khw/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%81_%...
Hoping to hear soon from you. This will help people speaking Khowar to
have
a separate Wikipedia project.
--
Regards
Satdeep Gill
Language Committee
Wikimedia Foundation
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
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And Amir,
I have tried checking some article and they look okay to me. If you can send me some samples then I can approach Khowar Wikipedia Rachitrali https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Rachitrali to clean up such stuff.
Regards Satdeep Gill
Punjabi Wikimedians https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_Wikimedians Member, Affiliations Committee https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee Member, Language Committee https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_committee
On 3 March 2017 at 05:48, Satdeep Gill satdeepgill@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone. I have prepared a draft regarding Khowar language, people and culture:
Khowar is a Dardic language spoken by Kho people.The language is known by many other names such as Arniya, Chitrali, Kashkari, Patu. This SOV language is spoken by the Kho people in Chitral district, Ghizer district of Gilgit-Baltistan (including the Yasin Valley, Golaghmuli Valley, Phandar Ishkoman and Gupis), and in parts of Upper Swat. Khowar is spoken as a second language in the rest of Gilgit and Hunza. Dialects include North Khowar, South Khowar, East Khowar, and Swat Kwohar, with the North Khowar considered as the high variety. Kho people use Naskh and Nastaliq variants of the Arabic script to write Khowar.
The Kho people (Khowar: کھو, meaning "people"), also known as Chitralis (چترالي), are a Dardic ethnic group located primarily in South Asia. They are the predominant ethnic group in the Chitral region of Pakistan. It is estimated that their current population is approximately 300,000 people, most of whom live in Pakistan, with a small population living in Afghanistan. They are mostly Sunni and Ismaili Muslims.
Kho culture is an ancient culture which places heavy emphasis on poetry, song, and dance. Folk singers, sitar and reed instrument players are respected members of the community. Kho people also have a great respect for law and order. Much of this can be attributed to Chitral being a stable kingdom for most of its history, where the rule of law and the will of the ruler came before tribal concepts such as revenge and isolationism. The festivities are mostly related to agriculture, which reveals the significance of agriculture for the Kho people.
First efforts to build a Wikipedia in Khowar language started in 2010. User:Rachitrali also known as Rehmat Aziz Chitrali has been contributing to the project since then. Other Khowar speakers joined him and the incubator project consistently grew in the first 6 months of 2013. The community has now been consistently contributing since October 2014. Rachitrali https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/user:Rachitrali (5601 edits), Mirajbibi https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/user:Mirajbibi (3138 edits) and Zaheeruddin25 https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/user:Zaheeruddin25 (2956 edits) have been the top contributors. Besides them there are 19 more editors who made 100 or more contributions to the project.
-- Vito Genovese https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kullan%C4%B1c%C4%B1:Vito_Genovese, Satdeep Gill
Regards Satdeep Gill
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On 2 March 2017 at 02:06, MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com wrote:
2017-02-26 16:08 GMT+01:00 Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il :
I haven't checked very thoroughly, but it looks that the current content in the incubator is quite messy - there are a lot of ultra-short atticles about numbers, some pages in English, and some other problems. Do the authors pack to clean that up? I'd be happier of they started this cleanup right now, before approval, domain creation, and import.
Incubator admin StevenJ81 conveyed this your comment to < https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incubator:Community_Po rtal#Thanks_.28Wp.2Fkhw.29>. It seems like they are now trying to fix it. I will wait to create a bug report until that is solved.
בתאריך 26 בפבר׳ 2017 01:35 PM, "Milos Rancic" millosh@gmail.com כתב:
So, it's been approved after the first expert confirmed that the
written material is indeed in particular language. Do you want to proceed with the approval process? (I've marked it as approved on the page Requests for new languages.)
Also, may you prepare a couple of paragraphs about Khowar people, language and culture for the time when the wiki would be created to be sent on wikimedia-l and on blog.wikimedia.org?
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Satdeep Gill satdeepgill@gmail.com wrote:
Another linguist has confirmed that the language is indeed khowar.
Hence i
propose the creation of this project.
Regards Satdeep Gill
From: Henrik Liljegren henrik@ling.su.se Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 1:24:15 PM To: Satdeep Gill Subject: RE: Khowar Wikipedia analysis
Hi Satdeep,
It is indeed Khowar that is written in the sample page.
Best,
Henrik
From: Satdeep Gill [mailto:satdeepgill@gmail.com] Sent: 11 February 2017 02:39 To: Henrik Liljegren henrik@ling.su.se Subject: Khowar Wikipedia analysis
Hi Henrik,
Khowar Wikipedians have been trying to build a Wikipedia in Khowar
langauge.
The project, as of now, is at Incubator. Can you confirm if the
language
written in actually Khowar or something else ?
Here is a list to all the pages in this project:
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Wp/khw/
Or just have a look at this random page:
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/khw/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%81_%...
Hoping to hear soon from you. This will help people speaking Khowar
to have
a separate Wikipedia project.
--
Regards
Satdeep Gill
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On 3 Mar 2017, at 00:18, Satdeep Gill satdeepgill@gmail.com wrote:
Khowar is a Dardic language spoken by Kho people.
Knowar is an Indo-Aryan language of the Dardic family, spoken by Kho people.
Michael Everson
Thanks for pointing that out Michael. If everything is alright, I can share this draft with Eddie from the WMF and he can help us edit it and then post to the Blog by the time the project starts.
Regards Satdeep Gill
On 03-Mar-2017, at 7:53 AM, Michael Everson everson@evertype.com wrote:
On 3 Mar 2017, at 00:18, Satdeep Gill satdeepgill@gmail.com wrote:
Khowar is a Dardic language spoken by Kho people.
Knowar is an Indo-Aryan language of the Dardic family, spoken by Kho people.
Michael Everson
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What's the status of Khowar now?
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 9:03 AM, Satdeep Gill satdeepgill@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for pointing that out Michael. If everything is alright, I can share this draft with Eddie from the WMF and he can help us edit it and then post to the Blog by the time the project starts.
Regards Satdeep Gill
On 03-Mar-2017, at 7:53 AM, Michael Everson everson@evertype.com wrote:
On 3 Mar 2017, at 00:18, Satdeep Gill satdeepgill@gmail.com wrote:
Khowar is a Dardic language spoken by Kho people.
Knowar is an Indo-Aryan language of the Dardic family, spoken by Kho people.
Michael Everson
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