A middle school has approached us to run a Wikipedia program for them. We
are considering training the students on how to effectively use Wikipedia
as well as hinting them on the ability to correct basic things such as
typos and grammar. We also intend to teach them how to play the Wikidata
Is our approach good? or what alternative activities we can have with the
Thanks in advance for your comments or suggestions.
*Open Foundation West Africa <https://openfoundationwestafrica.org/>*
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Dear Wikimedia & Education enthusiasts,
Here is what was shared for the month of August 2018 issue of the Education
Read news from:
And also, learn from the Education activities mapping by the Education Team
Community Capacity Manager, Wikipedia Education Program
Dear Wikimedia & Education Community,
The Education Team at the Wikimedia Foundation is happy to launch a new
“Office Hours” initiative! The Education Team will be holding at least 2
office hours per month. The goal is to have dedicated "real time"
conversations about your questions, and first hand accounts of your
activities. Having set times for this type of interaction will make sure
that everyone has a fair chance to receive real time support. We will make
sure to schedule for different time zones so that everyone has a chance to
Please bring topics you want to discuss, ask, or share about! It will be an
opportunity to have a conversation about them with the Education Team, and
also with those that participate in the meeting.
We will be using Google Meet to host the meeting, so please make sure you
have it installed before the meeting starts. You can download it from:
For the month of August, the meetings are set as follows:
August 30, 16:00 UTC (probably most practical for participants from the
Americas, Europe and Africa)
Meet Link: https://meet.google.com/dsu-dhaz-ezm
August 31, 13:00 UTC (probably most practical for participants in Asia
Meet link: https://meet.google.com/ioq-msev-eny
If you have any questions, please address them to education(a)wikimedia.org
or reply to this message. We look forward to speaking with you at office
Community Capacity Manager, Wikipedia Education Program
The Wikipedia & Education User Group is choosing its first board!
The elected board members will be guiding the Wikipedia & Education User
Group, making key decisions and leading the user group.
The election process will run between August 28 and will end with an
announcement of the new board October 6, according to the timeline below:
* Self-nomination period: 28 August 2018 — 14 September 2018 (Midnight UTC)
* Vetting period: 15 September 2018
* Voting period: 16 September 2018 — 30 September 2018
* Results by: 06 October 2018
Follow the link
to see the instructions and nominate yourself or suggest someone else as a
nominee (after getting their consent, of course).
Please help us spread the word and share widely. :)
Good luck to everyone!
Shani Evenstein (on behalf of the founding members).
Event Tool (working title) is a Wikimedia Foundation project designed to help organizers of editathons and similar events by making the process of creating and running events easier and more efficient. Better event metrics is a focus of the project, and we’re planning the metrics features now. We need to hear from event organizers: What data and reporting features do you need?
There’s a post on the project talk page that asks a series of questions designed to guide the discussion . If you’re an event organizer, please come and help us help you. We’re listening!
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Tech/Tools_for_program_and_e… <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Tech/Tools_for_program_and_e…>
Product Manager, Community Tech
Now that the Wikipedia & Education User Group has been officially approved
and Wikimania is over, it's time to jump-start our activity and start
working together again. Exciting, I know! :)
To do that, we'd like have an online meeting, where we will share updates
and will determine our next steps as a user group, the first of which would
be to start an election process to choose a board for our user group.
*Here's a link to a doodle <https://doodle.com/poll/zb5q8ph4zstv9u3b> which
will help us determine a time for a meeting.* As we are an international
crowd, an effort was made to include time slots that might work for
different places in the world simultaneously. You should be seeing this in
your own time zone.
Please vote on the best dates & times for you* by next Wednesday, August 15
at midnight (whenever that is :)). *A final date will be announced on
Thursday, August 16.
Who is invited to participate in the meeting?
Anyone who's doing work around Wikipedia & Education is invited, no matter
where they are from, or from which group or chapter. As long as
participants are polite, friendly and ready to work with others, they are
we have to change the venue
Meeting URL: https://meet.google.com/obg-fvoh-pyp
Phone: +1 402-369-5229 PIN: 266 200 001#
Meet supports 50 participa
On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 9:11 PM Shani Evenstein <shani.even(a)gmail.com>
> Abel, we begin in 20 min.
> please use this link -
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 7:40 PM, Abel L MBULA <news.abel(a)protonmail.com>
>> I am the only one there!
>> Abel Lifaefi Mbula
>> Free Software Dev
>> Free Culture Enthusiast
>> Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send
>> OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/
>> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> On August 17, 2018 6:36 PM, Shani Evenstein <shani.even(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hello all,
>> > Please use this link to the hangout --
>> > https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/dpogce2jwvdnvdvkc4rxx4sm2ue
>> > Thanks,
>> > Shani.
>> > On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:49 PM, Shani Evenstein shani.even(a)gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>> > > Dear all,
>> > > The Wikipedia & Education User Group meeting has been set to Friday,
>> > > August 17th (tomorrow!), between 17:00-19:00 UTC,which was the date
>> and time most participants of the doodle chose.
>> > > Here's a link to the hangout - https://hangouts.google.com/h…/_/
>> > > exlj3u7z6navdimipdufd63wfue
>> > > https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/exlj3u7z6navdimipdufd63wfue
>> > > See you tomorrow!
>> > > Shani.
>> > > On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 2:08 AM, Shani Evenstein shani.even(a)gmail.com
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Dear all,
>> > > > Now that the Wikipedia & Education User Group has been officially
>> > > > approved and Wikimania is over, it's time to jump-start our
>> activity and
>> > > > start working together again. Exciting, I know! :)
>> > > > To do that, we'd like have an online meeting, where we will share
>> > > > and will determine our next steps as a user group, the first of
>> which would
>> > > > be to start an election process to choose a board for our user
>> > > > Here's a link to a doodle
>> > > > https://doodle.com/poll/zb5q8ph4zstv9u3b which will help us
>> determine a
>> > > > time for a meeting. As we are an international crowd, an effort
>> wasmade to include time slots that might work for different places in the
>> > > > world simultaneously. You should be seeing this in your own time
>> > > > Please vote on the best dates & times for you* by next Wednesday,
>> > > > 15 at midnight (whenever that is :)). *A final date will be
>> announced on
>> > > > Thursday, August 16.
>> > > > Who is invited to participate in the meeting?
>> > > > Anyone who's doing work around Wikipedia & Education is invited, no
>> > > > matter where they are from, or from which group or chapter. As long
>> > > > participants are polite, friendly and ready to work with others,
>> they are
>> > > > welcome!
>> > > > Best,
>> > > > Shani.
>> > Education mailing list
>> > Education(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
>> Education mailing list
> education-collab mailing list
Le 10/08/2018 à 16:26, Ziko van Dijk a écrit :
> I allow myself to add (I am not quite neutral, as related to Klexikon) that
> the children encyclopedias have an important advantage: you can reach
> institutions and audiecnes you usually not reach with Wikipedia.
> In general, I can imagine that this user group (as many „evangelists“)
> often starts with Wikipedia as a topci, because WP simply is the most known
> wiki, and occasionally regards other wikis as it fits. For example, I know
> that some initiatives focus on Wiktionary because Wiktionary entries are
> shorter and „easier“ to create than Wikipedia articles.
> Kind regards,
This may be the opportunity to tell about the differences between
Klexikon and Vikidia, since you (Ziko) often defined Klexikon in
relation (indeed "by contrast") with other projects. And so to present a
bit further these projects.
I will use excerpts of the Klexikon presentation on meta:
> When Michael Schulte and Ziko van Dijk did research on these wikis in
> 2014, they noted some issues with these wikis. The articles often
> lacked textual quality: they consisted of loose sentences one after
> the other, for example. Many articles seem were not much easier to
> read and understand than Wikipedia articles. Some content seemed to be
> not really child friendly.
Actually, complaint about Vikidia articles "beeing not really child
friendly" are very rare, since every regular editor, whatever his age
have this objective in mind.
It's right that the quality, length of the articles is quite diverse,
just as on Wikipedia, however children often ask for substantial
content. The fact that some articles may be too difficult for the age
range we aim at is a real question we have in mind.
> The main problem was that these wikis imitated too much the concepts
> of Wikipedia: new contributors can simply give themselve an account.
> It is easy to vandalize.
...and children and teenagers are the most active in fixing vandalism,
which is after all easier than writing. It doesn't take much adult's time.
> Can children write a children's encyclopedia?
> Another observation was that many of these wikis want to have children
> as writers. Maybe this stems from the popular idea that children know
> best what other children like. Many people also find it 'cute' that
> children help other people by writing content. Some founders of these
> wikis for children are teachers and wanted a platform to use in the
> class room.
> The founders of the Klexikon became very sceptical about children
> authors. In general, think of books or TV shows for children: they all
> are not written or produced by children but by adults. You need a lot
> of skills to write good texts; good writers have learned these skills
> over a large span of time.
