Does anyone have any experience doing Wikipedia/Wikinews outreach and training in remote areas? What sort of materials did you use in the classroom? How closely did you work with teachers in developing classroom related training?
Sincerely, Laura Hale
Does anyone have any experience doing Wikipedia/Wikinews outreach and training in remote areas? What sort of materials did you use in the classroom? How closely did you work with teachers in developing classroom related training?
Sincerely, Laura Hale
A bit of trying without generating much interest. Due to the tiny percentage of people who edit Wikipedia attempting to offer classes in a small community will probably generate little interest. My understanding is that meetups even in London or New York City draw considerably less than 100 people.
However, if you can draw a crowd, or even a few people, perhaps to edit articles about local communities and history, by all means, please go for it.
Fred
Yes, I do. The trick is to partner with some other organisation (the local library, community association, chamber of commerce, etc), and advertise well in advance. People are interested, you've just got to let them know that it's on, and get them through the door.
Of course, success in a small community is often "getting a dozen people", but if that's 10% of the town's population it can be better than filling an entire auditorium!
Cheers, Craig
On 18 October 2011 21:22, Fred Bauder fredbaud@fairpoint.net wrote:
Does anyone have any experience doing Wikipedia/Wikinews outreach and training in remote areas? What sort of materials did you use in the classroom? How closely did you work with teachers in developing classroom related training?
Sincerely, Laura Hale
A bit of trying without generating much interest. Due to the tiny percentage of people who edit Wikipedia attempting to offer classes in a small community will probably generate little interest. My understanding is that meetups even in London or New York City draw considerably less than 100 people.
However, if you can draw a crowd, or even a few people, perhaps to edit articles about local communities and history, by all means, please go for it.
Fred
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On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Fred Bauder fredbaud@fairpoint.netwrote:
However, if you can draw a crowd, or even a few people, perhaps to edit articles about local communities and history, by all means, please go for it.
This is a case where we found community college equivalents who will find teachers for us to work, where we will have set dates to go into their classrooms and work with students to assist them in learning about Wikipedia/wikiNews in a way that will help the instructor meet course learning objectives. We wouldn't go there with out that commitment. :) http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Outreach_Oceania has some of the details. As we've gotten the commitment from three schools, hence the next step of trying to design materials. If people had designed learning resources for in classroom training, I'd love to take advantage of them , as opposed to having to create materials from scratch. (And then possibly try to get them translated into Japanese at the very least. Local languages have very few speakers so attempting to find one to translate in advance would be difficult.)
Laura, by remote do you mean rural developed world or developing world?
For materials, http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 4:00 AM, Laura Hale laura@fanhistory.com wrote:
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On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:54 AM, James Salsman jsalsman@gmail.com wrote:
Laura, by remote do you mean rural developed world or developing world?
For materials, http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf
This would be developing, remote are. The Marshall Islands are one place we're going. Guam is probably the most developed place. (If we have the time and budget, Saipan might be there but no confirmation on that yet.) We're dealing with probably one or two computer labs at a college with additional computers in the libraries and no assumption that most students have computers at home. We're also probably dealing with English as a second language learners. (Though this is not always the case.) I think I've seen somewhere people discussing doing similar outreach related to "One Laptop Per Child" that might be applicable.
I see, I havent understood what the remote are is. So if it is about developing countries with low internet access and English as a second language. No, I dont have any experience with that. The major problem would be that internet access, but in the case there will be a motivation/interest in editing in local language you may offer computers to edit wikipedia offline.
Juandev
Dne 18. října 2011 21:37 Laura Hale laura@fanhistory.com napsal(a):
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:54 AM, James Salsman jsalsman@gmail.com wrote:
Laura, by remote do you mean rural developed world or developing world?
For materials, http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf
This would be developing, remote are. The Marshall Islands are one place we're going. Guam is probably the most developed place. (If we have the time and budget, Saipan might be there but no confirmation on that yet.) We're dealing with probably one or two computer labs at a college with additional computers in the libraries and no assumption that most students have computers at home. We're also probably dealing with English as a second language learners. (Though this is not always the case.) I think I've seen somewhere people discussing doing similar outreach related to "One Laptop Per Child" that might be applicable.
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I have find out that the major problem in the Czech republic is that most of the public education sector doesnt have an interest or motivation. This could be find out in some private schools. Once there we do teachers training. The importance of developing classroom realted training seems not to be important for the teachers now, but Reo would be able to say more about that.
I personaly dont think, there is a need of that - just working on the guidance to teachers telling them something is not possible and something could work.
Juandev
2011/10/19 Juan de Vojníkov juandevojnikov@gmail.com
I have find out that the major problem in the Czech republic is that most of the public education sector doesnt have an interest or motivation. This could be find out in some private schools. Once there we do teachers training. The importance of developing classroom realted training seems not to be important for the teachers now, but Reo would be able to say more about that.
