A native speaker has always been one of the considerations for making things eligible.

It is important to keep this because there should not be hope without native speakers.

but as mentioned before, a language under revitalization effort mught have hundred of thousands L2 speakers with hundreds of them willing to work on the Wikipedia but it is still possible for none of them to be native. 2017年1月30日 17:13 於 "Milos Rancic" <millosh(a)gmail.com> 寫道： _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom

Gerard, do you object eligible status for this Wikipedia? On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 8:15 AM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote: In New thing of have on under _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom

OK. Changing suggestion into "on hold" and extending discussion till February 13-14th. On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hoi, > I have heard that there might be a given number of L2 speakers. As stated is > not a convincing argument. I am willing to entertain the thought but it > needs to be more convincing. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 6 February 2017 at 12:00, Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Gerard, do you object eligible status for this Wikipedia? >> >> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 8:15 AM, Gerard Meijssen >> <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hoi, >> > I am quite happy when someone argue their case. I will certainly listen. >> > In >> > the past there were Americans who said to support languages from Papua >> > New >> > Guinea. Their arguments is why we ask for native speakers. The good >> > thing of >> > this policy is that we can do differently when the situation fits a >> > need. >> > Thanks, >> > GerardM >> > >> > On 31 January 2017 at 17:46, gfb hjjhjh <c933103(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> but as mentioned before, a language under revitalization effort mught >> >> have >> >> hundred of thousands L2 speakers with hundreds of them willing to work >> >> on >> >> the Wikipedia but it is still possible for none of them to be native. >> >> >> >> >> >> 2017年1月30日 17:13 於 "Milos Rancic" <millosh(a)gmail.com> 寫道： >> >>> >> >>> On Jan 30, 2017 4:20 AM, "gfb hjjhjh" <c933103(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> As discussed before, it would take a few decades before a language >> >>> under >> >>> revitalizing effort to gain a native speaker. >> >>> >> >>> The context of "having native speakers" is not existential, but having >> >>> them working on particular project. >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Langcom mailing list >> >>> Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Langcom mailing list >> >> Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Langcom mailing list >> > Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list >> Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > > > > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >