Dear Wikimedia & Education community,
The education team is hosting office hours today at 14:00 UTC. We plan to
talk about these items:
- How to talk about Wikimedia in Education
- Resources we have or are planning to have for your work
- Education team updates
- Any other topics you want to discuss
For more information:
- Etherpad link:
https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/EdTeam_OfficeHours_6.25.2019
- Meet link: https://meet.google.com/wfq-qiyh-pdg
Looking forward to seeing you all in the coming office hours, for any other
queries feel free to reach out to spatnaik(a)wikimedia.org
Thanks!
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*Nichole Saad*
Wikimedia Foundation | Senior Program Manager, Education
nsaad(a)wikimedia.org
user: NSaad (WMF)
Hello everyone,
Today, the Wikimedia Foundation's Community Engagement department is
launching Wikimedia Space <https://space.wmflabs.org>, a platform for
movement <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement> organizers,
affiliates, contributors, partners, and the Foundation to share news,
questions, and conversations.
Learning from others has been the bedrock for development and growth in our
movement. With this platform, we want to promote these sorts of enriching
exchanges by welcoming people from every background to build strong and
diverse communities, breaking down the barriers for entry to our movement,
and focusing our efforts on facilitating collaboration, including from
communities that are new to our movement.
Wikimedia Space is a single place for collaboration, comprising Blog
<https://space.wmflabs.org/> and Discuss
<https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/> hubs. The Blog section provides a
movement-wide platform for project updates, recent events, and shared
learnings. We have designed editorial guidelines that allow everyone to
share their news with others. Wikimedia Space also allows anybody to add an
event, which can be discovered in a calendar
<https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/c/events/l/calendar> or a map
<https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/c/events/l/map> of the movement. We want
this new space to be safe and welcoming, especially for newcomers, and this
is why it is governed by a code of conduct
<https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/guidelines>, and relies on active
community moderation.
Wikimedia Space is currently a prototype, built on WordPress
<https://wordpress.org/> and Discourse <https://discourse.org/>. While at
present it only operates in English, it will evolve to include multiple
languages in the near future. This project is only possible with your
participation. Spread the news and join Wikimedia Space
<https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/t/how-to-join-wikimedia-space/113>!
Read more about the features you’ll find on our blog post. We have also
published posts on how to make this space yours, so it can best serve your
needs. You can find all the documentation for this project on its page on
Meta.
See you at Wikimedia Space!
*María Cruz * \\ Communications and Outreach Manager, Community Engagement
\\ Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
mcruz(a)wikimedia.org | Twitter: @marianarra_
<https://twitter.com/marianarra_>
Hello Plyd,
This concerns has been debated with the legal team at the WMF and are unfounded. First of all, now we have underage editors on Wikipedia, and their data is safe: you don't need to give your e-mail to make an account and even if you give it, you CAN'T have an e-mail account on most platforms if you are under 13 years old. Children with an e-mail account MUST have their parents supervision or a family account, so in the very remote case that someone writes you a message from Wikipedia, it should be handled by their family.
On the other hand, children and adults are also mixed now on Vikidia. Basque Vikidia was written only by adults, for example. Now, with Txikipedia, adults and children are writting it together with zero problems, and lot of confidence.
You also mention that there are legal concerns for contributing to a wiki if you are under 13 years old... well, as far as we know, and the legal team has said... there aren't. As we are not asking for personal data to contribute to Wikimedia, we have now people under 13 years old contributing, and it will continue happening as long as we don't forbid it asking for birth data certificates.
The problem arises in the first sentence of this e-mail: "Most of you must know Vikidia,". Well, most of us maybe (and not very sure of that) but most of the readers definitively not. Wikipedia is the most consulted Encyclopedia by children, so we have to face how to give this children content suitable for them, because "Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge." Bolds are mine, cursives not. Children are also human, and our goal is giving knowledge to every human, so we must provide knowledge to children.