There was a mention of outreach in the classroom. Have you created a page about this on either your chapter wiki, Outreach, Meta or Wikipedia? We're unlikely to be able to easily return and want to make sure that we have guides that they can keep and use for future reference when we leave, in addition to providing on wiki support and support through the chapter where a few members are coordinating this. That's why I have the desire to make sure we have something in print.
And then probably something on wikipedia. Anna has done a good job with creating http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Classroom_coordination/SF... terms of making sure classroom related editors get guidance, and something like that in print… *babbles*
I personaly dont think, there is a need of that - just working on the guidance to teachers telling them something is not possible and something could work.
That's kind of along the lines of what I was thinking: Wikipedia can be used in English to help with writing goals. Commons can be used for photograph for art related classes. Wikinews would be good for business, journalism, English, marketing… (so long as all edits are done with in the rule set of both wikis.)
Dne 18. října 2011 21:55 Laura Hale laura@fanhistory.com napsal(a):
2011/10/19 Juan de Vojníkov juandevojnikov@gmail.com
I have find out that the major problem in the Czech republic is that most of the public education sector doesnt have an interest or motivation. This could be find out in some private schools. Once there we do teachers training. The importance of developing classroom realted training seems not to be important for the teachers now, but Reo would be able to say more about that.
There was a mention of outreach in the classroom. Have you created a page about this on either your chapter wiki, Outreach, Meta or Wikipedia? We're unlikely to be able to easily return and want to make sure that we have guides that they can keep and use for future reference when we leave, in addition to providing on wiki support and support through the chapter where a few members are coordinating this. That's why I have the desire to make sure we have something in print.
Err, we have just page we previously reported. We also try to leave there feedbacks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects/ISP/Fe...
Reo On was following the Syllabus on Outreach wiki, but that one is for University - in this case we are on elementary/high school: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/The_Syllabus
And even there is now chapter in the appropriate region, you can still ask for the help other chapters of WMF.
And then probably something on wikipedia. Anna has done a good job with creating http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Classroom_coordination/SF... terms of making sure classroom related editors get guidance, and something like that in print... *babbles*
I personaly dont think, there is a need of that - just working on the guidance to teachers telling them something is not possible and something could work.
That's kind of along the lines of what I was thinking: Wikipedia can be used in English to help with writing goals. Commons can be used for photograph for art related classes. Wikinews would be good for business, journalism, English, marketing... (so long as all edits are done with in the rule set of both wikis.)
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2011/10/19 Juan de Vojníkov juandevojnikov@gmail.com
Err, we have just page we previously reported. We also try to leave there feedbacks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects/ISP/Fe...
Had not seen this link before. :) Thanks.
Reo On was following the Syllabus on Outreach wiki, but that one is for University - in this case we are on elementary/high school: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/The_Syllabus
Some of the links on there are ones I had not seen. Contextualised into lesson plans, they make things make more sense. Some stuff that may be useful in terms of ideas for writing something of my own, as I think I'm looking for something that can be put on library shelves.
And even there is now chapter in the appropriate region, you can still ask for the help other chapters of WMF.
No chapter. One country I think has a population of 110,000, with the largest population centre being 55,000. One of the places we are going there has a population of around 5,500 on the island. The other has a population of 68,000 with the capital having around 25,000 people. Not sure an independent chapter would be viable. We should have support from Wikimedia Australia, and we'll probably be looking for WMF support in the coming weeks. We just need a better grasp on our timelines and budget.
Dne 18. října 2011 22:17 Laura Hale laura@fanhistory.com napsal(a):
2011/10/19 Juan de Vojníkov juandevojnikov@gmail.com
Err, we have just page we previously reported. We also try to leave there feedbacks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects/ISP/Fe...
Had not seen this link before. :) Thanks.
Reo On was following the Syllabus on Outreach wiki, but that one is for University - in this case we are on elementary/high school: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/The_Syllabus
Some of the links on there are ones I had not seen. Contextualised into lesson plans, they make things make more sense. Some stuff that may be useful in terms of ideas for writing something of my own, as I think I'm looking for something that can be put on library shelves.
But anyway, if you will find out something in digital you would need printed do not hesitate to ask chapters and WMF to make it printed.
And even there is now chapter in the appropriate region, you can still ask for the help other chapters of WMF.
No chapter. One country I think has a population of 110,000, with the largest population centre being 55,000. One of the places we are going there has a population of around 5,500 on the island. The other has a population of 68,000 with the capital having around 25,000 people. Not sure an independent chapter would be viable. We should have support from Wikimedia Australia, and we'll probably be looking for WMF support in the coming weeks. We just need a better grasp on our timelines and budget.
Yep, as I heard last news from WMAU I know they dont have much what to do:-)
Juandev
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