> There were some experiments with children writing texts for the
> Klexikon, both online and in class rooms. It showed that the texts
> written by the children were very remote from the qualily necessary
> for an online encyclopedia. The texts needed to be rewritten,
> essentially from scratch.
Very few children (and teenagers) write on Vikidia compared to the
number of readers. They often are involved for years (10 to 15 yo ; 12
to 20 yo, 14 to 24 yo...), which mean that they do have these "large
spans of time" to get skilled as writers. I mean, they may learn already
pretty good skills in 3 to 6 month of editing.
Moreover, we develop this point on :
Among other ideas, I may quote this one : "when a child starts an
article, be it insufficient, he takes the subject seriously. When an
adult that will correct and expand it may therefore be prevented to
write in an infantilizating style. " However, some 15yo, 12yo or younger
editor may produce very valuable content.
> What is the focus of the Klexikon?
> The Klexikon concept is actually minimalist. Klexikon articles
> - contain no footnotes. If Klexikon writers disagree about a fact or
> statement, they simply look it up in (German) Wikipedia. If someone
> thinks that Wikipedia wrong, he or she has to change it on Wikipedia
Well, on citing sources, the Vikidia practice is far less strict as on
Wikipedia, however we promote it and there is a notable pressure (and
debate) to require sources, be it for verifiability or for an
educational purpose: to let readers know that the informations come from
somewhere and that they may have in mind to check it at least sometimes.
Interestingly, school projects on Vikidia, often led by
teacher-librarian in middle schools, produce articles which cite sources
more often that usual.
> How are Klexikon articles created?
> On Wikipedia, the article creation process is rather messy. Anyone can
> create an article immediately. But it is also part of the reality that
> anyone can contest that article and nominate it for deletion. Articles
> are deleted if their subject is not notable or if they are very poorly
> Discussions about deletions are the cause of stress and hostility on
> Wikipedia. The radical openness of Wikipedia allows people to invest a
> lot of time in a text, and only afterwards they are told that the
> article has no reason to exist.
> In Klexikon, the process is different. There is a list of articles
> that are welcome, and a draft name space. The list contains all
> possible articles, with existing articles in blue and desired articles
> in red (red links mean, as in Wikipedia, that the linked page does not
> exist yet).
Indeed on Vikidia we create articles on the Wikipedia way, this mean we
do have article on minor subjects such as the small town on editor lives
in, and sometimes some subject you wouldn't have think about get many
readers, which was typically the case with "Vitesse des animaux"
Moreover, the differences is that decisions and administrators
appointment are also done in the Wikipedia way, with users having their
voice whatever age they are. Young users seem to like it very much and
to be very attached to this way. It goes obviously in the footsteps of
the democratic schools/democratic education.
Klexikon an Vikidia took two quite different ways, I don't have enough
matter to compare, say the quality of articles and how they fit to their
reader, yet I guess both reach some achievements!
> Mathias Damour <mathias.damour(a)gmx.fr> schrieb am Do. 9. Aug. 2018 um 23:02:
>> By the way you may also think about like-minded wikis, however outside
>> Wikimedia, which are aimed for children and teenagers.
>> I mean Wikikids in Dutch, Vikidia in French, Spanish, Italian, English,
>> and Klexikon in German (the later being less oriented toward children
>> and pupils participation).
>> I think that these "Wikipedias for children" are especially relevant for
>> education projects when the Wikipedia version in your language is very
>> developed, which not only means few available subjects to work on but
>> also long and too high level articles for children and younger peoples,
>> which in turn implies a lack of a well-suited encyclopedic resource for
>> I guess it is also relevant if you think that education does not only
>> aim at higher education students !
>> I noticed this tweet:
>> "Would be very cool if @Wikipedia had official support for different age
>> ranges. Such tremendous effort is expended to include different
>> languages / cultures / topics, but nearly all of it remains inaccessible
>> to the 25% of the world population under 14"
>> We may elaborate why the Wikimedia movement missed to support and
>> develop a children-oriented encyclopedic wiki, and still elude this
>> idea. I may have some ideas on the topic, yet it is still a mystery to
>> me. However it does exist and is doing well!
>> Well, come and get involved in Vikidia in Spanish, English, Italian and
>> so on ! ;-)
>> Le 09/08/2018 à 11:21, Shani Evenstein a écrit :
>>> Yes, the brand is what guided the founding members of the group when
>>> choosing the name, especially thinking about global outreach; but we are
>>> certainly looking at all Wikimedia projects.