I defend abundancy. Having Vikidia and Txikipedia is better than having only Vikidia or Txikipedia and is definitively better than anything. But we can start thinking out of the box. Basque Vikidia wasn't a known project, even by educators; Txikipedia is. We had more than 59.000 visits last year to Txikipedia articles, and this is a lot for a minority language. Txikipedia main page is every day one of the ten most visited pages in Basque. And we are just starting. We can imagine a future where we provide knowledge for different ages and abilities within the same platform. We are doing it, and you can also do it.
thanks
Galder
________________________________
From: Plyd <wiki.vincent(a)amplyd.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 3:59 PM
To: Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Cc: education(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Vikidia opening in Japanese and Portugese
Hello Galder,
Txikipedia tab way may work on small communities, but it poses several problems to larger communities, where children contributors are melted with adults from wikipedia and not taken care of properly, and they don't feel like it's "their wiki". Also, Txikipedia tab lacks children protection (for example you can send a private email to a child on Txikipedia...). Finally there are legal concerns about children <13y-old contributions on a US-based wiki without their explicit parent authorization (USA have a very specific way of handling it).
I think a better way of handling it would be to integrate better Vikidia and Wikipedia, but keeping them separated. Nothing prevents adding a tab on Vikidia and Wikipedia neither going further. I think the question is similar to integrate Wiktionary on Wikipedia.
Also, we are working to improve the design of Vikidia. Txikipedia have shown us that we can do something really handsome :)
Best, Plyd
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 3:24 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <galder158(a)hotmail.com<mailto:galder158@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Great news!
Basque Wikipedia has a better (as statistics show) approach to this with Txikipedia (https://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Txikipedia:Azala), creating articles INSIDE Wikipedia. Children now can read the full article or the children version of the article.
I would suggest other languages to have this tab system, the results are great!
Sincerely
Galder
________________________________
From: Education <education-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:education-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org>> on behalf of Houcemeddine A. Turki <turkiabdelwaheb(a)hotmail.fr<mailto:turkiabdelwaheb@hotmail.fr>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 2:55 PM
To: Plyd; education(a)lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:education@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Vikidia opening in Japanese and Portugese
Dear Mr.,
I thank you for your answer. I ask if you are interesting in launching an Arabic edition of Vikidia.
Yours Sincerely,
Houcemeddine Turki (he/him)
Medical Student, Faculty of Medicine of Sfax, University of Sfax, Tunisia
Undergraduate Researcher, UR12SP36
GLAM and Education Coordinator, Wikimedia TN User Group
Member, WikiResearch Tunisia
Member, Wiki Project Med
Member, WikiIndaba Steering Committee
Member, Wikimedia and Library User Group Steering Committee
Co-Founder, WikiLingua Maghreb
Founder, TunSci
____________________
+21629499418
-------- Message d'origine --------
De : Plyd <wiki.vincent(a)amplyd.com<mailto:wiki.vincent@amplyd.com>>
Date : 2019/06/19 13:06 (GMT+01:00)
À : education(a)lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:education@lists.wikimedia.org>
Objet : [Wikimedia Education] Vikidia opening in Japanese and Portugese
Dear Education community,
Most of you must know Vikidia, the children encyclopedia since we sometimes
send messages here (in a few words, it works like Wikipedia, but with a few
adaptations to be suitable for children).
The 8-13 y-old encyclopedia grows fast in French, Spanish and Italian, a
bit less in English with the competition of simple. We regularly open new
languages when we have a group of contributors motivated.
Currently we have a group in Japanese and Portuguese. Do you have contacts
of persons interested for the start? or contacts who may know future
contributors?
Great thanks for any tip
Best, Plyd
https://www.vikidia.org
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Hey everyone,
We have education office hours scheduled for today at 14:00 UTC. The
agendas for today's meeting are:
- How to talk about Wikimedia in Education - Resources we have or
planning to have for your work.
- Education team updates
For more information:
- Etherpad link:
https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/EdTeam_OfficeHours_6.25.2019
- Meet link: https://meet.google.com/wfq-qiyh-pdg
Looking forward to seeing you all in the coming office hours, for any other
queries feel free to reach out to me.
Dhanyabaad!
--
*Sailesh Patnaik*
Communications and Wikimedia Outreach Contractor
Dear Mr.,
I thank you for your efforts. For what I saw, the Basque Vikidia articles just reproduce the brief leads of the Wikipedia articles. The advantage of this method is that we can automatically get a considerable number of Vikidia articles in a small period of time. The drawback of this method is that Vikidia articles are slightly supported by references. What I propose here is to create a children-friendly Wikipedia app entitled Wikikids where only leads of articles are represented and enriched with references from Wikidata. The app can automatically generate leads of Wikipedia articles using Reasonator.
