---------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ---------- Von: "Nicole Ebber" nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de Datum: 17.10.2013 18:08 Betreff: Re: [cultural-partners] edit-a-thon/workshop 'getting started' handout? An: "Wikimedia Chapters cultural partners coordination - closed list" < cultural-partners@wikimedia.ch>
Not sure if it was already linked here, but we have created a short "cheat sheet" which shows the most important wiki syntax.
http://wikimedia.de/images/3/30/Spickzettel-englisch-web.pdf
Cheers, Nicole
On 17 October 2013 14:54, Jonathan Cardy jonathan.cardy@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
I have been involved in running groups with over twenty people. Both as host and as assistant. Lesson one, dont handle that many alone, ideally
you
need someone who can sort out IT issues and complex queries - so you keep the group running whilst the person whose article was deleted last year
gets
one to one.
I prefer editathon format with several tables and an experienced editor
on
each. But that does require a lot of regulars - easy in London, not elsewhere.
Provided you pick subjects that are notable but obscure and you start
with a
reliable source then my experience is that touch wood you get more
technical
problems than community ones.
Having one more spare laptop than was requested is also a good idea.
Ideally
a universal charger as well, often as not someone will forget their charger. The UK chapter has 3 laptops for just this reason.
As for visual editor, best to steer people well away from it, especially
if
you have a group with mixed IT such asbring your own laptops. You can be sure that some of those laptops will be a couple of years old and just too slow when running Visual editor.
Jonathan
On 17 Oct 2013 09:49, "Hay (Husky)" huskyr@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, great to see all these pointers to learning resources. Very useful.
Does anyone have any experience about using the new Visual Editor instead of the good old Wiki editor?
And another thing: does anyone have experiences with large groups (say 20 people)? Is it better to do some small exercises at the same time with the whole group, or is it better to give assignments and walk around?
Contributing some of my own experiences: i agree with Bob that the 'social' lessons are more important than the 'technical' ones. However, i've never run a workshop where there wasn't some kind of kerfuffle with experienced editors on WP, and you can definitely use that to your advantage to show how Wikipedia 'really' works.
Also, it's important to let people create accounts *beforehand* because you're going to run into the 5-per-ip account creation rule, you could pass that if you're an admin, but if you're not it can be quite a feat to get everyone an account.
-- Hay
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:25 AM, John Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Phoebe,
Wikimedia Australia has been using the following as a short intro and primer for training workshop participants to help them set up an account
before
the training workshop.
http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/File:Creating_an_Account.pdf
It was designed by user:Bilby / Adam Jenkins especially for printing as a one page two-sided folded pamphlet.
-- John
On Oct 16, 2013 9:39 AM, "phoebe ayers" phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
Does anyone have an example of a "here's how to get started" handout for brand-new editors at an editing workshop?
I'm thinking along the lines of a 1 page document... step 1, create an account; step 2, add a userpage, step 3, try a copyediting task...
etc.
I've found this guide... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/BeginnersGuide
But am wondering if there are any other examples, or anyone's made a printable/shorter version. I'm sure I've seen something like this, but can't find it!
Thanks, -- Phoebe
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Thanks Rupert,
Just checked to see it's the same thing. Have 4 hard copies of that cheat sheet. Sandi. brought them home from Hong Kong. I will be using them next week Saturday for some intro.
And the other tips. It's great.
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On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:46 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thurner@gmail.comwrote:
---------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ---------- Von: "Nicole Ebber" nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de Datum: 17.10.2013 18:08
Betreff: Re: [cultural-partners] edit-a-thon/workshop 'getting started' handout? An: "Wikimedia Chapters cultural partners coordination - closed list" < cultural-partners@wikimedia.ch>
Not sure if it was already linked here, but we have created a short "cheat sheet" which shows the most important wiki syntax.
http://wikimedia.de/images/3/30/Spickzettel-englisch-web.pdf
Cheers, Nicole
On 17 October 2013 14:54, Jonathan Cardy jonathan.cardy@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
I have been involved in running groups with over twenty people. Both as host and as assistant. Lesson one, dont handle that many alone, ideally
you
need someone who can sort out IT issues and complex queries - so you keep the group running whilst the person whose article was deleted last year
gets
one to one.
I prefer editathon format with several tables and an experienced editor
on
each. But that does require a lot of regulars - easy in London, not elsewhere.
Provided you pick subjects that are notable but obscure and you start
with a
reliable source then my experience is that touch wood you get more
technical
problems than community ones.
Having one more spare laptop than was requested is also a good idea.
Ideally
a universal charger as well, often as not someone will forget their charger. The UK chapter has 3 laptops for just this reason.
As for visual editor, best to steer people well away from it, especially
if
you have a group with mixed IT such asbring your own laptops. You can be sure that some of those laptops will be a couple of years old and just
too
slow when running Visual editor.
Jonathan
On 17 Oct 2013 09:49, "Hay (Husky)" huskyr@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, great to see all these pointers to learning resources. Very useful.
Does anyone have any experience about using the new Visual Editor instead of the good old Wiki editor?
And another thing: does anyone have experiences with large groups (say 20 people)? Is it better to do some small exercises at the same time with the whole group, or is it better to give assignments and walk around?
Contributing some of my own experiences: i agree with Bob that the 'social' lessons are more important than the 'technical' ones. However, i've never run a workshop where there wasn't some kind of kerfuffle with experienced editors on WP, and you can definitely use that to your advantage to show how Wikipedia 'really' works.
Also, it's important to let people create accounts *beforehand* because you're going to run into the 5-per-ip account creation rule, you could pass that if you're an admin, but if you're not it can be quite a feat to get everyone an account.
-- Hay
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:25 AM, John Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Phoebe,
Wikimedia Australia has been using the following as a short intro and primer for training workshop participants to help them set up an account
before
the training workshop.
http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/File:Creating_an_Account.pdf
It was designed by user:Bilby / Adam Jenkins especially for printing
as
a one page two-sided folded pamphlet.
-- John
On Oct 16, 2013 9:39 AM, "phoebe ayers" phoebe.wiki@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi all,
Does anyone have an example of a "here's how to get started" handout for brand-new editors at an editing workshop?
I'm thinking along the lines of a 1 page document... step 1, create
an
account; step 2, add a userpage, step 3, try a copyediting task...
etc.
I've found this guide... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/BeginnersGuide
But am wondering if there are any other examples, or anyone's made a printable/shorter version. I'm sure I've seen something like this,
but
can't find it!
Thanks, -- Phoebe
--
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phoebe.ayers
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