Yours Sincerely,
Houcemeddine Turki (he/him)
Medical Student, Faculty of Medicine of Sfax, University of Sfax, Tunisia
Undergraduate Researcher, UR12SP36
GLAM and Education Coordinator, Wikimedia TN User Group
Member, WikiResearch Tunisia
Member, Wiki Project Med
Member, WikiIndaba Steering Committee
Member, Wikimedia and Library User Group Steering Committee
Co-Founder, WikiLingua Maghreb
Founder, TunSci
____________________
+21629499418
-------- Message d'origine --------
De : Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <galder158(a)hotmail.com>
Date : 2019/06/19 14:23 (GMT+01:00)
À : Plyd <wiki.vincent(a)amplyd.com>, education(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Objet : Re: [Wikimedia Education] Vikidia opening in Japanese and Portugese
Great news!
Basque Wikipedia has a better (as statistics show) approach to this with Txikipedia (https://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Txikipedia:Azala), creating articles INSIDE Wikipedia. Children now can read the full article or the children version of the article.
I would suggest other languages to have this tab system, the results are great!
Sincerely
Galder
________________________________
From: Education <education-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of Houcemeddine A. Turki <turkiabdelwaheb(a)hotmail.fr>
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 2:55 PM
To: Plyd; education(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Vikidia opening in Japanese and Portugese
Dear Mr.,
I thank you for your answer. I ask if you are interesting in launching an Arabic edition of Vikidia.
Yours Sincerely,
Houcemeddine Turki (he/him)
Medical Student, Faculty of Medicine of Sfax, University of Sfax, Tunisia
Undergraduate Researcher, UR12SP36
GLAM and Education Coordinator, Wikimedia TN User Group
Member, WikiResearch Tunisia
Member, Wiki Project Med
Member, WikiIndaba Steering Committee
Member, Wikimedia and Library User Group Steering Committee
Co-Founder, WikiLingua Maghreb
Founder, TunSci
____________________
+21629499418
-------- Message d'origine --------
De : Plyd <wiki.vincent(a)amplyd.com>
Date : 2019/06/19 13:06 (GMT+01:00)
À : education(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Objet : [Wikimedia Education] Vikidia opening in Japanese and Portugese
Dear Education community,
Most of you must know Vikidia, the children encyclopedia since we sometimes
send messages here (in a few words, it works like Wikipedia, but with a few
adaptations to be suitable for children).
The 8-13 y-old encyclopedia grows fast in French, Spanish and Italian, a
bit less in English with the competition of simple. We regularly open new
languages when we have a group of contributors motivated.
Currently we have a group in Japanese and Portuguese. Do you have contacts
of persons interested for the start? or contacts who may know future
contributors?
Great thanks for any tip
Best, Plyd
https://www.vikidia.org
_______________________________________________
Education mailing list
Education(a)lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
_______________________________________________
Education mailing list
Education(a)lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
_______________________________________________
Education mailing list
Education(a)lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
Dear Mr.,
I thank you for your answer. I ask if you are interesting in launching an Arabic edition of Vikidia.
Yours Sincerely,
Houcemeddine Turki (he/him)
Medical Student, Faculty of Medicine of Sfax, University of Sfax, Tunisia
Undergraduate Researcher, UR12SP36
GLAM and Education Coordinator, Wikimedia TN User Group
Member, WikiResearch Tunisia
Member, Wiki Project Med
Member, WikiIndaba Steering Committee
Member, Wikimedia and Library User Group Steering Committee
Co-Founder, WikiLingua Maghreb
Founder, TunSci
____________________
+21629499418
-------- Message d'origine --------
De : Plyd <wiki.vincent(a)amplyd.com>
Date : 2019/06/19 13:06 (GMT+01:00)
À : education(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Objet : [Wikimedia Education] Vikidia opening in Japanese and Portugese
Dear Education community,
Most of you must know Vikidia, the children encyclopedia since we sometimes
send messages here (in a few words, it works like Wikipedia, but with a few
adaptations to be suitable for children).
The 8-13 y-old encyclopedia grows fast in French, Spanish and Italian, a
bit less in English with the competition of simple. We regularly open new
languages when we have a group of contributors motivated.
Currently we have a group in Japanese and Portuguese. Do you have contacts
of persons interested for the start? or contacts who may know future
contributors?
Great thanks for any tip
Best, Plyd
https://www.vikidia.org
_______________________________________________
Education mailing list
Education(a)lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
Dear Mr.,
I thank you for your efforts. When I participates to WikiArabia five years ago, I met six people who are interested in Vikidia. I will contact them if you like that.
Yours Sincerely,
Houcemeddine Turki (he/him)
Medical Student, Faculty of Medicine of Sfax, University of Sfax, Tunisia
Undergraduate Researcher, UR12SP36
GLAM and Education Coordinator, Wikimedia TN User Group
Member, WikiResearch Tunisia
Member, Wiki Project Med
Member, WikiIndaba Steering Committee
Member, Wikimedia and Library User Group Steering Committee
Co-Founder, WikiLingua Maghreb
Founder, TunSci
____________________
+21629499418
-------- Message d'origine --------
De : Plyd <wiki.vincent(a)amplyd.com>
Date : 2019/06/19 14:06 (GMT+01:00)
À : "Houcemeddine A. Turki" <turkiabdelwaheb(a)hotmail.fr>
Cc : education(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Objet : Re: RE : [Wikimedia Education] Vikidia opening in Japanese and Portugese
Hello Houcemeddine,
Thank you for your interest!
By the past, we received some requests about an Arabic edition, but there were too few contributors.
There could be enough now. We request a few motivated contributors to open the language (5 to 10 maybe?). Do you know other contributors?
Plyd
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 2:55 PM Houcemeddine A. Turki <turkiabdelwaheb(a)hotmail.fr<mailto:turkiabdelwaheb@hotmail.fr>> wrote:
Dear Mr.,
I thank you for your answer. I ask if you are interesting in launching an Arabic edition of Vikidia.
Yours Sincerely,
Houcemeddine Turki (he/him)
Medical Student, Faculty of Medicine of Sfax, University of Sfax, Tunisia
Undergraduate Researcher, UR12SP36
GLAM and Education Coordinator, Wikimedia TN User Group
Member, WikiResearch Tunisia
Member, Wiki Project Med
Member, WikiIndaba Steering Committee
Member, Wikimedia and Library User Group Steering Committee
Co-Founder, WikiLingua Maghreb
Founder, TunSci
____________________
+21629499418
-------- Message d'origine --------
De : Plyd <wiki.vincent(a)amplyd.com<mailto:wiki.vincent@amplyd.com>>
Date : 2019/06/19 13:06 (GMT+01:00)
À : education(a)lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:education@lists.wikimedia.org>
Objet : [Wikimedia Education] Vikidia opening in Japanese and Portugese
Dear Education community,
Most of you must know Vikidia, the children encyclopedia since we sometimes
send messages here (in a few words, it works like Wikipedia, but with a few
adaptations to be suitable for children).
The 8-13 y-old encyclopedia grows fast in French, Spanish and Italian, a
bit less in English with the competition of simple. We regularly open new
languages when we have a group of contributors motivated.
Currently we have a group in Japanese and Portuguese. Do you have contacts
of persons interested for the start? or contacts who may know future
contributors?
Great thanks for any tip
Best, Plyd
https://www.vikidia.org
_______________________________________________
Education mailing list
Education(a)lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:Education@lists.wikimedia.org>
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
Dear Education community,
Most of you must know Vikidia, the children encyclopedia since we sometimes
send messages here (in a few words, it works like Wikipedia, but with a few
adaptations to be suitable for children).
The 8-13 y-old encyclopedia grows fast in French, Spanish and Italian, a
bit less in English with the competition of simple. We regularly open new
languages when we have a group of contributors motivated.
Currently we have a group in Japanese and Portuguese. Do you have contacts
of persons interested for the start? or contacts who may know future
contributors?
Great thanks for any tip
Best, Plyd
https://www.vikidia.org
Hey everyone,
We have education office hours scheduled for today at 13:30 UTC. The
agendas for today's meeting are:
- Meet Vasanthi
- Best practices on how to write an education newsletter
- How to talk about Wikimedia in Education - Resources we have or
planning to have for your work.
- Any other topic you want to add or share.
For more information:
- Etherpad link:
https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/EdTeam_OfficeHours_6.19.2019
- Meet link: https://meet.google.com/wfq-qiyh-pdg
Looking forward to seeing you all in the coming office hours, for any other
queries feel free to reach out to me.
Dhanyabaad!
--
*Sailesh Patnaik*
Communications and Wikimedia Outreach Contractor
